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04-06-2017, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By MojoTheMonkey⏩
is it really that crazy though? Trump spent a considerable amount of time over the past year talking about teaming up with a Russia to take out ISIS and how ISIS was the main enemy. I don't think it's totally unreasonable to think that Assad thought he had a green light to do whatever he wanted.Given that Assad had absolutely no motive and in fact had very good incentives not to do this, I'd like to hear some good reasons on why he would use gas on civilians. How exactly does doing the one thing that could lose him the war he goes and does?
Another crazy thought I had was that maybe Russia goaded Assad into using the chemical weapons to see how Trump administration would react.
With regard to likelihood of Assad being behind chemical weapons or not he's used chemical weapons in more ineffective ways in the form of chlorine attacks, AFTER he agreed to eliminate all chemical munitions, and this was confirmed by the UN in 2016.
Two things I'm aware of with regard to evidence:
1) The US knows when the Syria planes attacked and it matches the timing of the chemical attack.
2) Russia's immediate BS answer concerning attack was that bombs accidentally set off stored chemical munitions, but Sarin gas isn't normally stored in a way that it could be released in an accident because they mix the gas using separate components before releasing it. Apparently you mix it a few days before using it.
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04-06-2017, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted By humblebr4g⏩
Lib trolls grasping at strawsThis was the Trump most of us wanted
Trump even said right before the election that it was Hilary who wanted to get involved with Syria.
"That could very well lead to World War III"
This is not what we wanted. No more endless foreign wars
Trump even said right before the election that it was Hilary who wanted to get involved with Syria.
"That could very well lead to World War III"
This is not what we wanted. No more endless foreign wars

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04-06-2017, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted By rocker1⏩
That's because you're a chicken-hawk.I support Trump completely in this. Assad needs to go. The use of chemical weapon cannot be allowed to stand unchallenged.
04-06-2017, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted By TheFornicator1⏩
Well said.If he leaves the strike at this, then GG. If he continues to escalate, I'll begin losing my faith in Trump.
Around 500,000 already dead. Muslims have been murdering each other for 1,400 years - this is what they do.
If we fight a war in Syria, it will be a war on Europe's behalf, not America's, Australia's, or the UK'S (the three who will undoubtedly join).
Unleashing America's energy reserves and private enterprise means the nation should be less focused on post WWII geopolitical strategic goals.
Set up the safe zones and GTFO.
Around 500,000 already dead. Muslims have been murdering each other for 1,400 years - this is what they do.
If we fight a war in Syria, it will be a war on Europe's behalf, not America's, Australia's, or the UK'S (the three who will undoubtedly join).
Unleashing America's energy reserves and private enterprise means the nation should be less focused on post WWII geopolitical strategic goals.
Set up the safe zones and GTFO.
People are easily propagandized. A few videos showing some dead children, which yes it's terrible, of course it's terrible, and now suddenly we're bombing people seemingly without a plan. The civil war in Syria has been going on for years, I don't even know how many years offhand, many years. Who knows how many innocent civilians have been killed, likely hundreds of thousands. It's not good but it isn't our responsibility.
What is our plan? The Syrians are in a civil war. If we help one side the other side is going to hate us. We aren't going to kill one side and then everyone comes together and sings kumbaya around the campfire. That's nonsense.
The bottom line is that ISIS should be our priority and the Syrian regime, as far as I know, was fighting against ISIS. So why the heck are we fighting the Syrian regime now? Over some videos of dead civilians? Give me a break.
04-06-2017, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Qong⏩
To be fair, the use of weapons of mass destruction, is morally different than the use of conventional weapons, there is a reason for the outrage, there is a reason it shocks our conscience. it is objectively a morally worse act because when you use a chemical weapon you are no longer going after an enemy combatant but attacking civilians directly by intentionally targeting them. That's kind of a big deal.Well said.
People are easily propagandized. A few videos showing some dead children, which yes it's terrible, of course it's terrible,
People are easily propagandized. A few videos showing some dead children, which yes it's terrible, of course it's terrible,
and now suddenly we're bombing people seemingly without a plan. The civil war in Syria has been going on for years, I don't even know how many years offhand, many years. Who knows how many innocent civilians have been killed, likely hundreds of thousands. It's not good but it isn't our responsibility.
What is our plan? The Syrians are in a civil war. If we help one side the other side is going to hate us. We aren't going to kill one side and then everyone comes together and sings kumbaya around the campfire. That's nonsense.
The bottom line is that ISIS should be our priority and the Syrian regime, as far as I know, was fighting against ISIS. So why the heck are we fighting the Syrian regime now? Over some videos of dead civilians? Give me a break.
I perceive the use of chemical weapons by Assad to be slap in Trump's face. It made Trump look bad. That's part of the reason for Trump's response. I also think Trump felt a little responsible for the deaths because of all his talk about working with Russia (and therefore Assad).What is our plan? The Syrians are in a civil war. If we help one side the other side is going to hate us. We aren't going to kill one side and then everyone comes together and sings kumbaya around the campfire. That's nonsense.
The bottom line is that ISIS should be our priority and the Syrian regime, as far as I know, was fighting against ISIS. So why the heck are we fighting the Syrian regime now? Over some videos of dead civilians? Give me a break.
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04-06-2017, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
That makes as much sense as anything else honestly. I don't see how attacking the Syrian regime does anything beneficial for Americans.I perceive the use of chemical weapons by Assad to be slap in Trump's face. It made Trump look bad. That's part of the reason for Trump's response.
04-06-2017, 10:55 PM
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The war in Syria was planned for a long time. U.S. State Dept. cables show this as well as the Rand report.
This is a long war policy that has been taking place for basically decades.
It is about control of oil and gas pipelines and Russia and Iran have stabilized Syria to a point where they started to make a lot of energy deals with other countries and there have been concerns about oil prices dipping and you have also seen Saudi Arabia panicking in several regards by trying to curry favor with Malaysia, China, Indonesia because they are worried about oil prices dipping.
There have also been shifts in allegiances like Qatar switching allegiances to Russia and Qatar has HUGE gas reserves.
In the end, it is all about oil and gas and who has control of what.
If you noticed, after the airstrike, oil prices spiked. that wasn't a coincidence. Russia isn't signing any extensions with OPEC and people are pissed off about that.
This has nothing to do with gas attacks on civilians but that is just a smoke & mirrors reason to drop bombs to try to scare the **** out of Russia and Iran.
This is a long war policy that has been taking place for basically decades.
It is about control of oil and gas pipelines and Russia and Iran have stabilized Syria to a point where they started to make a lot of energy deals with other countries and there have been concerns about oil prices dipping and you have also seen Saudi Arabia panicking in several regards by trying to curry favor with Malaysia, China, Indonesia because they are worried about oil prices dipping.
There have also been shifts in allegiances like Qatar switching allegiances to Russia and Qatar has HUGE gas reserves.
In the end, it is all about oil and gas and who has control of what.
If you noticed, after the airstrike, oil prices spiked. that wasn't a coincidence. Russia isn't signing any extensions with OPEC and people are pissed off about that.
This has nothing to do with gas attacks on civilians but that is just a smoke & mirrors reason to drop bombs to try to scare the **** out of Russia and Iran.
04-06-2017, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted By JD805⏩
Keep copingTrump supporters aren't as brainwashed and it seems like they're slowly catching on and realizing trump's an idiot.
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04-07-2017, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
This. I guess it's time to start picking up globalism and abandoning the nationalism and the will of the people who elected you! YayyyDid anyone else notice Trump saying, "God bless the world", at the end of his speech justifying the attack?
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Imagine if we only had two missiles to worry about
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
What are your thoughts on cluster bombs?Is Trump actually human? Did he feel bad for children dying?
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Oh noes- who would pump billions into a war effort?Lol no.
Trump desperately wants to look strong. He campaigned on Make America Strong Again.He took billions of dollars away from non-military budgets and gave it to the military.
Trump desperately wants to look strong. He campaigned on Make America Strong Again.He took billions of dollars away from non-military budgets and gave it to the military.
Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Don't count on itAnd after eight years in hibernation, Democrats will suddenly become anti-war again....

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