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I wonder what it's like for all those right leaning/conservative posters reading this thread right now lulz.
Imagine trying to reconcile the fact that you are on the same page as known degen retards like wincel, Maestro, lightsarefallin, etc.,
"Well I definitely hate Leftism, and Liberalism is a mental disease, and feminism has definitely destroyed society, but Atheism? Well, I'M DEFINITELY on the same page as wincel on THAT one...."
Imagine the mental gymnastics they are employing right about now to cope LMAO.
Imagine trying to reconcile the fact that you are on the same page as known degen retards like wincel, Maestro, lightsarefallin, etc.,
"Well I definitely hate Leftism, and Liberalism is a mental disease, and feminism has definitely destroyed society, but Atheism? Well, I'M DEFINITELY on the same page as wincel on THAT one...."
Imagine the mental gymnastics they are employing right about now to cope LMAO.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I would not look to any one sect of Christianity or another (JW's are not Christians btw), only look to what God Himself stated. Yes, we are to repent, this is not only necessary to have a relationship with God, but it is also evidence of whether one is saved or not.I was raised a Jehovah's Witness for the first 10 or so years of my life. Afterwards, my parents still wanting me to learn the teachings of jesus forced me to go to my grandmothers baptist church and that isexactlywhat they believe. The preacher would say that you need to repent or else you would go to hell. He didn't mince words about it or speak in metaphors either, lol. Or are the Baptist teachings wrong?
However, there is only one unforgivable (as Jesus Himself stated)sin in which keeps a person out of heaven, and a Christian cannot lose their salvation, because it is impossible for a Christian to commit this sin..do you know what that sin is?
03-12-2023, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Name in VainI would not look to any one sect of Christianity or another (JW's are not Christians btw), only look to what God Himself stated. Yes, we are to repent, this is not only necessary to have a relationship with God, but it is also evidence of whether one is saved or not.
However, there is only one unforgivable sin in which keeps a person out of heaven, and a Christian cannot lose their salvation, because it is impossible for a Christian to commit this sin..do you know what that sin is?
However, there is only one unforgivable sin in which keeps a person out of heaven, and a Christian cannot lose their salvation, because it is impossible for a Christian to commit this sin..do you know what that sin is?
03-12-2023, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Some people teach works based salvation. The truth is clearly states in the bible and it says that salvation cannot be earned. It is a free gift from God and all you have to do is accept the free gift, regardless of what you've done. Ask the Lord for forgiveness and salvation and you are set for eternity.I was raised a Jehovah's Witness for the first 10 or so years of my life. Afterwards, my parents still wanting me to learn the teachings of jesus forced me to go to my grandmothers baptist church and that isexactlywhat they believe. The preacher would say that you need to repent or else you would go to hell. He didn't mince words about it or speak in metaphors either, lol. Or are the Baptist teachings wrong?
Romans 10:9-11 (KJV) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, thatwhosoever believeth in himshould not perish, but have everlasting life.
Acts 16:30-31 (KJV) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said,Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Anyone who teaches a works based salvation is a false prophet and will split hell wide open.
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Catholicism debunked
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=179267571
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
There would be certain consequences if they didn't. I respect it as a very improbable possibility. There is nothing to really hedge for. It's unlikely. Like we could be living in a false vacuum that decays and then suddenly all the particles that can exist change. But I don't think it's likely, and I also can't do anything to change that. On the other hand, all our evidence indicates we ought to expect these "laws" will still hold tomorrow.I've never seen someone further from put together, but sure, you don't need any wisdom from popular sources everyone else uses.
Do you have faith the same laws of physics you use today will work tomorrow? How much do you hedge yourself that this will change tomorrow?
Do you have faith the same laws of physics you use today will work tomorrow? How much do you hedge yourself that this will change tomorrow?
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
On the other hand, the other side has people like you and Paul. Choose your poison. And please drink it.I wonder what it's like for all those right leaning/conservative posters reading this thread right now lulz.
Imagine trying to reconcile the fact that you are on the same page as known degen retards like wincel, Maestro, lightsarefallin, etc.,
"Well I definitely hate Leftism, and Liberalism is a mental disease, and feminism has definitely destroyed society, but Atheism? Well, I'M DEFINITELY on the same page as wincel on THAT one...."
Imagine the mental gymnastics they are employing right about now to cope LMAO.
Imagine trying to reconcile the fact that you are on the same page as known degen retards like wincel, Maestro, lightsarefallin, etc.,
"Well I definitely hate Leftism, and Liberalism is a mental disease, and feminism has definitely destroyed society, but Atheism? Well, I'M DEFINITELY on the same page as wincel on THAT one...."
Imagine the mental gymnastics they are employing right about now to cope LMAO.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
In a way. It is The rejection of The Holy Spirit.Name in Vain
"I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come” (Mt. 12:31-32).
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A Christian cannot blasphemy against the Spirit, because in order to be a Christian one must be born again..of the Spirit.
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"Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born who is old? Can he enter into his mother’s womb again, and be born?”
Jesus answered, “Truly, truly I say to you, unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
“That which is born of the flesh, is flesh. And that which is born of the Spirit, is spirit.
“Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’
“The wind blows where it will, and you hear the sound thereof, but cannot tell from where it comes, and where it goes. So is every man who is born of the Spirit.”
Nicodemus answered, and said to Him, “How can these things be?”
Jesus answered, and said to him, “Are you a teacher of Israel, and know not these things?
“Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak that we know, and testify that we have seen. But you do not receive our witness.
“If when I tell you earthly things you do not believe, how shall you believe if I tell you of Heavenly things?
“For no one ascends up to Heaven, except He who descended from Heaven – the Son of Man, who is in Heaven.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
“that whoever believes in Him, should not perish, but have eternal life.
“For God so loves the world, that He has given His only begotten Son; that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
03-12-2023, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
99% of men and women all throughout history will gladly choose myself and Paul over a dysgenic and genetic defect like you. Guaranteed.On the other hand, the other side has people like you and Paul. Choose your poison. And please drink it.
Never mind the country or civilization, you are a net negative on your own family.
03-12-2023, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
It's pretty obvious. Don't know about you, but out of Wincel and myself, I am the only one that owns my own home (2 of them), has a successful business, and married to a gorgeous successful woman..while he literally lives with his parents and is a virgin. srs99% of men and women all throughout history will gladly choose myself and Paul over a dysgenic and genetic defect like you. Guaranteed.
Never mind the country or civilization, you are a net negative on your own family.
Never mind the country or civilization, you are a net negative on your own family.
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
lmao a jesus freak evangelical nutjob and a neonazi?99% of men and women all throughout history will gladly choose myself and Paul over a dysgenic and genetic defect like you. Guaranteed.
Never mind the country or civilization, you are a net negative on your own family.
Never mind the country or civilization, you are a net negative on your own family.
not sure about that one buddy
03-12-2023, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
post a pic of your gf then..lmao a jesus freak evangelical nutjob and a neonazi?
not sure about that one buddy
not sure about that one buddy
oh wait..you never had one
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Originally Posted By Paul
So is having a gf an indication of being "alpha"? So are we again back to ****** and his 8 kids being genetically superior? Also, I guess I won the discussion back when I showed your version of God violates special relativity so now the argument is "I got laid. I have money. I am better than you."post a pic of your gf then..
oh wait..you never had one
oh wait..you never had one
Pretty low IQ tbh.
And I'm still waiting on literally any evidence that God exists and also a definition for said God and a proof of uniqueness.
As of now, virtually every comment ITT is void of meaning because we don't even really have a definition for "God". People mean very different things when they mention it. Actually for most of you, it's just an identity signaling thing. After all, none of you actually know any gods exist. It's just signaling. You're just chauvinists putting on a show. It gives you that oxytocin hit.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
No, the answer is both need to humble themselves and let the right spirit attract them. Not to bring god to them but them to god.I'm saying there is no consistent way for God to define who prayed first. It actually can't be defined globally. It's an excellent argument. It destroys the idea of there being a global reference frame. There is no absolute timeline for the entire universe. That breaks a LOT. You haven't dismantled anything. God can't tell "who prayed first" because defining such a thing objectively globally is mathematically impossible.
But then that means God can't consistently respond to prayers or intervene unless there is no free will, but that contradicts your religion. RIP.
But then that means God can't consistently respond to prayers or intervene unless there is no free will, but that contradicts your religion. RIP.
Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Pascal was a mathematician.There would be certain consequences if they didn't. I respect it as a very improbable possibility. There is nothing to really hedge for. It's unlikely. Like we could be living in a false vacuum that decays and then suddenly all the particles that can exist change. But I don't think it's likely, and I also can't do anything to change that. On the other hand, all our evidence indicates we ought to expect these "laws" will still hold tomorrow.
His famous wager is criticized a lot. Think of it applying during your lifetime.
Living with common sense will lead you to a better life if you don't die before the fruits come in a day, week, or however long. If you survive and did not made wise decisions, you're headed for a bad experience.
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
That has zero to do with the point being made lol.No, the answer is both need to humble themselves and let the right spirit attract them. Not to bring god to them but them to god.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
both compliments. Remember, women will fukk nazis and religious Chads all day as proven by history and reality.lmao a jesus freak evangelical nutjob and a neonazi?
not sure about that one buddy
not sure about that one buddy
Whereas when I call you a dysgenic genetic failure, you know in your heart of heart it's true. You literally will not pass on your genes, whereas I have.
In scientific terms, I'm the winner and will carry on nazism and fanatical religious behavior through my genes, and yours will end.
Nature and Science has deemed me the winner and you the failure. Even Science, your god, has deemed me worthy to continue.
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
"heart of heart" is redundant or a misuse of the expression "heart of hearts".both compliments. Remember, women will fukk nazis and religious Chads all day as proven by history and reality.
Whereas when I call you a dysgenic genetic failure, you know in your heart of heart it's true. You literally will not pass on your genes, whereas I have.
In scientific terms, I'm the winner and will carry on nazism and fanatical religious behavior through my genes, and yours will end.
Nature and Science has deemed me the winner and you the failure. Even Science, your god, has deemed me worthy to continue.
Whereas when I call you a dysgenic genetic failure, you know in your heart of heart it's true. You literally will not pass on your genes, whereas I have.
In scientific terms, I'm the winner and will carry on nazism and fanatical religious behavior through my genes, and yours will end.
Nature and Science has deemed me the winner and you the failure. Even Science, your god, has deemed me worthy to continue.
IDK bro. You can't even type properly. I'm not impressed.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Thought it was marriage or nothing in your belief?post a pic of your gf then..
oh wait..you never had one
oh wait..you never had one
Also just lol at how this thread went
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Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
"heh, I see you've made an excellent point, and since I have no comeback, I'll instead *adjusts glasses* focus on grammar and spelling. Heh, checkmate""heart of heart" is redundant or a misuse of the expression "heart of hearts".
IDK bro. You can't even type properly. I'm not impressed.
IDK bro. You can't even type properly. I'm not impressed.
How does it feel that I'll continue to carry my genes on to make even more "misuse of expressions" while your line ends? lulz.
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I think we are hard wired for religion, of one sore of another. I thought author Michael Critchon had a nice write up this ~
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/micha...is-a-religion/
Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for urban atheists. Why do I say it’s a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths. There’s an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there’s a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe.
Eden, the fall of man, the loss of grace, the coming doomsday—these are deeply held mythic structures. They are profoundly conservative beliefs. They may even be hard-wired in the brain, for all I know. I certainly don’t want to talk anybody out of them, as I don’t want to talk anybody out of a belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who rose from the dead. But the reason I don’t want to talk anybody out of these beliefs is that I know that I can’t talk anybody out of them. These are not facts that can be argued. These are issues of faith.
And so it is, sadly, with environmentalism. Increasingly it seems facts aren’t necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It’s about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved. Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them. Am I exaggerating to make a point? I am afraid not. Because we know a lot more about the world than we did forty or fifty years ago. And what we know now is not so supportive of certain core environmental myths, yet the myths do not die.
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/micha...is-a-religion/
Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for urban atheists. Why do I say it’s a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths. There’s an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there’s a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe.
Eden, the fall of man, the loss of grace, the coming doomsday—these are deeply held mythic structures. They are profoundly conservative beliefs. They may even be hard-wired in the brain, for all I know. I certainly don’t want to talk anybody out of them, as I don’t want to talk anybody out of a belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who rose from the dead. But the reason I don’t want to talk anybody out of these beliefs is that I know that I can’t talk anybody out of them. These are not facts that can be argued. These are issues of faith.
And so it is, sadly, with environmentalism. Increasingly it seems facts aren’t necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It’s about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved. Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them. Am I exaggerating to make a point? I am afraid not. Because we know a lot more about the world than we did forty or fifty years ago. And what we know now is not so supportive of certain core environmental myths, yet the myths do not die.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Real life is bigger than you.Religion is for delusional people who are not connected to real life .
If you got away with cheating someone, it does not mean you're on the right track or that it will not add up against you, corrupt your relationships with others, etc.
This is the common disagreement that amounts to the way most non-christians end up warring for what they do not deserve and suffer from being violent criminals.
Like stealing some land and then crowing that everyone coming to fight you after is not agreeing with your "real life" right to it when literally everyone can see you cheated and hates you for it.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It's obvious God exists. Abiogenesis is a mathematical impossibility, and you have no proof of Darwinian evolution..still waiting for you to post your missing link example.So is having a gf an indication of being "alpha"? So are we again back to ****** and his 8 kids being genetically superior? Also, I guess I won the discussion back when I showed your version of God violates special relativity so now the argument is "I got laid. I have money. I am better than you."
Pretty low IQ tbh.
And I'm still waiting on literally any evidence that God exists and also a definition for said God and a proof of uniqueness.
As of now, virtually every comment ITT is void of meaning because we don't even really have a definition for "God". People mean very different things when they mention it. Actually for most of you, it's just an identity signaling thing. After all, none of you actually know any gods exist. It's just signaling. You're just chauvinists putting on a show. It gives you that oxytocin hit.
Pretty low IQ tbh.
And I'm still waiting on literally any evidence that God exists and also a definition for said God and a proof of uniqueness.
As of now, virtually every comment ITT is void of meaning because we don't even really have a definition for "God". People mean very different things when they mention it. Actually for most of you, it's just an identity signaling thing. After all, none of you actually know any gods exist. It's just signaling. You're just chauvinists putting on a show. It gives you that oxytocin hit.
Want proof that the Abrahamic God is the True God..sure, you only need to look at the Jews for your proof.
Also that entire post was quite the deflection of you admitting that you have never been laid or had a GF. You claimed women would rather pick you than me or Condor..so give us proof of that. Post a pic of your GF..
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
The point is the harmony of the world would not lead to a race condition, and they would have to take a different answer.That has zero to do with the point being made lol.
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
I frankly don't believe you have a kid tbh. If you do, I don't see you being a good influence. Your kid will probably end up dead or in jail. Either way, there are a lot of garbage people out there. You're one of them. Can't be rid of them all."heh, I see you've made an excellent point, and since I have no comeback, I'll instead *adjusts glasses* focus on grammar and spelling. Heh, checkmate"
How does it feel that I'll continue to carry my genes on to make even more "misuse of expressions" while your line ends? lulz.
How does it feel that I'll continue to carry my genes on to make even more "misuse of expressions" while your line ends? lulz.
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
It has nothing to do with the prayer. My point is about how God would observe time for the universe.The point is the harmony of the world would not lead to a race condition, and they would have to take a different answer.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
A Chad whose gene will pass on need not concern himself with whether a genetic fukk up like you believes him or not.I frankly don't believe you have a kid tbh. If you do, I don't see you being a good influence. Your kid will probably end up dead or in jail.
My kids will be religious, Chad, prosperous, but most importantly, they will carry on the gene that predisposes them to bullying absolutely dysgenic losers like you, just like how their father did.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
you cannot have time without space and matter.Matter, space, and time must come into existence together: if you had matter but no space, where would you put it; if you had matter but no time, when would you put it?It has nothing to do with the prayer. My point is about how God would observe time for the universe.
Gen 1:1 demonstrates God bringing all into existence at once.
Do better you fukin retard
03-12-2023, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
That's one of those vague claims. I said I wanted 7 sigma evidence with mathematical models. Not "look at the jews".It's obvious God exists. Abiogenesis is a mathematical impossibility, and you have no proof of Darwinian evolution..still waiting for you to post your missing link example.
Want proof that the Abrahamic God is the True God..sure, you only need to look at the Jews for your proof.
Also that entire post was quite the deflection of you admitting that you have never been laid or had a GF. You claimed women would rather pick you than me or Condor..so give us proof of that. Post a pic of your GF..
Want proof that the Abrahamic God is the True God..sure, you only need to look at the Jews for your proof.
Also that entire post was quite the deflection of you admitting that you have never been laid or had a GF. You claimed women would rather pick you than me or Condor..so give us proof of that. Post a pic of your GF..
I wasn't talking about women. He asked who would you rather agree with to others ITT. It's, of course, a veiled ad hominem lol. And you just proposed some nonsequiturs. I'm asking for a rigorous definition of God and concrete evidence of existence and uniqueness. I've also presented some arguments for why the Abrahamic god violates special relativity. So the deck is pretty stacked here. Good luck. So far, no one has produced anything. Instead, we just see fallacy after fallacy.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Again..the Jews as evidence for the specific Abrahamic God.That's one of those vague claims. I said I wanted 7 sigma evidence with mathematical models. Not "look at the jews".
I wasn't talking about women. He asked who would you rather agree with to others ITT. It's, of course, a veiled ad hominem lol. And you just proposed some nonsequiturs. I'm asking for a rigorous definition of God and concrete evidence of existence and uniqueness. I've also presented some arguments for why the Abrahamic god violates special relativity. So the deck is pretty stacked here. Good luck. So far, no one has produced anything. Instead, we just see fallacy after fallacy.
I wasn't talking about women. He asked who would you rather agree with to others ITT. It's, of course, a veiled ad hominem lol. And you just proposed some nonsequiturs. I'm asking for a rigorous definition of God and concrete evidence of existence and uniqueness. I've also presented some arguments for why the Abrahamic god violates special relativity. So the deck is pretty stacked here. Good luck. So far, no one has produced anything. Instead, we just see fallacy after fallacy.
And again, abiogenesis violates physics and relativity. Once again, tou cannot have time without space and matter.
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Originally Posted By Paul
That has nothing to do with what I said. And also there was no matter in the early universe. So you're wrong.you cannot have time without space and matter.Matter, space, and time must come into existence together: if you had matter but no space, where would you put it; if you had matter but no time, when would you put it?
Gen 1:1 demonstrates God bringing all into existence at once.
Do better you fukin retard
Gen 1:1 demonstrates God bringing all into existence at once.
Do better you fukin retard
03-12-2023, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Abiogenesis has nothing to do with what I said.Again..the Jews as evidence for the specific Abrahamic God.
And again, abiogenesis violates physics and relativity. Once again, tou cannot have time without space and matter.
And again, abiogenesis violates physics and relativity. Once again, tou cannot have time without space and matter.
Using the word jews is not a mathematical model and 7 sigma empirical evidence.
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