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**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION
05-04-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
PovertyI don't trust any regional banks.
Someone has bad intentions.
PACW for example has share float 120 million
volume traded last few days is touching 70-80 million
this stock average daily volume used to be close to 1 million.
option volume traded daily 200-300K
option volume average traded daily 500-2000 (not error) this thing had no liquidity at all.
Someone has bad intentions.
PACW for example has share float 120 million
volume traded last few days is touching 70-80 million
this stock average daily volume used to be close to 1 million.
option volume traded daily 200-300K
option volume average traded daily 500-2000 (not error) this thing had no liquidity at all.
I won't touch banks, retail (besides AMZN), restaurants, or airlines
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05-04-2023, 11:33 AM
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Bank of Canada governor saying they’re ready to hike rates further — after already being paused for a bit now — if inflation remains sticky above the 2% target
https://financialpost.com/news/econo...04aa08c85/amp/
https://financialpost.com/news/econo...04aa08c85/amp/
05-04-2023, 11:53 AM
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If you bought the dip (three hours ago) on WAL and sold right now you’d have doubled your money, these bank stonks are insane
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05-04-2023, 11:53 AM
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05-04-2023, 12:09 PM
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okay so news headline popped up
"US Fed/State Officials are assessing possible market manipulation in regards to regional banking share drop"
this whole thing smelled like inverse GME
knew something didn't make sense.
some of these banks simply did not have the phucking volume/liquidity to trade they way they have been doing last few days.
let me give you simple example.
say today you wake up and say give me 50,000 PACW $2 puts .
the person on other side of that trade market maker / dealer / bank etc has to get human to review that trade - risk officer etc you can't just get filled on that kind of order
its possible someone was going oh sure have all the puts you want.
"US Fed/State Officials are assessing possible market manipulation in regards to regional banking share drop"
this whole thing smelled like inverse GME
knew something didn't make sense.
some of these banks simply did not have the phucking volume/liquidity to trade they way they have been doing last few days.
let me give you simple example.
say today you wake up and say give me 50,000 PACW $2 puts .
the person on other side of that trade market maker / dealer / bank etc has to get human to review that trade - risk officer etc you can't just get filled on that kind of order
its possible someone was going oh sure have all the puts you want.
05-04-2023, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
So what your saying is there’s a chance?!okay so news headline popped up
"US Fed/State Officials are assessing possible market manipulation in regards to regional banking share drop"
this whole thing smelled like inverse GME
knew something didn't make sense.
some of these banks simply did not have the phucking volume/liquidity to trade they way they have been doing last few days.
let me give you simple example.
say today you wake up and say give me 50,000 PACW $2 puts .
the person on other side of that trade market maker / dealer / bank etc has to get human to review that trade - risk officer etc you can't just get filled on that kind of order
its possible someone was going oh sure have all the puts you want.
"US Fed/State Officials are assessing possible market manipulation in regards to regional banking share drop"
this whole thing smelled like inverse GME
knew something didn't make sense.
some of these banks simply did not have the phucking volume/liquidity to trade they way they have been doing last few days.
let me give you simple example.
say today you wake up and say give me 50,000 PACW $2 puts .
the person on other side of that trade market maker / dealer / bank etc has to get human to review that trade - risk officer etc you can't just get filled on that kind of order
its possible someone was going oh sure have all the puts you want.

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05-04-2023, 12:23 PM
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I don't like the word "assessing" lol
Give it time till more details comes out.
Give it time till more details comes out.
05-04-2023, 12:26 PM
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05-04-2023, 12:42 PM
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last time I checked PLTR still at $7.
market wont crash because everyone realized you can buy puts and short sell to get move they want.
ban short selling on regional banks due to threat of bank runs and this problem is solved.
SP 500 is still at 4000+
being held up by "AI"
market wont crash because everyone realized you can buy puts and short sell to get move they want.
ban short selling on regional banks due to threat of bank runs and this problem is solved.
SP 500 is still at 4000+
being held up by "AI"
05-04-2023, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I’m trying to decide how much I wanna risk right now. I’m back to 200 shares with a cost basis around $6 so basically all profit from my trades are sitting in shares. I might add back to 400 shares if I can get them below $5. Otherwise I’ll ride it out double or nothing. Hopefully it trades a wide spread AH again and I’ll just keep flipping between $5 and $6.5I don't like the word "assessing" lol
Give it time till more details comes out.
Give it time till more details comes out.
I’m glad I got the bond position I wanted before this happened. Yields are dumping pretty hard.
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05-04-2023, 01:00 PM
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got to get back to work.
not sure.
check news.
full article is probably out what was going on all that bizzare shorting on regional banks last few days.
not sure.
check news.
full article is probably out what was going on all that bizzare shorting on regional banks last few days.
05-04-2023, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
I don’t get why their shares are getting hammered they are big enough I think they are safe.Anyone else use Schwab for a broker? I got a notice today stating that from now on your open orders will count against your cash balance.
I figured it always did.
Stock price is down bigly, too.
Any bank analysts in the house?
I figured it always did.
Stock price is down bigly, too.
Any bank analysts in the house?
Pacw I panic sold at like $6.20
I might check out WAL tonight and buy tomorrow premarket. I think they are better positioned and they have been getting clobbered just as bad as pacw in
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05-04-2023, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I did some digging and saw their commercial real estate exposure. I honestly think they’ll be ok, but still bounced regardless. I think the real panic sell will be Friday since no one wants to hold these banks over the weekend LMAOlmao, this term reminds me of my early trading days
2020/2021 was WILD
2020/2021 was WILD
INB4 they go under tonight because I’ve nailed this trade every time the last 36 hours.
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05-05-2023, 05:10 AM
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I sm tired of this matket-everything is stagnant.
05-05-2023, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
It’s excellent for those of us who are net buyers of stocks.I sm tired of this matket-everything is stagnant.
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05-05-2023, 09:38 AM
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There is some rumors going around SEC announcement today about short selling fraud on regional banks.
Don't look at PACW stock price.
Halting on the way up on that rumor.
Is it legit who knows.
Also
well done Rob.
Don't look at PACW stock price.
Halting on the way up on that rumor.
Is it legit who knows.
Also
well done Rob.
05-05-2023, 10:03 AM
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Jobs report is strong as fuk. Legit everything about it is strong and speaks to further inflation down the road. Ruh roh.
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05-05-2023, 10:10 AM
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05-05-2023, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Yah I posted about this on the main. Something fishy going on here. Don't think it is a conspiracy. Think it is --> job reports are done by regulators who are ultimately politically motivated to find that jobs are strong. Ironic that it will ultimately result in tighter and harder conditions because Jpow's biggest thing the other day was the "tight" job market, so they just going to keep pushing up rates.Jobs report is strong as fuk. Legit everything about it is strong and speaks to further inflation down the road. Ruh roh.
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05-05-2023, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
What do you see indicating that? Bond yields are dropping on 5/10 years.Rate expectations for the rest of the year appear to be moving up again as a result
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05-05-2023, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Day over Day changes for rate expectations at each meeting in the CME FedWatch Tool, granted the expectation for more hikes has gone down from a week ago but the expectation for cuts has as wellWhat do you see indicating that? Bond yields are dropping on 5/10 years.
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/int...atch-tool.html
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What a fkin day, trimmed more MSFT NVDA AAPL
@ Leftical: Your unrealized gain for today must be insane
@ Leftical: Your unrealized gain for today must be insane
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05-05-2023, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
It's been an absolutely fantastic day today. Feels like I'm swimming in money.What a fkin day, trimmed more MSFT NVDA AAPL
@ Leftical: Your unrealized gain for today must be insane
@ Leftical: Your unrealized gain for today must be insane
Totally prepared to lose all gainz next week lmfao
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05-05-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
Gonna be an odd weekend if no banks fail. Perhaps the fed and JPM will actually get a weekend off lmao.It's been an absolutely fantastic day today. Feels like I'm swimming in money.
Totally prepared to lose all gainz next week lmfao
Totally prepared to lose all gainz next week lmfao
Quick someone drive by their HQ and see if the lights are still on tonight.
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05-06-2023, 12:16 PM
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05-07-2023, 02:16 PM
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Just discovered PFF which is a fund holding preferred shares yielding 6.4%. Pretty stout and primarily utilities, major banks, and industrials.
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05-08-2023, 11:01 AM
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Anyone know if this "Fed senior loan survey" is a major report?
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05-08-2023, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Might snag a put debit spreadAnyone have thoughts on AFRM earnings tomorrow? Just going off the recent move it has gone up like 25% the past couple days on no news. Either someone knows something or this is being set up for a rugpull.
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05-08-2023, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
I think it's what they use to determine how much lending is happening and would feed into how much of their job is being done through the banking industry issues leading to increased credit tightness that should assumedly help rein in inflation to some unknown degreeAnyone know if this "Fed senior loan survey" is a major report?
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