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ยป Girl wants me to smash her and her chubby friend. Should I? [Pics]
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post 1552268531 05-24-2018, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Appreciate the response - not calling you out on frauding or anything, but I still don't understand, how do you physically escalate if you're too nervous to talk to a girl? Is it after you've had a few drinks?

I guess I ask because you sound just like me, except I have trouble physically escalating.

Do you shiver during your business deals?
I remember going over this with you in the tinder threads. You have to have positive visualization. You have to see yourself as a sexy mofo that no woman can resist so they'd be stupid to not reciprocate and you'd be stupid to not initiate. Then you have to see yourself closing the deal. You have to invision grabbing her to kiss her, the taste of the perfume on her neck, and the wetness of her pussy when you touch it. Vislualize you succeeding prior to meeting and think through all the steps you need to take in order to close.

That's true with women and true with sales. If you don't have a positive outlook you wont have a positive outcome. You will talk yourself out of it. Its like rule #1 in sales - always ask for the order. You have her engaged now initiate.

And yes I get nervous. It comes from hesitation. I don't shake I just don't speak with conviction and think myself into a dark hole without taking action. Liquor definitely helps ease tension (not during work though lol). Also try L-theinine/caffeine stack. Use as temporary crutch. The end all be all solution is you.
Originally Posted By shmobin
Ah got ya. So that was like plan C that you finally connected with.
Kind of. My plan A's were 7-8/10's that didn't want to meet because I wasnt local. Plan B's were pretty much all the rest, 5-6/10's. The duo was like a B+ for the experience/story.

Here's the part of the story I left out where the Latina tried to back out and was being flaky. That's when I thought she might not show up so started to consider other options (blonde was one but there were a few others)...







If for nothing else this shows how to overcome objections without sounding too interested/needy. Then again I could have been her plan B and she rengaged after her plan A flaked. You never know. Which is why its always best to make it look like you have options so they think they would be the one missing out, not the other way around. Girls get high on attention but loose interest if there's too much (they feel a mismatch). Also remember this girl said "im not the hookup type" lol, yeah sure, that's why you were willing to meet an out of towner at his hotel.
post 1552296391 05-25-2018, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted By spadelexus
Good question. Here's why. When a girl commits to a tinder date there's already expressed or implied sexual attraction. She swiped me. She gave me her number. She agreed to meet. And she even went 2 steps forward by telling me "Im very good looking" and asked "how many girls am I juggling". All I have to do now is show up and not be an awkward beta *******. Its not 100%, but still a 90% close rate with girls girls 6/10 or below. On the 7+/10's my close rate is worse. Partially because I get nervous around more attractive females, and partially because if they just wanted sex they could be going out with better looking guys... so my strategy changes to try for sex on date 1 but position sex on date 2, and date 2 is never guaranteed.

My close rate on business deals is much worse. Id be a millionare if closed 90% of my deals. But its my full time job and I have to kill what I eat so I stack my pipeline and hustle to get volume. If I worked 10+hrs/day on getting on 8+/10's in bed Id be banging alot of 8+/10's.

Also what Ive learned about anxiety in business is you have to fake it till you make it. Dont let them see you are sweating. And to over come the anxiety you have to do the things you fear or the fear will kill you.

Ive applied much of that logic to tinder and girls in general but still have problems approaching 7+/10's cold, without tinder. Think of tinder as a warm lead. They've already expressed interest by clicking a call to action.




The pics line up brah. You didn't follow correctly/misunderstood something along the way.
I 100% agree about business. Great analogy. I don't agree with you all the time but this answer is pure gold.

In business you take a deep breath, realize you're an authority and get it done. The difference is, in business, they're not reject you per se, they're rejecting the offer you're making to them. In dating, you're the one being personally rejected. So the more you can apply a sales/business approach to dating the more confident you will be and have less anxiety.
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