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post 1637832193 05-05-2021, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Lol

Aren't you the guy that's down on red days AND green days lol

I'm just shocked that so many people have no fukin idea what to do when it comes to investing, do you guys just buy first and then learn later?
Everybody is a genius now


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ah you're right

just looked at that Tesla $360C leap...delta is 0.9 right inline for someone to sell covered calls.

atm $660 seems to be the floor for tesla.



hmmm

why would RKT be halted.

its been doing nothing.
post 1637832643 05-05-2021, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
didn't buy any of that
QUOTE=Lefticle;1637820873]Just bought $10k worth of:

ATER
CCIV
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OPEN
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U wot m8? Here's the proof brother
post 1637832923 05-05-2021, 12:01 PM
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to anyone who is green today, good job. srs
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post 1637833313 05-05-2021, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
to anyone who is green today, good job. srs
I am green because of oil. But greedy savages are taking profits like crazy. I might close red.
post 1637833383 05-05-2021, 12:06 PM
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I’m down so much on Affirm

It just keeps dropping
post 1637833743 05-05-2021, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
I’m down so much on Affirm

It just keeps dropping
Are your SU calls doing any better? Sucks they didn’t reinstate full dividends but saw some great debt repayment and $300m in buybacks

Give it a couple more quarters
post 1637833893 05-05-2021, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
I’m down so much on Affirm

It just keeps dropping
You are bag holding? Longterm?
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Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
that sounds like a pump and dump lol we are too "high" in tech let's "rotate' to a different sector

market crashes and you still need microchips, semi conductors, energy (I am just betting on upcoming tech - I get this one), etc.

no hate calling u smartazz - i like to hear other people's point of view
Remember January/Feb where tech sold off AMD touched $100 etc.

They took those profits and parked it elsewhere.

They are balancing billions of dollars / have way more professionals and information on their disposal than we will ever have.

Like ask yourself why does Apple / Amazon sell off on the best quarters ever in history?

Also like I said above, looking at STLD / FCX / JPM charts like buying now seems stupid when its on way up. Could be peak right now.
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
I’m down so much on Affirm

It just keeps dropping
stock or options? how much
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post 1637834493 05-05-2021, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Remember January/Feb where tech sold off AMD touched $100 etc.

They took those profits and parked it elsewhere.

They are balancing billions of dollars / have way more professionals and information on their disposal than we will ever have.

Like ask yourself why does Apple / Amazon sell off on the best quarters ever in history?

Also like I said above, looking at STLD / FCX / JPM charts like buying now seems stupid when its on way up. Could be peak right now.
i dont get the tech selloff post earnings, personally

i thought everyone was waiting for earnings to see if the stocks 'justified' their lofty prices, and agreed, they are lofty

but the earnings were fukking amazing lol. they beat everyone's expectations, which were already high. so imo, they totally justified their price
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post 1637834533 05-05-2021, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
to anyone who is green today, good job. srs
I am green cause ETH and AAL
"Paper money is going away" - EM
post 1637834643 05-05-2021, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
stock or options? how much
I don’t even want to look

I’m 100 share deep at $100 so these $4200 down
3x March 55c Itm I think I am down like 8k on those

Suncor SU is doing better I think I am only down 12k or so rather than 19k


I’m not logging in for awhile I don’t want to see the damage
post 1637836403 05-05-2021, 12:38 PM
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PRPO suddenly turned green. I'll take it
post 1637836453 05-05-2021, 12:38 PM
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just doing my monthly pop in to say AAPL sucks D!CK
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post 1637836603 05-05-2021, 12:39 PM
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Everything is fine. I’m a long term investor on all my positions now.
post 1637836753 05-05-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
There is too much market manipulation right now to be buying in at the top. I bought a stock a few days ago that was down from $60 to $38 as a safe play, and it continued to dip. Every other day we see massive red. All I was saying was to wait until you see a discount and then buy in, slowly.
Please don't confuse stock picking with the market as a whole. For the month of April the market appreciated in value by around 3%, or an increase of $1500 had someone hypothetically put in $50,000 near the beginning of the month and invested in a low cost market fund. There tends to be a lot of sensationalism in this thread that I think rubs off on newer folks, thethis time its differentvibe.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Essentially, buy low, sell high. Nothing wrong with that advice IMO. $50,000 is a significant amount of money, and with all this talk about rising interest rates and sector rotations as we reopen, putting it all into the market right now when capital gains taxes are potentially increasing and consumer spending is also increasing as we reopen resulting in people taking their money out of the market, it's a scary time to dump in your entire life savings in one go. Just advising him to play it smart, as this market isn't typical, there's a lot of fukkery going on.

I had nearly $70k a few months ago and that got quickly cut in half once the market started going sideways, so that's where my advice comes from. My holdings were also pretty safe. Would hate to see someone drop $50k in the market then two weeks later they lose half of it, because they were impatient.
The individual should have the equivalent of an IPS which defines their general investment guidelines such as risk tolerance. If someone has significant earning years ahead of them then temporary losses in net value should be nothing more than inconsequential noise over a 20-40 year investment window. Furthermore, if the money gets placed in a low cost index fund that tracks the market (e.g. VT/VTI) then it would take an unprecedented event for their investment to lose half of its value in such a short time. As I said in my last post, if someone is truly worried about this type of thing happening then DCA is a perfectly reasonable approach assuming it is automated / scheduled in advance while knowing that, statistically speaking, it is likely to result in an overall higher buy in cost.
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post 1637836893 05-05-2021, 12:42 PM
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Independent gig worker rule rescinded buy Biden. Uber and Lyft dumped. Could dump more as it will destroy their business model.

Pton down 20% for some kid killing himself and recall. Might be good long call but those are like $1500 per contract.

COIN going to have earnings soon which will probably blow out expectations. Could be a good move to pick up at this price just to sell after earnings.
post 1637837083 05-05-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
to anyone who is green today, good job. srs
i am bright green today, near new ath, most of my holdings are oil, pipelines and telecom
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post 1637837173 05-05-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I have no thoughts who the phuck knows why someone decides to buy that deep ITM leaps.

There is no put buy for that date if they were doing spread so who knows.



Don't be mean.

Most investors here gained big last year from growth / tech stocks. Its hard to move away from what worked before. You might look like genius now with oil but how sure are you that is what holds by end of year.

If you want help offer suggestions whats working for you do it.
I offer genuine suggestions but sometimes I sht post, I'm a mixed bag homie lol, gotta take the good with the bad.

I'll alter the ratio to the genuine advice side for now.

I don't have much to offer right now though lol.
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post 1637837643 05-05-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10⏩
i dont get the tech selloff post earnings, personally

i thought everyone was waiting for earnings to see if the stocks 'justified' their lofty prices, and agreed, they are lofty

but the earnings were fukking amazing lol. they beat everyone's expectations, which were already high. so imo, they totally justified their price
What we personally think means nothing, you want to be parked in where market is going not what you believe in other wise you will end up bag holding.

This year taught me that I don't know as much I thought. Last year was easy mode. It sure looks like it ain't anymore. Winners are still out there but its not easy to find them.

Once I have to go to cubical to slave away 9-5 July.

Just gonna stick with index funds and add few stocks long term monthly if they look good.
post 1637838513 05-05-2021, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
What we personally think means nothing, you want to be parked in where market is going not what you believe in other wise you will end up bag holding.

This year taught me that I don't know as much I thought. Last year was easy mode. It sure looks like it ain't anymore. Winners are still out there but its not easy to find them.

Once I have to go to cubical to slave away 9-5 July.

Just gonna stick with index funds and add few stocks long term monthly if they look good.
This is largely what my Etrade looks like. I have the vast majority of it in SPY, VTSAX and TRBCX and then I have some individual stocks. Largest positions are AAPL, AAL & XOM with a few others sprinkled in at much lower amounts.

Then my 401k is all funds (mostly FXAIX & FCNCX with some small cap, mid cap and bonds . . . I had moved some away from bonds earlier in the year).
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Anyone in VIAC? Thought on tomorrow's earnings? They're scheduled to announce before the morning bell, so is this a sign the numbers are better than expected or that they don't GAF what happens when trading resumes?

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if i didn't have money tied up in particular stocks, i'd have just waited for the imminent crash and dumped it all in an index

i mean holy sh*t, every day is just more damage right now.

its literally at the stage where im happy when my red gets less. thats a place i truly never thought id be at
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post 1637840773 05-05-2021, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By lntense⏩
Everything is fine. I’m a long term investor on all my positions now.
I like your new mantra.
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Vaccine makers just drove off cliff lmao

Biden backing WTO Waiver For Vaccine Intellectual Property.

phuck them they should. they are trying hard to continue profiting off covid vaccines

already got billions in tax money to make vaccine.

all of them said they want booster shots yearly.

MRNA was nobody before covid.
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Vaccine makers just drove off cliff lmao

Biden backing WTO Waiver For Vaccine Intellectual Property.

phuck them they should. they are trying hard to continue profiting off covid vaccines

already got billions in tax money to make vaccine.

all of them said they want booster shots yearly.

MRNA was nobody before covid.
Right, and now those tax dollars are essentially going to the rest of the world. That’s retarded.
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Right, and now those tax dollars are essentially going to the rest of the world. That’s retarded.
Not sure if I am understanding you're point.

Every modern country gave huge amounts of tax payer money for development.

Pfizer already increased the price of individual vaccines they charge.
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
I like your new mantra.
It’s all about the mindset, and I’m pivoting my mindset. Gotta pivot in this market!


Am I doing it right?..
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lol bought 20k worth of eth classic yesterday at 49 bucks sold it later that day at 65 bucks fckn lol

id be up 25k more then i sold it for just fml
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