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post 1678827363 03-12-2023, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
That has nothing to do with what I said. And also there was no matter in the early universe. So you're wrong.
No, I'm not wrong. Once again..Matter, space, and time must come into existence together: if you had matter but no space, where would you put it; if you had matter but no time, when would you put it?

Physics states there is no Time & Space, there is only Space-Time, meaning one is absolutely dependent of its existence on the other.

you absolute retard. you really are, it's amazing how often people have to call you out on your bullchit
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
A Chad whose gene will pass on need not concern himself with whether a genetic fukk up like you believes him or not.

My kids will be religious, Chad, prosperous, but most importantly, they will carry on the gene that predisposes them to bullying absolutely dysgenic losers like you, just like how their father did.
Then why bring it up to me in the first place? Were you concerned before and not concerned now?
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Originally Posted By Paul
No, I'm not wrong. Once again..Matter, space, and time must come into existence together: if you had matter but no space, where would you put it; if you had matter but no time, when would you put it?

go on..
This is a tangent, but you are assuming matter came into existence when the universe did. We actually know this to be false. There was no matter in the early universe. Matter is made of quarks and leptons. Neither existed in the very early universe.

But of course, you've never taken cosmology or even passed elementary physics courses like QM, CM, Stat mech, or E&M. So it isn't surprising that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Then why bring it up to me in the first place? Were you concerned before and not concerned now?
Not once in this thread have I attempted to convince you of God's existence.

I've spent the entire thread pointing out that atheists are losers like you. Ridiculing you, pointing out the fact that you're a genetic failure, and that atheism is cope for dysgenic ****gets like you.

I know you lack actual human interaction and real life experiences, but when another man calls you a dysgenic loser, he's not exactly concerned with you lulz.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
This is a tangent, but you are assuming matter came into existence when the universe did. We actually know this to be false. There was no matter in the early universe. Matter is made of quarks and leptons. Neither existed in the very early universe.

But of course, you've never taken cosmology or even passed elementary physics courses like QM, CM, Stat mech, or E&M. So it isn't surprising that you have no idea what you're talking about.
wrong...as always.
what is that space-time made of...? One way or another you MUST have matter for space-time to exist, as in content for that space-time. What that content is becomes irrelevant, it can be quarks, black matter, energy, antimatter, call it what you want, but that something is matter, or some form of it. Space-time has gravity, that is why time slows or speeds according to matter, and space folds and dilates according to matter (mass or accumulation of that matter). What this means is that we are looking at 2 different reactions of the same thing. Whether you call it dilation, contraction of space, or dilation/contraction of time. we are speaking of the same thing. What do you suppose cause space-time to bend/dilate/contract? well, if you remember your basic physics is gravity, and how does gravity happens? again, if you remember your basic physics is by concentration of mass, which again could be energy, or anything that is a form of matter.

let me ask you something..srsly..


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post 1678828263 03-12-2023, 12:56 PM
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And just like that Wincel gets owned and abandons thread once again
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ITT: Wincel gets intellectually abused by Paul Kreul, and mentally abused by ChangThunderWang.

RIP Wincel.

Atheism takes another L.
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Paul, learn to read. And maybe consider actually reading some physics for once.

Condor, you spend an awful lot of time insulting me. So you must actually care a lot about what I think. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother.
post 1678848753 03-12-2023, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Paul, learn to read. And maybe consider actually reading some physics for once.

Condor, you spend an awful lot of time insulting me. So you must actually care a lot about what I think. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother.
Just get done with your shift at Starbucks Winnie?
Look girly, you are wrong about everything you post, if you want people to stop calling out your bullchit. do better. Not much else to say.
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No.

I believe morality is, and even among Godless people exists some form of morality.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Just get done with your shift at Starbucks Winnie?
Look girly, you are wrong about everything you post, if you want people to stop calling out your bullchit. do better. Not much else to say.
Your comments contradict all known models of cosmology. You're a crackpot.

My favorite part was when you said antimatter was matter. Can't really do much except laugh at that point.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Your comments contradict all known models of cosmology. You're a crackpot.
well chit, you clearly have no understanding of physics then. Time to curb stomp you again.

Go ahead, explain. be specific..
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Originally Posted By Paul
well chit, you clearly have no understanding of physics then. Time to curb stomp you again.

Go ahead, explain. be specific..
Matter is comprised of quarks and leptons. Neither existed in the very early universe, contradicting your original claim. Then you went on to imply antimatter is matter. You're an idiot and have probably never passed any upper division or graduate courses in physics. You probably can't solve a single problem from Jackson.
post 1678849393 03-12-2023, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
even among Godless people exists some form of morality.
No one is disputing that.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Matter is comprised of quarks and leptons. Neither existed in the very earlynuniverse, contradicting your original claim. Then you went on to imply antimatter is matter. You're an idiot and have probably never passed any upper division or graduate courses in physics. You probably can't solve a single problem from Jackson.
I literally told you what matter is composed of, lol..it can be quarks, black matter, energy, antimatter, call it what you want, but that something is matter, or some form of it...they must come to existence at the same time is absolutely a complete and total certainty. Why? there is NOT SUCH A THING as just time, or just space, or just matter. Space and time are ONE and the SAME and space-time CANNOT exist without existence of matter. So it follows…. the existence of one implies the existence of the other.. at the very same time.


See this image? what do you find in EVERY single image of space-time? Bending right? and guess how that bending happens..?



side note.... does not matter if EARF was not present yet weetard! LOOOL


post 1678849683 03-12-2023, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Matter is comprised of quarks and leptons. Neither existed in the very early universe, contradicting your original claim. Then you went on to imply antimatter is matter. You're an idiot and have probably never passed any upper division or graduate courses in physics. You probably can't solve a single problem from Jackson.
wait..what??

Anti matter is matter you dumb invalid. Antimatter is a type of matter composed of antiparticles such as positrons and antiprotons...it's just a reverse charge...LOOOOOLLLL

hole-lee-fuk you are legit retarded. dedfukinsrs
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩
No one is disputing that.
Fair point. I should've elaborated.

Re-read the OP and I don't think it would keep us from accepting every form of degeneracy. It's already happening right now and that's with the bible in our society.

With every set of norms, rules, and hierarchies there will always be deviants.
What's keeping us fixed at a certain understanding of morality without God?
Specifically for this question I believe it's the power and influence of the authorities (governments/corporations) over us. The threat of punishment from them is what keeps us in line.

As for them, there's really no one keeping them in line which is why we have a handful of companies control most of the wealth an industries in the world.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Specifically for this question I believe it's the power and influence of the authorities (governments/corporations) over us. The threat of punishment from them is what keeps us in line.

As for them, there's really no one keeping them in line which is why we have a handful of companies control most of the wealth an industries in the world.
Maybe when it comes to sins that are illegal, but for sins that are not illegal, society that rejects God will keep on dissolving standards and pushing boundaries until complete degeneracy is commonplace. It's literally happening right now.
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩
Maybe when it comes to sins that are illegal, but for sins that are not illegal, society that rejects God will keep on dissolving standards and pushing boundaries until complete degeneracy is commonplace. It's literally happening right now.
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consensus is Yes, religion matters.

Religion is not everything, but it isn't nothing either, same with race.

Everyone with atleast 100IQ can see the chithole communities that atheist create and come to that conclusion. there is no debate.
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Originally Posted By Paul
wait..what??

Anti matter is matter you dumb invalid. Antimatter is a type of matter composed of antiparticles such as positrons and antiprotons...it's just a reverse charge...LOOOOOLLLL

hole-lee-fuk you are legit retarded. dedfukinsrs
This is an incredibly stupid discussion since we are using the word two different ways. Regardless, there was no matter in the very early universe. Read some cosmology instead of just reading the bible and pop sci articles and thinking you know what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn⏩
Maybe when it comes to sins that are illegal, but for sins that are not illegal, society that rejects God will keep on dissolving standards and pushing boundaries until complete degeneracy is commonplace. It's literally happening right now.
Ahh I see what you mean now, srs.

The only way to solve that is for this idea society to embrace true spirituality, srs.

God fearing people do believe in their own Spirituality...But Spirituality can exist in the absence of God.
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Originally Posted By Paul
I literally told you what matter is composed of, lol..it can be quarks, black matter, energy, antimatter, call it what you want, but that something is matter, or some form of it...they must come to existence at the same time is absolutely a complete and total certainty. Why? there is NOT SUCH A THING as just time, or just space, or just matter. Space and time are ONE and the SAME and space-time CANNOT exist without existence of matter. So it follows…. the existence of one implies the existence of the other.. at the very same time.


See this image? what do you find in EVERY single image of space-time? Bending right? and guess how that bending happens..?



side note.... does not matter if EARF was not present yet weetard! LOOOL


Yes by all means please derive the Einstein Field Equations and how that curvature occurs. Also, explain why you think matter must exist for any curvature. (It doesn't need to. Energy causes a curvature as well.)
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
So is anyone gonna post any definition of "God" followed by some concrete evidence it exists? I don't mean "The evidence is all around you." vague chit...I mean real hardcore evidence. I'd like to see how God factors into this universe too. How does God manipulate matter, space, and energy? Use equations. I want to see concrete math and experimental evidence to at least 7 sigma. No hand waving.
Still waiting for someone to do this, but they keep derailing.

So far, Paul Kreul has volunteered an explanation: "Jews".

This is not a mathematical model or a presentation of evidence. Pretty unconvincing. Anyone else want to give it a go?
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Still waiting for someone to do this, but they keep derailing.

So far, Paul Kreul has volunteered an explanation: "Jews".

This is not a mathematical model or a presentation of evidence. Pretty unconvincing. Anyone else want to give it a go?
there is no evidence that god doesn't exist, jew boy
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Originally Posted By Paul
Just the opposite. Weak people are atheists. They have no footing in life. They sway with the wind. They let their temptations rule their life and have no fortitude. It's easy to be an atheist, and living how you please to, it's a childish way of growing through life. It's difficult to resist what you know to be wrong, and stand you're ground. Atheists are the weakest people that walk the earth. Atheist are also the most untrustworthy people in the world, how can you trust a man that cannot control his desires?
We can control our desires naturally without needing a book to order us to. The whole point of religion is COPE. You need to be comforted that daddy is looking after you after you die. The thought of nothing after death scares you to death so you use religion to cope. The irony of thinking you are strong. lmao.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
there is no evidence that god doesn't exist, jew boy
I gave a pretty good reason why the one most of you talk about is contradictory earlier. The fact there is no absolute time basically kills most versions of the Abrahamic God or the Christian notion of free will.

There are other weird problems too. Like why do Christians think electrons have free will? LMFAO that's kind of weird. But that actually has to be true if people do. There are other weird issues too. How does the "soul" magically affect quantum states to make chit happen a certain way? lol

Fake and ghey.
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Originally Posted By Pumped⏩
We can control our desires naturally without needing a book to order us to. The whole point of religion is COPE. You need to be comforted that daddy is looking after you after you die. The thought of nothing after death scares you to death so you use religion to cope. The irony of thinking you are strong. lmao.
you can't control your desires, and you are lying if you say you can. Oh sure, maybe for a season, but you will fall. And a man that lives for pleasure is a weak man, and that is all atheists do.
But none of this changes the reality of God. He exits whether you disagree with me or not.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
I gave a pretty good reason why the one most of you talk about is contradictory earlier. The fact there is no absolute time basically kills most version of the Abrahamic God or the Christian notion of free will.
God is outside of time..and please do tell, do you still think anti-matter is not matter?

you also evaded the question..how do you think that bending happens?

Go on...


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Originally Posted By Paul
you can't control your desires, and you are lying if you say you can. Oh sure, maybe for a season, but you will fall. And a man that lives for pleasure is a weak man, and that is all atheists do.
But none of this changes the reality of God. He exits whether you disagree with me or not.
Pretty sweeping generalization. I am an atheist. I don't live for pleasure.
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