Cliffs on thread or is this a self-help type thread

I've messaged women on apps with no success. I've chatted up several women at the gym and got 3 numbers. No dates, but a first hangout this Saturday with a woman I met at the gym. Advice on text game and maximizing looks has been given. Still approaching women at the gym if I find the opportunity.

OP is a turbo autist who is approaching women (in the gym), asking for their numbers and then completely messing it up with cringy beta texts. But he's working hard to improve and lots of miscers are giving him advice. It's an interesting thread.

Honest question - who gives a chit?

This girl will never give you a straight answer as to why she strung you along and rejected you. She's doing it for her own safety, cause a lot of men flip the fuk out when they get rejected. Even if she does tell you something, it won't be the truth... it will be whatever she thinks is most likely to get you to fuk off and go away.

It's like a job interview. You've almost certainty been passed over after an interview before, but you'll never know why that was. Even if you called the hiring manager and asked him, he would never give you a straight answer, because he's paranoid about handing you ammo for a lawsuit.

It's the exact same chit here. This girl gains nothing by explaining her thought process to you, and risks you turning into a weirdo stalker or chit, so she's not going to do it.

I know you WANT that feedback, whether to improve yourself or feel better about the situation or what. But it's just not going to happen. Just drop it and quit texting her.

I went on a first date about a month ago that I thought went well. The girl ghosted me afterwards. And you bet I questioned myself afterwards. Did I say something stupid on the date? Did I text too much and kill the vibe? Was this a pity date all along? Chit like that. But I didn't ask her what was up, cause I knew that would be useless. I took no answerasthe answer and just dropped it there.

Based.She hasn't rejected me yet. Also, why would she text me so frequently and want to know more about me if she's just trying to be nice? Seems like an awful lot of effort to go through. I was sad for a while last night, but I'm back to reality and realize it isn't the end of the world. I'm totally fine with just being friends, if that's how it turns out. I get where you're coming from. Women may try to soften the blow or give a bluepilled reply when they're really just not attracted to the guy. I remember your date. That's too bad. I figured you were happy with how the date went as well.

No, it wouldn't take care of the other 2. Losing the glasses would make you look less nerdy which is a start, but the latter two are mostly personality/behavioral.

Losing the glasses is a simple thing you can do, and does not depend on a "more appropriate nose".

I do agree that the glasses, especially paired with the facial hair (and maybe even the 'do) are a bad look. Plastic surgery is cringe too and also for me the one thing that seems way out there from the rest of this thread.

If I'm still struggling in a few months, I'll give contacts a shot. I am going to buy new glasses relatively soon and will get better frames this time. Don't you believe the face has a lot to do with anerdylook?

For example:



Perhaps it's the frames. I need a closer shave. I shaved right before I took that selfie on the previous page, yet it looks like a five o'clock shadow. What's wrong with my do? Surgery is definitely out there from the other things I've said and done in this thread. I am thinking of ways to increase my chances of meeting the woman of my dreams.

Got off the FaceTime with the surgeon. He says I am a fantastic candidate and he already has an idea for how he'd approach the surgery. He believes I would get great results from a rhinoplasty. He said I have a great jaw, which is nice to hear. It's pretty exciting stuff, and I am definitely considering it. I have the PTO and the money to pay. It should be $21,500 for the procedure.

Will respond more when I'm not rinsed, but tldr is you just really have nothing majorly wrong or ugly about you.

Oh the guy who wants to sell you something says it's a good idea to buy something from him?

No chit sherrif. Man trying to sell you surgery says you'd be a fantastic candidate for that surgery.

Man lands on moon.

You have a lot more work to do in the gym and in the field before you should even think about surgery.

lol

this.

op please dont spend 21k on a fukin nose job

are you really that desparate for pussy? are you an incel?

if youve gotten multiple women before dont worry about your nose

My instincts are telling me you're a troll, but I can't tell if they're misfiring because I've never interacted with anyone at this level of social autism.

Haha, you drinking? You're very kind, but I believe there are things wrong with me and I am working on them.Why would he lie? I'm sure he's got enough money.He seems like a genuine guy. His website, Google reviews, and Instagram page all seem to confirm this.I totally agree about having to do more work in the gym and field. I am going to make like Solid Snake and mullet over (this is one of my dad jokes).Desperate? I really want it, absolutely. I think about it all the time. I suppose I am incel. It's been about 15 months since I've done the deed.Why do you keep doubting me? You've been here since the beginning of this thread or close to it.

In other news, I'm putting it out there: I need to approach at least one woman at the gym this Friday. I haven't approach in a week and that's a shame. I always free style it, but I'll try to compliment something (e.g., shoes, tattoo, hair, their technique on an exercise, etc.) I see and go from there. I saw a few beauties tonight, but was working in with a friend and a few of the cuties were in groups of 2. That's tough.

The woman from post #151 (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1687250163) replied to my message on LinkedIn.



I got a match on Tinder with a woman who lives very close to me. She replied to my message.



As far as plastic surgery goes, my quote is valid for 3 months so I'm going to think it over and get back to them. I still think it's a great idea. Here's an example of the work he's done:https://www.lipsg.com/gallery/face/r...rs_name--reish

You're using these two images to suggest some faces are nerdier than others? This is your evidence? The lighting, glasses, photo focal length, shave, etc. are all basically identical. You think #1 is just genetically nerdy and #2 genetically blessed. Hmm.

Luci has given you a lot of good advice in this thread and I agree with him again, this feels like a roll bread.

An extreme level of social autism and yet 3/6 women cold approached in the gym have given him their real number. Doesn't add up. All that said,

Post #378 also has me questioning breadroll. Insane texts, and the doc's before/after pics are so obviously skewed - fish eye lense + chit lighting in the before pic.

[QUOTE=HangingChad post_id=1688519193]You're using these two images to suggest some faces are nerdier than others? This is your evidence? The lighting, glasses, photo focal length, shave, etc. are all basically identical. You think #1 is just genetically nerdy and #2 genetically blessed. Hmm.

Luci has given you a lot of good advice in this thread and I agree with him again, this feels like a roll bread.[/QUOTE]I don't know how to interpret what you're saying here.

[QUOTE=HangingChad post_id=1688519503]An extreme level of social autism and yet 3/6 women cold approached in the gym have given him their real number. Doesn't add up. All that said,

[img]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41ihrdwHD8L._AC_.jpg[img][/QUOTE]Be leaf, sir. Also, 6 women is a small sample size. It's also at the gym, and you need to consider that 2 of those 3 women had either a great pickup line said to them or conversation that built up over time before asking for a number. Also, the 1st woman whose number I got had seen me at the gym for months. I tried picking up women at the mall several months ago and was probably 0 for 12. I do not recommend it to anyone unless you're very GL. However, success also depends on the type of women who frequent whichever mall it is.

[QUOTE=legbroke post_id=1688523233]Post #378 also has me questioning breadroll. Insane texts, and the doc's before/after pics are so obviously skewed - fish eye lense + chit lighting in the before pic.[/QUOTE]Damn, legbroke. They got to you too? This witch hunt is nonsense. What is insane text? lol. I agree about some of the before and afters not being 1:1 in terms of how each shot is taken, but the differences are noticeably better regardless.

Roll bread. Errr-ror- Err-ror.
Glitch in the AI.
lmao

The way you write would make a wet pussy shrivel up into a body like a fuking snail when it sees a human

Stop complimenting these women when they hear the same thing from desperate simps 10 times per day. You were advised not to do this.

"you have a lovely smile" is cringe and doesn't help.

niceI thought I was overly complimentary after my message to the woman on Tinder. That's my bad. I will do my best to refrain from it going forward. I'm still getting way too excited and coming across as desperate.

I haven't posted in years, but I come to this thread and all I gotta say is, wow. There is no way that someone has this little self-awareness after all of you are trying to show him the light

You could spend the 21k on a very, very attractive hooker every other weekend for a year. That would be the alpha option. The beta option is spend it on surgery to help simp and jestermax for sloots who are basically amateur whores.

Is ArCaNe66 real?

I skimmed this thread, and can't tell if he's a clueless man or a really devoted troll

Apparently I've gotten a few lurkers to post in this thread. I am not trolling. I have been quite persistent in my pursuit of finding a date. It isn't easy for me.Lol, where would I even find this person? I don't see how trying to improve my facial harmony by giving me a more appropriate nose is a beta move.I was a doomer, but recently I've been putting myself out there in hopes of finding someone.