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03-02-2024, 05:10 PM
#361
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
It makes a lot more sense now. JLC says a lot of words, but never says anything at all. Dialectical philosophies are the epitome of nonsense, because they lack any and all logic. They make an observation, and suddenly they feel smart, but when they attempt to form any kind of conclusion, it’s complete nonsense. They lack the ability to comprehend logic as well, or refuse to acknowledge it.
The irony in this word salad is rich.

I'm not a philosopher.

But, I'm familiar with questions, hypotheses, data collection, analyses, and inference
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03-02-2024, 05:12 PM
#362
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Of course. All he does is lie, deflect, derail, downplay, play semantics, and engage in most of the other tactics of trolling online. I’m kind of surprised anyone still chooses to engage in a discussion with him at all. Just look at all of his posts. The agendas and angles are evident. All he wants to do is troll. The faster everyone ignores him the better off this forum will be. And as an added bonus, it irritates him more than anything else. Just look at how mad he’s gotten because I refuse to talk to him now. Just lmao.
Like I said, I'm not mad.

I understand that people can react this way when embarrassed publicly.

S'all good
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03-02-2024, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I get that religious folks have a different set of beliefs.

I'm cool with that. Just don't expect me to subscribe
Except it's not a belief..it's a fact.

I get your desire to change truths, but that does not chang the truth
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03-02-2024, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Except it's not a belief..it's a fact.

I get your desirre to change truths, but that does not chang the truth
If it's a fact, it should be accompanied by reviewable evidence.

What evidence do you have that gender is determined at conception?

Distinction between gender and sex is far from new.

Psychology 1985
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pd...nXU00nl2srGBes

Applied physiology 2005
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/...iol.00376.2005
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03-02-2024, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Every time you respond to this shill he gets paid, so stop. He’ll never debate in good faith, he’ll lie, be intentionally dishonest, play dumb, and talk in circles.

Stop indulging him and paying his bills
Lol


The only way someone wouldn't subscribe to the misc narrative is if they're being paid?

Just lol
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03-02-2024, 05:27 PM
#366
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The irony in this word salad is rich.

I'm not a philosopher.

But, I'm familiar with questions, hypotheses, data collection, analyses, and inference
Lol
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03-02-2024, 05:28 PM
#367
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
If it's a fact, it should be accompanied by reviewable evidence.

What evidence do you have that gender is determined at conception?

Distinction between gender and sex is far from new.

Psychology 1985
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pd...nXU00nl2srGBes

Applied physiology 2005
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/...iol.00376.2005
Those have no barring in any scientific basis whatsoever.


"The sex of a baby is determined by its chromosome make-up at conception. An embryo with two X chromosomes will become a girl, while an embryo with an X-Y combination results in a boy"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1215141333.htm
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03-02-2024, 05:32 PM
#368
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Those have no barring in any scientific basis whatsoever.


"The sex of a baby is determined by its chromosome make-up at conception. An embryo with two X chromosomes will become a girl, while an embryo with an X-Y combination results in a boy"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1215141333.htm
Agreed
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03-02-2024, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Agreed
gender and sex are synonymous and have been since the 14th century

The thing is, Gender is a noun class. Languages have gender. People don’t.
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03-02-2024, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget⏩
remember when monkey pox was the new plague?
but only gays and pets were getting it and now they don't report on it anymore.

so weird.

just like stop Asian hate.
again, so weird.
Pets somehow got it, and those two kids some how got it.

Also, there IS that one straight guy that Benny claims got it from bumping into someone at a concert…..
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03-02-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Those have no barring in any scientific basis whatsoever.


"The sex of a baby is determined by its chromosome make-up at conception. An embryo with two X chromosomes will become a girl, while an embryo with an X-Y combination results in a boy"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1215141333.htm
Don’t attempt to play the game. Dialectics redefine words on their terms. Sex? We agree. Gender? Nope!! You’re wrong. Gender is the social construct and sex is the scientific reference. /rolleyes. They stole the science for their social gains
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03-02-2024, 05:39 PM
#372
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
gender and sex are synonymous and have been since the 14th century

The thing is, Gender is a noun class. Languages have gender. People don’t.
Disagree
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03-02-2024, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That's what LGTBQS2+ stands for.

Gender and sex are different constructs, social and biological, respectively.
Can animals be transgender?
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03-02-2024, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Can animals be transgender?
Yep. Humans are animals
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03-02-2024, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Those have no barring in any scientific basis whatsoever.


"The sex of a baby is determined by its chromosome make-up at conception. An embryo with two X chromosomes will become a girl, while an embryo with an X-Y combination results in a boy"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1215141333.htm

I disagree that sex is binary, but this is at least a scientific conversation we can have. Not just angry squealing about mythical paedo cabals. Although, the right-wing do tend to devolve into angry squealing anyway, on the subject of binary sex, and can't have an intelligent discussion on the topic.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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03-02-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Disagree
That's certainly your choice.

But your use of gender is only relevant today because people felt the use of the word "sex" was crass and and "icky"…you most likely don't even know the history of why the word gender became common place with sex.

Sex” is a biological term. “Sexual intercourse” is the formal term for schtuping. But sometime around the 1940s or 1950s the term “sex” started to be used to refer to sexual intercourse as well, and thus the word “sex” started to become “icky”. So laymen snagged the word “gender” from linguists and started to use it in place of the proper usage of “sex.
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03-02-2024, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I disagree that sex is binary, but this is at least a scientific conversation we can have. Not just angry squealing about mythical paedo cabals. Although, the right-wing do tend to devolve into angry squealing anyway, on the subject of binary sex, and can't have an intelligent discussion on the topic.
I'd rather not, your form of a discussion always results in name calling, and I find myself getting roped into the same negativity.

That's a fault of mine, I admit.
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03-02-2024, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I disagree that sex is binary, but this is at least a scientific conversation we can have. Not just angry squealing about mythical paedo cabals. Although, the right-wing do tend to devolve into angry squealing anyway, on the subject of binary sex, and can't have an intelligent discussion on the topic.
There are extremely rare anomalies, like hermaphroditism, but even then, they generally decide which way to go and have the surgery to remove any non-working parts etc. That’s not what we are talking about here. Non-binary in the sense that the left is talking about is not biological, it’s psychological. Don’t try to conflate or make this any more complex than it is.

Again, I think people try to make this complex because they are just stupid and want to sound smart, cool, trendy, and “new”. This is a trend, just like it was in the Weimar Republic. This isn’t the first time this mind virus spread, and with social media, it’s far worse this time around.
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03-02-2024, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
That's certainly your choice.

But your use of gender is only relevant today because people felt the use of the word "sex" was crass and and "icky"…you most likely don't even know the history of why the word gender became common place with sex.

Sex” is a biological term. “Sexual intercourse” is the formal term for schtuping. But sometime around the 1940s or 1950s the term “sex” started to be used to refer to sexual intercourse as well, and thus the word “sex” started to become “icky”. So laymen snagged the word “gender” from linguists and started to use it in place of the proper usage of “sex.
Well no. I think the terms are used to refer to different constructs.
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03-02-2024, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Well no. I think the terms are used to refer to different constructs.
But who created that construct? You know what social constructionism is, right? It’s the result of a tiny minority trying to socially construct the majority to their ideal. And you and Bohdy actually went for it. My God you’re so stupid
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03-02-2024, 05:58 PM
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The biological basis of human sexual orientation: is there a role for epigenetics?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25172350/
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03-02-2024, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
But who created that construct? You know what social constructionism is, right? It’s the result of a tiny minority trying to socially construct the majority to their ideal. And you and Bohdy actually went for it. My God you’re so stupid
I disagree. Especially in the case of race, which is another social construct.
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03-02-2024, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Well no. I think the terms are used to refer to different constructs.


Again, your opinion. The term “sex” as “male or female” goes all the way back to Latin from which the term was imported, and “gender” is a newish coinage, though “gender” is an older word that originally meant “type”.It is in fact the word gender that got co-opted. As sex began to take on erotic and forbidden undertones, gender started being used regularly for this purpose (m/f)

So again, your "opinion" has no basis in reality
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03-02-2024, 06:01 PM
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We didn't stop the satanists, which paved the way for the gay AIDS. Now that society has been beaten down by satanic aids, they're sending the peedoughs in to finish us off. I'm not going down without a fight you hear me
Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.

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Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.
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03-02-2024, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Again, your opinion. The term “sex” as “male or female” goes all the way back to Latin from which the term was imported, and “gender” is a newish coinage, though “gender” is an older word that originally meant “type”.It is in fact the word gender that got co-opted. As sex began to take on erotic and forbidden undertones, gender started being used regularly for this purpose (m/f)

So again, your "opinion" has no basis in reality
It's not my opinion, I posted sources of support.

Gender has more to do with societal roles (like traditional gender roles, gender norms, etc).
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03-02-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's not my opinion, I posted sources of support.

Gender has more to do with societal roles (like traditional gender roles, gender norms, etc).
You posted philosophy articles, I posted a scientific paper & gave you the historical record of the words.
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03-02-2024, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
I'd rather not, your form of a discussion always results in name calling, and I find myself getting roped into the same negativity.

That's a fault of mine, I admit.

Your claim that my discussion revolves into name calling is just a lie. If I devolved into name calling, it's because you did it first and the cultists call people names here at a rate 100x more frequently than anyone else. Or, it's because you said something scientifically illiterate even after having been corrected on it a hundred times before.


Right-wingers employ more childish, angry and hateful personal attacks than any other group here by a country mile.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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03-02-2024, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Your claim that my discussion revolves into name calling is just a lie. If I devolved into name calling, it's because you did it first and the cultists call people names here at a rate 100x more frequently than anyone else. Or, it's because you said something scientifically illiterate even after having been corrected on it a hundred times before.


Right-wingers employ more childish, angry and hateful personal attacks than any other group here by a country mile.

Thank you for proving my point, engage with someone else please.
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03-02-2024, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's not my opinion, I posted sources of support.

Gender has more to do with societal roles (like traditional gender roles, gender norms, etc).

Even the claim that sex is binary rests on the idea that genotype determines phenotype. Which in simpler terms, is a commitment to a genocentric theory of biology, which views the genes as literally being the storehouse of all biological information that makes an organism the thing that is.


Genocentric biology has been so thoroughly butt-fukked by science and philosophy of biology it isn't funny. If you look at any so called determinant of sex you can always find a genuine counterexample in nature, and it turns out the idea of essentialism is replaced by something more like a Wittgensteinian family resemblance sort of thing.
Back off, Warchild.

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03-02-2024, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
You posted philosophy articles, I posted a scientific paper & gave you the historical record of the words.
No. Psychology and applied physiology.

Then a review of the biological basis of sexual orientation.
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