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post 1490632631 04-11-2017, 07:17 AM
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I very much dislike the lawsuit mentality that is pervasive in today's society, but I hope United gets destroyed over this.
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post 1490635981 04-11-2017, 07:45 AM
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post 1490636211 04-11-2017, 07:47 AM
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Probably should of left when he was told to leave
post 1490637091 04-11-2017, 07:55 AM
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post 1490638671 04-11-2017, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah
Probably should of left when he was told to leave
This, just like the Jews boarding the trains. Just get in line, do what you're told and don't ask questions.
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post 1490640631 04-11-2017, 08:25 AM
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post 1490640671 04-11-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted By EatnCleans
Podunk bringing the facts


He was seated already and thus they had no right to remove him. They would have been within their "terms" IF they had refused to let him actually board the plane and denied him.


Is this correct way of thinking?
yeah but if they overbook, how do they know if they will need to IDB anyone until the plane is full?

i see the UA ceo sort of passes blame to the separate-company security guys, early

i personally think overbooking is absurd and should be illegal



these security officials were real police? if that is true, it's interesting. it may have been legit.

one thing i dont like is all the twitter bystanders jumping in , just like protests, and declaring their opinion and judgement to be the undeniable fact. we do not live in a society that is decided by mob rule.
post 1490641581 04-11-2017, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
yeah but if they overbook, how do they know if they will need to IDB anyone until the plane is full?

i see the UA ceo sort of passes blame to the separate-company security guys, early

i personally think overbooking is absurd and should be illegal



these security officials were real police? if that is true, it's interesting. it may have been legit.
Your suppose to check in and what not, so I think they should have a pretty good idea of the capacity

CEO shoulda handled it better, straight savage

I agree
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post 1490641821 04-11-2017, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By EatnCleans
Your suppose to check in and what not, so I think they should have a pretty good idea of the capacity

CEO shoulda handled it better, straight savage

I agree
ah yeah true between when you first show your ticket and when you actually show for boarding i guess they should check the numbers but when i go it seems you only show your ticket early on just to show you belong there so you can start the luggage/search part. maybe they do 'check in' there, or they are supposed to.
post 1490643281 04-11-2017, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
ah yeah true between when you first show your ticket and when you actually show for boarding i guess they should check the numbers but when i go it seems you only show your ticket early on just to show you belong there so you can start the luggage/search part. maybe they do 'check in' there, or they are supposed to.
i really don't think there was an overbook situation was there? everyone who bought a ticket was on the plane. they must have decided last minute to get the 4 additional crew on board. overbooks generally are sorted out before you board. once you board, it's pretty hard to manage to get people off the plane who aren't being disruptive.
post 1490643491 04-11-2017, 08:48 AM
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Can we just make a special subsection of the forums for all the retards who are trying to justify what united did. Or can I have my reps uncapped for the day so I can pass out more negs. Pls
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post 1490644671 04-11-2017, 08:54 AM
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post 1490646351 04-11-2017, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf
good thing something that happened 15 years ago is completely irrelevant to this
post 1490646671 04-11-2017, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation
one thing i dont like is all the twitter bystanders jumping in , just like protests, and declaring their opinion and judgement to be the undeniable fact. we do not live in a society that is decided by mob rule.
Like it or not these are the people that may possibly sit on a jury. Hence why UA is fuked no matter what. They can spend hours explaining and arguing all the rules or whatever they want but once the video of the guy getting his face smashed and dragged off the plane is played, its over. UA won't issue an apology because then it'll be an admission of guilt and they'll be taken to cleaners even harder than they already will be.
hard to hate on a fellow wings fan but....


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post 1490646891 04-11-2017, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf
Negged, that has no bearing, nor does it justify any action Untied or the security team, dolt.
post 1490647331 04-11-2017, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted By RudeKong
Like it or not these are the people that may possibly sit on a jury. Hence why UA is fuked no matter what. They can spend hours explaining and arguing all the rules or whatever they want but once the video of the guy getting his face smashed and dragged off the plane is played, its over. UA won't issue an apology because then it'll be an admission of guilt and they'll be taken to cleaners even harder than they already will be.
You're missing the bigger pictures. If the company owns up, apologizes, and starts trying to handle this the way they should have from the beginning, they will be better off. The lawsuit money they will pay out is NOTHING compared to the value they will lose from the bad press. The stock is already down 800 million in 24 hours, that is without a single dollar of lost revenue from the people that will stop flying with them. When you're a public company you HAVE to do better than this because you are accountable to the shareholders.
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their overall stock value dropped almost 1 bil lol
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if the drug story bears no impact on the original story, then nor should the fact he's a doctor.
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Originally Posted By _zman
This $800 voucher just turned into $800 million in losses of shareholder value

RIP United
Originally Posted By seanb1979
their overall stock value dropped almost 1 bil lol
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post 1490649981 04-11-2017, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts
You're missing the bigger pictures. If the company owns up, apologizes, and starts trying to handle this the way they should have from the beginning, they will be better off. The lawsuit money they will pay out is NOTHING compared to the value they will lose from the bad press. The stock is already down 800 million in 24 hours, that is without a single dollar of lost revenue from the people that will stop flying with them. When you're a public company you HAVE to do better than this because you are accountable to the shareholders.
In hindsight yes they should have started on the right foot and declared an apology from the beginning and started working towards cleaning this mess. Would that have saved them from their stock tanking? Absolutely not. Maybe not as bad as it has (is) but this is a PR nightmare and no amount of apologies is going to save it. I should have worded it that they won't issue an apology right now. Not till after they settle with the guy. Legally I'm sure it's not in their best interest to admit guilt till after they can do their own investigation but by that time the damage was done, it was plastered all over social media. As someone stated before... In a year people will forget. This won't be the end of UA. People still have to fly.
hard to hate on a fellow wings fan but....


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Originally Posted By pushlimits
if the drug story bears no impact on the original story, then nor should the fact he's a doctor.
Salt of the earth he aint, but they didn't know that, so Pope or gang banger, irreverent to this event.
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Originally Posted By RudeKong
In hindsight yes they should have started on the right foot and declared an apology from the beginning and started working towards cleaning this mess. Would that have saved them from their stock tanking? Absolutely not. Maybe not as bad as it has (is) but this is a PR nightmare and no amount of apologies is going to save it. I should have worded it that they won't issue an apology right now. Not till after they settle with the guy. Legally I'm sure it's not in their best interest to admit guilt till after they can do their own investigation but by that time the damage was done, it was plastered all over social media. As someone stated before... In a year people will forget. This won't be the end of UA. People still have to fly.
The pragmatic heartless person would probably be grabbing some United stock right about now. Just sayin'
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Some things I see.. Of course, this is just my opinion..

1) Guy did act like a giant baby.
2) Guy also had the right to be there, he was boarded and seated and causing no issues(beforehand), not belligerent like the CEO of UA accuses. Also, according to UA policy, he had a right to be there.
3) Offered $800 to change to a flight that would be the next day, definitely not worth it.
4) (at the time) He said he was a doctor and had patients to see the next morning. This would have been very easy to verify by UA.
5) UA's CEO done goofed hard with his statement.
6) Stocks down nearly $1 billion in a day.
7) Doc gonna make bank off this.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
their overall stock value dropped almost 1 bil lol
Read that United lost $830 million in value so far and it is still going down. All because the manager laughed at that $1600 offer from a passenger. All said and done with lost customers United could be losing $2+ billion over $1600. Rofl. That manager is never going to be hired in the industry again. CEO probably is going to be replaced for his leaked email. Mind blown that all of this is happening because United couldn't or wouldn't book flights for their employees effectively and instead inconvenienced customers. They deserve all of this however.
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Originally Posted By greenleaf
This has nothing to do with the incident and won't hold in court. The doctor is shady no doubt. This just means he will be ready to sue the hell out of United Airlines because shady people tend to be all about that money. RIP UAL.
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LOL @ you cucks supporting a convicted felon.

he is mentally ill and put every passenger in danger.....

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Originally Posted By pushlimits
if the drug story bears no impact on the original story, then nor should the fact he's a doctor.
But it doesn't? Who gives a fuk what he does for work, hes a human being with rights.
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Originally Posted By EatnCleans
Podunk bringing the facts


He was seated already and thus they had no right to remove him. They would have been within their "terms" IF they had refused to let him actually board the plane and denied him.


Is this correct way of thinking?
According to internet lawyers maybe, but not in the real world. They have the right to remove you from the flight anytime before takeoff for any reason. This dude isn't getting any money, he will be lucky if he doesn't get a charge. United doesn't give a **** about boycotts or their image, they are part of a government regulated monopoly.
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