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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
People who died with covid gave their political leanings before passing away?
Not difficult to find voter registration data, Dave.

Paper here:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w30512

Post vaccine, excess deaths among registered R's a pretty staggering 153% higher than registered D's, after controlling for age and other factors.

As always, when scientifically illiterate conservative mouthpieces do their grifting, their own voters pay with their lives.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Not difficult to find voter registration data, Dave.

Paper here:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w30512

Post vaccine, excess deaths among registered R's a pretty staggering 153% higher than registered D's, after controlling for age and other factors.

As always, when scientifically illiterate conservative mouthpieces do their grifting, their own voters pay with their lives.
Are you pushing for booster shots the same way you're pushing for the original jab?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Are you pushing for booster shots the same way you're pushing for the original jab?
Vulnerable populations should be getting routine boosters as with the flu. Low risk individuals, given the transmissability of the newer variants, the lower severity, and the higher levels of general immunity - I can't see any need.

Now tell me Dave, given the 150% higher excess deaths among Republican voters in some states post-vaccine availability, and the constantly increasing gap in death rates between R states and D states, whose approach to vaccination do you think was more successful overall?
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Vulnerable populations should be getting routine boosters as with the flu. Low risk individuals, given the transmissability of the newer variants, the lower severity, and the higher levels of general immunity - I can't see any need.

Now tell me Dave, given the 150% higher excess deaths among Republican voters in some states post-vaccine availability, and the constantly increasing gap in death rates between R states and D states, whose approach to vaccination do you think was more successful overall?
Which vaccine should they have gotten? J&J? The one that was recalled 3 times?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Honestly I don't care about retards jabbing themselves with whatever nonsense they want to. I don't even care about the condescending attitude towards anyone not willing to follow suit. But sticking their kids with this trash should be considered child abuse. Dead fukin serious.
My issue was with coercion. How many times I had to tell someone to shove their mask up their arse when they tried to force me to wear one, then ran to get the manager/staff etc. these individuals were state actors without actually being state officials. This is when you know you are losing political freedom.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
My issue was with coercion. How many times I had to tell someone to shove their mask up their arse when they tried to force me to wear one, then ran to get the manager/staff etc. these individuals were state actors without actually being state officials. This is when you know you are losing political freedom.
Americanski so soft. Not know coercion. Putin show coercion. Putin show. Serve Putin.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
Vulnerable populations should be getting routine boosters as with the flu. Low risk individuals, given the transmissability of the newer variants, the lower severity, and the higher levels of general immunity - I can't see any need.

Now tell me Dave, given the 150% higher excess deaths among Republican voters in some states post-vaccine availability, and the constantly increasing gap in death rates between R states and D states, whose approach to vaccination do you think was more successful overall?
Even in republican areas the vaccination rate is very high, especially with at risk demographics

Why are excess deaths so high everywhere even amomgst people whose risk of covid is nearly 0?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Which vaccine should they have gotten? J&J? The one that was recalled 3 times?
Can you answer the question instead of deflecting with another question?

Here, once more:
Now tell me Dave, given the 150% higher excess deaths among Republican voters in some states post-vaccine availability, and the constantly increasing gap in death rates between R states and D states, whose approach to vaccination do you think was more successful overall?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Even in republican areas the vaccination rate is very high, especially with at risk demographics

Why are excess deaths so high everywhere even amomgst people whose risk of covid is nearly 0?
There is around a 12-13% gap in vaccination rates per capita between R and D states. This amounts to millions of people.

Excess deaths can be caused by lots of things, negative consequences of lockdown being the most obvious. But overall, death rates in R states and among R voters have continued to increase at a much higher pace than among Democrats, despite being pretty similar (or even a bit skewed against Democrats) in the initial part of the pandemic.

Right wing grifts always end up costing lives, a tale as old as time.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
There is around a 12-13% gap in vaccination rates per capita between R and D states. This amounts to millions of people.

Excess deaths can be caused by lots of things, negative consequences of lockdown being the most obvious. But overall, death rates in R states and among R voters have continued to increase at a much higher pace than among Democrats, despite being pretty similar (or even a bit skewed against Democrats) in the initial part of the pandemic.

Right wing grifts always end up costing lives, a tale as old as time.
So you're finally admitting there were negative effects with the lockdowns? Despite the fact that you supported the countries that had the harshest ones? Like Australia?
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Originally Posted By Chadimir⏩
Americanski so soft. Not know coercion. Putin show coercion. Putin show. Serve Putin.
This is how it starts. The citizens start the coercion, and when that fails, the state takes over.

Communism and fascism always starts with the state influencing groups to rise up against the other groups.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
There is around a 12-13% gap in vaccination rates per capita between R and D states. This amounts to millions of people.

Excess deaths can be caused by lots of things, negative consequences of lockdown being the most obvious. But overall, death rates in R states and among R voters have continued to increase at a much higher pace than among Democrats, despite being pretty similar (or even a bit skewed against Democrats) in the initial part of the pandemic.

Right wing grifts always end up costing lives, a tale as old as time.
So excess death in R states is definitely from covid despite the seniors that are the most at risk being 90+% fully vaccinated but excess deaths for everyone else is a big question mark

LOL
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So you're finally admitting there were negative effects with the lockdowns? Despite the fact that you supported the countries that had the harshest ones? Like Australia?
Excess deaths are through the roof for young people even in states that didnt lock down but its still just a big mystery

I guess if new york and california lock down it causes kids in the entire country to get myocarditis
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
This is how it starts. The citizens start the coercion, and when that fails, the state takes over.

Communism and fascism always starts with the state influencing groups to rise up against the other groups.
Not all state function bad. Vaccine good. Is safe people for make benefit glorious nation.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
So excess death in R states is definitely from covid despite the seniors that are the most at risk being 90+% fully vaccinated but excess deaths for everyone else is a big question mark

LOL
COVID is absolutely one significant factor in R states overall having higher mortality figures during the pandemic, yes:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/fu...aff.2022.00085

Although there has been a growing excess death gap between R and D states for a couple decades prior aswell, given how terrible Republicans are at running things generally:

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom...ublican-party/

Of course if the killer vaccine was really the cause of all these excess deaths, then we should be seeing voters/areas with the highest vaccination rates seeing the biggest spikes in excess deaths. Given the actual rate of things like myocarditis in young people being infinitisemly small (like 0.0005-0.005% small, and non fatal in virtually every case) that obviously would explain why we don't see that:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2116999


So not only is observable reality the diametric opposite of whatever you wake up believing on a given day, more importantly you will have to find something other than the vaccine to blame for your terrible cardiovascular genetics.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So you're finally admitting there were negative effects with the lockdowns? Despite the fact that you supported the countries that had the harshest ones? Like Australia?
Why is it that you are incapable of answering the question?
Now tell me Dave, given the 150% higher excess deaths among Republican voters in some states post-vaccine availability, and the constantly increasing gap in death rates between R states and D states, whose approach to vaccination do you think was more successful overall?
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
OP and all the pro-COVID Republicans (save for nutsy) won't touch this. LMFAO!
what exactly does politics have to do with being lied to by medical professionals and big pharma? imagine being such an ideolog that you have to assign your medical decisions to what political party you're self assigned to lmaoooooooooo

my guy you need help if thats how youre making your medical decisions
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩




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ah yes a "study" made to make a political point. no way this is biased and manipulated.. nope couldn't be.... LMFAOOO
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
what exactly does politics have to do with being lied to by medical professionals and big pharma? imagine being such an ideolog that you have to assign your medical decisions to what political party you're self assigned to lmaoooooooooo

my guy you need help if thats how youre making your medical decisions
How do you know you've been lied to? What if it's the ones telling you the vaccines don't work that are lying?
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Originally Posted By Chadimir⏩
How do you know you've been lied to? What if it's the ones telling you the vaccines don't work that are lying?
Your English suddenly got really good. Wrong account? Dat you isingmodel?
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Your English suddenly got really good. Wrong account? Dat you Ising?
Is Google translate. Make good English. Serve Putin.
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Originally Posted By Chadimir⏩
How do you know you've been lied to? What if it's the ones telling you the vaccines don't work that are lying?
What are you talking about? Literally Pfizer Director said so.

Confirmed by cdc Director, and Fauci, and dr. Birx.

All on top of officials admitting on camera they count non covid deaths as covid deaths.

All on top of proven money incentives to overcount covid hospitalizations.

All on top of local officials later admitting they overcounted covid hospitalizations

All on top of doctors admitting they’d be fired if they went against current covid narrative.
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
What are you talking about? Literally Pfizer Director said so.

Confirmed by cdc Director, and Fauci, and dr. Birx.
So according to you the vaccines are unsafe? Billions have taken them with few issues.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Originally Posted By Chadimir⏩
So according to you the vaccines are unsafe? Billions have taken them with few issues.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That’s actually not what I said. But cool bro
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Just LOL, instant pivot from efficacy to safety.

Just imagine being a vaxcuck these days.
Also this lmao
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
Also this lmao
So you think they are safe but not effective?

Well, the hospital data showed they were pretty effective. But you think it's fake. Whatever.
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Originally Posted By Chadimir⏩
So you think they are safe but not effective?

Well, the hospital data showed they were pretty effective. But you think it's fake. Whatever.
My guy. Please read the thread bud. I’m not gonna hold your hand through 16 pages
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
My guy. Please read the thread bud. I’m not gonna hold your hand through 16 pages
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll read peer reviewed studies from medical scientists instead. Tunejunkie arguing on the misc forums of bb.com isn't really going to affect the scientific consensus on anything.
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