You can try to make it worth more than what it was, but I'm not going back and forth about this. If it helps your ego to think you got that date because of some super game wizardry you did, go ahead and believe it.

Lol negged. Not for disagreeing with me, but for doing so without justifying your position, at all. Which isn't surprising, because you can't rationally justify your position, because it's wrong.

As I've already said. My LMS gave me a shot with her, it got me the interview, I passed the interview because of what I'd said. It's a combination of factors, but believing that what I was writing played no part in getting her out on a date is ludicrous.

I didnt say you didnt use game - all I'm saying is you're trying to pass it off as some paramount, mind-blowing stuff. You want justification/critiques, well here's what I think:

In your DM, you tried to impress her with every single line (business this, money that). To most girls, that would come across as try hard and using money/business a crutch. Forcing in saying like a helicopter, business deals, sending a picture of a view, etc. just screams try hard and makes me cringe. You're right it establishes LMS, but if you say your profile is already positioned to display that, why do you need to force it in your messages to her? Your account should speak for itself.

Judging by how she types and responds, I'm assuming she's a foreign wide-eyed European girl who eats this gaudy behavior/talk up. This type of stuff will work on some girls yes, but don't try to market it as something more than it actually is. You're trying to make me believe you wouldn't have been able to get a date with her if you didnt showcase some busy, well-paid businessman persona to her. I dont think thats true, as I think you were too forceful with that approach and it came across as cringeworthy to me. Clearly, it worked on her, but I'm sure many girls will roll their eyes reading you forcing in those buzzwords. Again, if this is whats necessary to game women in your region, go ahead, but over here, I don't think so.

Correct. Every single line had a purpose.She isn't 'most' girls. She's a model, singer, actress with minor fame, alot of followers etc. Of course that would be overkill for some girl next door 6/10. That wasn't the question I was answering. I was answering 2 questions if you read what my post was a response to. 1. How do I get girls off Instagram? and2. How do I get the high caliber girls. The top 5% at least. Not how do I get your average 5 or 6.I agree completely. It makes me cringe every time I send it, but it took me a while to work out how to get these level of girls in a first class, global city, competing against guys who spend their weekends on yachts. Over the top DHV stacking was the method that consistently worked, out of all the methods I tried.

These are model caliber girls, in a top tier, international and extremely wealthy city. If you're hitting on kinda cute, students in a third tier city, yeah, sure, I agree, complete overkill and will seem out of place. You have to calibrate your approach to the girl and the location.It should, and it does to a certain degree, but I still have to say something. I have to run a conversation somehow, and I have to keep her interested. To high quality girls, in a wealthy global city, that stuff doesn't even seem like bragging, they just take it as 'matter of fact'. 'Oh you were in a helicopter and went up to wine country, cool, I did that last month, it's nice isn't it?'. DHV stacking is what works on these women.Wrong. She's a battle hardened Australian girl, born and raised, and works in the worst possible industries imaginable when it comes to male behavior, with the exception of perhaps the sex industry, (which industry did #metoo originally start in?). She's been propositioned at casting calls before etc.

The 'wide eyed naivety' coming across in her messages, was almost certainly an act. She is an actress afterall, and women play their games too.Calibrate your game to the type of girl you are approaching. This type of stuff is the most effective thing I've found for the really hot girls that have seen and heard it all.Let me be very clear in my position on this, I would almost certainly not have been able to get a date with her if I didn't come across as a busy, well-paid, important businessman OR some other stereotypical 'high status alpha' persona ie. a pro athlete, a producer, owning a modelling agency, a tv star etc.Having tried over and over again with these type of girls, and finally finding what worked. I sincerely disagree. The over the top, cringey, DHV stacking works with them, and it works very, well.Yes, to logical, rational men, it's cringeworthy I agree, but it's what works. Alot of things that work with women are extremely cringe worthy, but we are men, we're not the ones those behaviors are designed to win over.Absolutely, you have to calibrate your approach to the type of girl you're approaching. Try it on the top few percent of girls, and you'll probably be surprised how positive their reactions are. In any top tier city I've tried it in, it works with these types of girls.Again, where do you live?

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Actually I just went through the conversation again. There are only 2 messages out of our entire conversation that explicitly mention money/status, and 1 photo. And 1 message that perhaps implies it.

That's out of a fair few back and forth messages. There's alot of chit test passing and other game going on there, the DHV's are pretty much a fraction of the conversation right at the start (as they should be to establish higher value at the beginning and appeal to their hypergamous nature).

So my take on all of this is that either you don't have money or status and so are frustrated at the fact that others do and are leveraging it to get women (as they should) OR you are one of those looks trolls that believes that getting women is all about looks and thus hates anything that contradicts that view (not that I'm an ugly guy, but she's getting hit up by much better looking men than me).

Because you've essentially honed in and targeted a small fraction of the conversation and made it all about that, when there was much more going on there.

You must have a blonde white girl fixation if you think she’s a top tier girl. Yes she’s attractive but you putting her in the “top few %” because she can pay someone to take her photos or cause she appeared on a show is kind of a stretch.

You keep elevating her “status” to convince yourself (or us) that this was some major game operation you pulled off. Like I said, a girl with real top tier caliber would have seen right through that cringey bragging you were messaging. This just shows me she’s not at the level you want us to believe she’s at. It’s not me being a “rationale male” that lets me think it’s try hard approach. Try that in NYC with a girl who’s actually exposed to that lifestyle and those types of men, and you’d get nowhere with that act. The rest of your stuff is fine but it’s not something you’d only “reserve for the most top tier” women. It looked about standard stuff to me. Again, not saying it’s not game but nothing about it came across as someone’s best stuff reserved for the best women.

LMS isn’t an issue for me so none of this is frustration or envy. To me this looks like the type of situation where you’re high off of a number pull/date and you’re extremely inflating her value. All I’m saying is: good job but let’s not get carried away with ourselves.

Didn't read all the TLDR **** above. However prop's for BRB for showing us his game, really appreciate.
The girls is far from the average girl we all can have, she's pretty and doesn't look like an IG slut.

I do appreciate the ****est and how you respond to it. I read the convo and replied myself like I was you, and fell in the ****ests everytime. Your "because those cocktails won't drink themselves" to "why do you want to meet" at first place is gold and classy. You then reply to it later to not appear like a serial ****er, well done from A to Z. Love the vibe, nice stuff. Thanks for sharing it

Actually I much prefer brunettes, at the end of the day though, I will happily go out with any attractive girl that will have me after hitting up hundreds. Because that's how things work here. Granted it's alot easier elsewhere (like NYC), but from my experience women of that looks level and above tend to be tough everywhere, unless you get lucky.She's top few percent in looks because if you walk around a city for a day (except maybe some EE cities perhaps) she would be in the top 5 girls out of 100 you see. Hell, I can even go and sit in a University campus and watch 100 girls walk by and the vast majority of them would be overweight, unattractive/plain, crazy feminist looking etc.That's interesting. Because I have approached other models, heiresses etc. girls with very rich (sometimes 'famous' fathers etc.) with the same approach and it's worked. It's the male equivalent of a hot girl flashing her tits and ass all over Instagram for attention, you may look at it and think it's transparent and cringey, but you still want to phuck her, and it's going to get her a hell of alot more followers/attention than some equally hot girl dressing conservatively.I disagree from my experience in NYC. In fact NYC is a walk in the park compared to here. I don't even need to pull that chit in NYC and it's probably overkill more than anything else because it's so easy there. I just need to tell them to come over. It is that easy. In terms of quality online there it was really slim pickings. There was the odd model, one asked me out, but I didn't have time to wine and dine.

So I was just content picking the low hanging fruit during my time there. Do you live in NYC? If you do it will explain some of this because NYC is like another world, I'd estimate it's at least 10x easier to get laid there than here based on my experience.

However the quality online in NYC SUCKS, and girls in general in NYC from just walking around the streets tend to look quite plain. It's the land of the 7's so to speak. Which I found interesting. Perhaps all the models are hiding at exclusive clubs, and because I'm an outsider there I have no access to them. There weren't many online from my experience. If you live in NYC and are consistently getting very hot girls from online, perfect, please tell us where you are finding them and how you are getting them?Ok... Well, this is my best stuff for online game, but clearly you are on another level. That's awesome, help me improve. Post up some of your conversations now, closes and pics of the girls.Cool, then you must be dating truly amazing girls. Please tell us how you do it, with examples and pics.Ok great. Now post something worthwhile. If you have something of value to offer, please by all means, now is the time to post it.

Obviously you're someone that is so accustomed to dating beautiful women with total ease that you must be doing things way better than me, or have alot more going for you. So please tell us:
1. Where do you live? So that I can visit this place where girls like that aren't considered anything special looks wise
2. Post up some of your closes so I can see how I should be doing things
3. Post up the photos of those girls so that I can see how to get the truly 'top tier' girls that alas, are out of my reach because they are all dating celebrities/pro athletes etc. or guys that are dropping $1000+ a week on them
4. Tell us what external factors you have working for you that allow you to get with the volume of gorgeous women you clearly must get with from online sources. Are you an Instagram celebrity? Extremely good looking? Have an insanely attractive lifestyle? Spending a heap of money on the pursuit? etc.

I think it's great that you think what I've posted is nothing special, because obviously you have a heap to offer all of us and this thread has been dead for so long because online has become so hard going. It's good to finally see someone who must be having success with beautiful girls from it. Please show us how you're doing it.

I'm in NYC, but my game doesn't revolve around the approach you're using. It's very direct and to the point. You will learn nothing from my closes because they are so straightforward; but I am also not marketing my closes like they're some gospel approach either. Simply, I'm not running your high-end image style game online because I don't think it's necessary.

For high end women (high-end - not simply attractive women) in NYC, you meet those women out and about (clubs, high-end gyms, etc.) and you need to be ready to invest time/money to do so. The ones that are actually online are primarily using it to build their social media presence (in 2018). I don't spend my time messaging these women on IG because I dont think the effort is worth it. If you want to meet women like that, I think you need to go out in the world and do it.

Now, attractive women? Sure, I message and meet them by using direct game and no added fluff. It's just not my style online. In person, I do adapt more to attract that caliber of women depending where I go out (Suit, Rolex, expensive shoes, etc.). Just online I don' t lead with that type of persona.

I think you're conflating the idea of an attractive woman with a high-end girl which I what I was pointing out by saying a lot of what you did was overkill. It's good you developed your own system online to put yourself in a position to meet women you consider top tier/high-end. I just think from what I read, all of it was not necessary to get the end goal you were after. If you still do, let's agree to disagree.

Naturally, and this basically explains everything.Very costly in terms of time, and like you said, takes money too. I'm offering a method that works, and doesn't require all of that.SameHaving been to NYC and having gamed in NYC. Let me explain something for you that guys in NYC don't seem to understand.

When you say things are overkill because you can be direct with attractive girls and easily get them out on dates etc. It would be like a guy in Manila telling you that opening or approaching girls is overkill. 'Just let them message you, anything other than giving them your address is overkill'.

Guess what I did in NYC?I promise you it was. NYC guys really have no concept of how tough some other cities are. If you are a decent looking guy you can literally message girls 'Drinks?' in NYC and land multiple dates a week with attractive women. A male model struggles to do that here.

whats up brahs and silencespeaks. What u all been up too? Has the tinder game gotten much worse this year?

Im glad I am off that. So much more time to waste elsewhere.

Hey ineed$ whatsup bro ? Long time no see, what have u been up too ?

#careerwomen

Thanks to misc I started slaying left and right

is there a link or place i can download all the meme's used in these threads?

Hey bros just getting back in the game, smashed 12 sloots this year so far but it's inconsistent

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I'd get rid of pics 1 and 5. The rest are good.

Any thoughts on this as my primary picture? I just got it recently and thought it might be a solid one to lead with.

What the fuk do you do when girls ignore EVERY question and just make statements or ask you stuff?
like I asked this girl 5 questions. Simple questions and she doesnt answer. fukn retard
just gonna ask her out but it seems like a stupid fukn idea if she cant answer simple questions

i assume minimal interest and next her

dont be a fukin tard and call her after she avoided every question. thats how you get entitled girls like the one above who said that she always has the upper hand

Spade, whats your rum & juice recipe?


also..that dude that quotes every sentence of someones post and responds to it is fukking annoying. you dont have to quote every single sentence. holy hell dude.

Sigh,

broke up with my girlfriend of 18 months. Here we go again. Hi guys.

Tind3r doesn't seem to work anymore on my web browser - what is the best way to get this on your computer? Can't ****in stand thumb typing.

I heard 6tin works but have been struggling to install.

Hope this thread is still lively.

I need someone to hijack and remodel my Tinder. Or maybe I'm just a worthless good for nothing fat ugly piece of garbage that doesn't deserve any Tinder matches

they've released an official webbased version.https://tinder.com/

Jesus christ have I wasted a lot of time this last month. Thank you.

Haha hey. Glad to see you're still here.

What happened - is there anywhere to legit talk about tinder? Or just a general dilution.

lmfaoooo

i can pm it to you but how would you be able to log in if i used my phone number lol

Tinder is dead for me. Same damn profile, bio, and I'm getting ZERO matches for WEEKS, almost months.

Using the same damn pics/approach that got me sugar walls many times before.

I used to get matched with my superlikes pretty consistently, now I'm lucky to get 1 in 10 srs.

Can be bothered to create a new ********, add 50 friends, and get a new phone just get my profile seen again.

Incel life for me brahs, fuk it.

my bad chad. so i should just post pics of my pictures and my bio?