But all that still doesnt change people getting shot here every single day.

Lets just install a police office in every school, that would work.

But it's also ridiculous, and obviously not a solution most sane people want. We don't want our schools to be maximum security loaded with guns

What other PRODUCTIVE use do guns have besides KILLING. Lol I was once blind as you.

partial fabrication by /pol/ ?

Heavy confirms the makarov ig w/ the MAGA cap was his as well. Which explains why it was deleted shortly after his IDing.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180214...ascruzmakarov/
The Heavy articlehttps://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nicol...man-instagram/

What other PRODUCTIVE use do guns have besides KILLING. Lol I was once blind as you.

Yeah, having a school resource officer (police officer) or two at a school is just ridiculous...I mean who the **** wants to be near a police officer?

protection against the imminemnt government invasion

Yeah, having a school resource officer (police officer) or two at a school is just ridiculous...I mean who the **** wants to be near a police officer?

If random people on the internet had the golden solution, it would already be in law.

These issues and solutions are complicated and you dont need to have a master place to know something needs to be done to help. You just need at least a peanut sized brain, which most gun nuts dont have apparently

You support putting forth half ass ideas based on nothing but feels with no clue what it is you are putting forth? Makes sense.

Nobody is stupid enough to think gun's are the only way to kill people. Name me a legal and more accessible/effective way to kill a mass group of people.

Yes it is. We shouldnt have to do this, is the entire point. The fact that we need to shows something is wrong no other civilized nation needs that

What other PRODUCTIVE use do guns have besides KILLING. Lol I was once blind as you.

"da gubment" is not coming to kill you, and even if they were they would win regardless of your rifle. They have access to way more sh*t than you do.

I dont support putting forth any ideas, I am not claiming to know what the solution would be. I'm merely acknowledging the reality that something needs to be done, and you can't do that. Sad

Lol I’m assuming that’s sarcasm

I dont support putting forth any ideas, I am not claiming to know what the solution would be. I'm merely acknowledging the reality that something needs to be done, and you can't do that. Sad

One of the prerequisites for a rational discussion on public policy is understanding the actions you would have to take to effect a solution.

Let's consider "stopping school shootings by banning guns".

1. You would have to outlaw all guns. No grandfathering, no allowing some guns will disallowing others, you'd have to ban them all.
2. You'd have to go and get them, and you'd have to use armed teams of police to do so, from every house and place of business in the country. Every single one. Since there's no gun registry, you'd have to literally search every building in the United States, and you still wouldn't get them all. You'd have to violate the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights of every single American.
3. You'd have to shoot the people who resisted, who would number tens of thousands if not millions. All of them. If they numbered in the millions, you'd be dealing with a civil war.
4. After your civil war, with millions dead, atrocities surely committed, and our society literally in ashes, you'd have to put the pieces back together.

If you don't want to do all that, you have two alternatives:

1. Recognize that you live in a country with 300 mn people and 400 mn guns and accept that some of those 300 mn people are bad. Avoid creating large concentrations of defenseless victims by actually letting people be armed in public and/or having law enforcement where there are large concentrations of such defenseless people.

2. Stick your head in the sand on the issue and only take it out to cry about how America "needs" gun control.

A truck? That guy in Paris caused a higher death count than any mass shooting in the US

No other civilized nation has law enforcement at their schools? Are you going to stick to that claim?

This will need to be done in a gradual process.
step 1: Stop the sale of all guns and ammunition.
step 2: impose heavy fines/punishment for anyone seen with a gun
step 3: As gun numbers diminish, ammunition runs out as well, you can set up police force to crackdown on illegal weaponry
step 4: analyze situation make and make further changes accordingly

This will need to be done in a gradual process.
step 1: Stop the sale of all guns and ammunition.
step 2: impose heavy fines/punishment for anyone seen with a gun
step 3: As gun numbers diminish, ammunition runs out as well, you can set up police force to crackdown on illegal weaponry
step 4: analyze situation make and make further changes accordingly

One of the prerequisites for a rational discussion on public policy is understanding the actions you would have to take to effect a solution.

Let's consider "stopping school shootings by banning guns".

1. You would have to outlaw all guns. No grandfathering, no allowing some guns will disallowing others, you'd have to ban them all.
2. You'd have to go and get them, and you'd have to use armed teams of police to do so, from every house and place of business in the country. Every single one. Since there's no gun registry, you'd have to literally search every building in the United States, and you still wouldn't get them all. You'd have to violate the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights of every single American.
3. You'd have to shoot the people who resisted, who would number tens of thousands if not millions. All of them. If they numbered in the millions, you'd be dealing with a civil war.
4. After your civil war, with millions dead, atrocities surely committed, and our society literally in ashes, you'd have to put the pieces back together.

If you don't want to do all that, you have two alternatives:

1. Recognize that you live in a country with 300 mn people and 400 mn guns and accept that some of those 300 mn people are bad. Avoid creating large concentrations of defenseless victims by actually letting people be armed in public and/or having law enforcement where there are large concentrations of such defenseless people.

2. Stick your head in the sand on the issue and only take it out to cry about how America "needs" gun control.

Step 1: Civil war

Good luck with that.


But hey, it's cool to see another account throw away all of human history and ignore that the majority of murders have been committed by governments, including mass murders of literally millions.

Super tragic, I can’t imagine how the parents of the kids murdered must be feeling right now. He’s alive hopefully they run some test on him and we can learn something from this. What if it’s actually something in the water?? Also did they release a motive? Just now reading about this.

Everyone will start shooting each other as soon as a ban is put in place?, so they will sacrifice the life of their families and risk any future for their kidsa and grand children because of some mechnacial killing tool?

I beg to differ.

ban all guns, but do it gradually.

He was a known threat. He had made threats to students and was already not allowed on campus wearing a backpack.

Strong school security is strong. But hey it was a gun free zone so no way he could bring a gun there