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post 1678893953 03-13-2023, 03:53 PM
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Jesus's death was symbolic of the Old Law dying, and being reborn the new law was born...
post 1678894013 03-13-2023, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Well...

Something from nothing is already impossible.

Nothing should come from nothing.


So you say.. omniscient, omnipotent, etc. is impossible.
And I say something from nothing is also impossible.

But here we are... something from nothing.

It's impossible, but here we are.

So something from nothing... it should be impossible... but here we are.
Not sure about that. Your God had to come from nothing too.

I don't think it's actually impossible. We already know a lot can come from a vaccuum. Of course, a true nothing is different. The idea that at some point, something must have come from nothing assumes a kind of global timeline. And whether your God exists or not doesn't change that. We can just ask where this God came from.
post 1678894163 03-13-2023, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It helps to have a Dad who actually talks to you and doesn't punish you severely for not worshipping him. Doesn't seem a particularly healthy family dynamic brah.

Also, God being a single parent is pretty lulz.
Well, I actually don't have a good relationship with my dad.

My family isn't particularly religious.

Even though I didn't grow up in a christian household,

I still believe in Jesus Christ. I lean on my heavenly father.

PRAiSE WHITE JEsUS
post 1678894543 03-13-2023, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Not sure about that. Your God had to come from nothing too.

I don't think it's actually impossible. We already know a lot can come from a vaccuum. Of course, a true nothing is different. The idea that at some point, something must have come from nothing assumes a kind of global timeline. And whether your God exists or not doesn't change that. We can just ask where this God came from.
Okay, do you accept Jesus as your lord and savior?

Salvation is by grace through faith.

Do you accept white Jesus into your heart?

PRAiSE WHITE JEsUS
post 1678895183 03-13-2023, 04:17 PM
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Why are we still trying to convince a loser on a genetic level?

I've already proven without a shadow of a doubt that you cannot convert a genetic loser like wincel. Uggus and manlets will never accept God because they can't even accept themselves.

Everything after my posts has been a waste of time.
post 1678897063 03-13-2023, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It helps to have a Dad who actually talks to you and doesn't punish you severely for not worshipping him. Doesn't seem a particularly healthy family dynamic brah.

Also, God being a single parent is pretty lulz.
glad you've got a better idea than the most successful source of wisdom in human history for this. What was your strategy again?
post 1678897583 03-13-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
glad you've got a better idea than the most successful source of wisdom in human history for this. What was your strategy again?
Strategy for what?
post 1678897683 03-13-2023, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Well, I actually don't have a good relationship with my dad.

My family isn't particularly religious.

Even though I didn't grow up in a christian household,

I still believe in Jesus Christ. I lean on my heavenly father.

PRAiSE WHITE JEsUS
I get that. And it is fine to have religion and if it helps you, great. All I ask is they don't push it on others. We should have separation of church and state.
post 1678897783 03-13-2023, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Okay, do you accept Jesus as your lord and savior?

Salvation is by grace through faith.

Do you accept white Jesus into your heart?

PRAiSE WHITE JEsUS
Nope. But I think most of what he allegedly said is ok. Seemed a decent guy mostly -- you know, minus the whole "obey or be damned" chit.
post 1678898873 03-13-2023, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Strategy for what?
A clear point seems how to create good fathers since that makes a difference.
post 1678898993 03-13-2023, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
A clear point seems how to create good fathers since that makes a difference.
Does the bible teach people how to be good fathers? IDK.
post 1678906143 03-13-2023, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By CondorChang⏩
Why are we still trying to convince a loser on a genetic level?

I've already proven without a shadow of a doubt that you cannot convert a genetic loser like wincel. Uggus and manlets will never accept God because they can't even accept themselves.

Everything after my posts has been a waste of time.
Wrong
post 1678906843 03-13-2023, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Does the bible teach people how to be good fathers? IDK.
Christian principles seem necessary, and I don't know any other source successfully addressing these, certainly not in as efficient a way.

I'm sure the process could improve somehow
post 1678907493 03-13-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
Christian principles seem necessary, and I don't know any other source successfully addressing these, certainly not in as efficient a way.

I'm sure the process could improve somehow
Plenty of books on parenting...
post 1678907753 03-13-2023, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Plenty of books on parenting...
None as good as The Bible.
post 1678907803 03-13-2023, 08:37 PM
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post 1678908033 03-13-2023, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
you are such a fukin weirdo. where do you even find this chit?
Can't imagine your search history.
post 1678908463 03-13-2023, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
sounds based
post 1678909553 03-13-2023, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
None as good as The Bible.
You need to get it through your head that no one reads it out of 7 billion people.

They don't read it, live it, or follow it, even if they say they do.

That's the answer to the thread question.

Civilization is what it is and never was based on the Bible because no one reads or lives this thing.

The goal of Christians has always been to get people to read and follow the Bible, but they never have so Christians keep bringing up the same topic and advocating for people to read and follow the Bible...BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T.

That is easy to see and agree with.
If you want to ask me a question:

Ask: TheAdlerian

http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=150655983&p=1000366043#post1000366043

Read my science fiction novel:

http://www.amazon.com/Echelon-Adlerian-ebook/dp/B00RCFFTKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419640250&sr=8-1&keywords=Echelon+the+adlerian
post 1678909723 03-13-2023, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
You need to get it through your head that no one reads it out of 7 billion people.

They don't read it, live it, or follow it, even if they say they do.

That's the answer to the thread question.

Civilization is what it is and never was based on the Bible because no one reads or lives this thing.

The goal of Christians has always been to get people to read and follow the Bible, but they never have so Christians keep bringing up the same topic and advocating for people to read and follow the Bible...BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T.

That is easy to see and agree with.
You need to get it through your head that just because you surround yourself with a bunch of fukin degenerates in Philly, there are a chit load of people that actually do read the Bible, go to Church, and live what they preach.


Just because you don't view it on mSM, or see it happening in your circle, does not mean it is not happening.

There are thousands, millions, following Christ, imagine being so ignorant that thinking just because you personally do not see something, that "something" does not exist.
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Originally Posted By Paul
You need to get it through your head that just because you surround yourself with a bunch of fukin degenerates in Philly, there are a chit load of people that actually do read the Bible, go to Church, and live what they preach.


Just because you don't view it on mSM, or see it happening in your circle, does not mean it is not happening.

There are thousands, millions, following Christ, imagine being so ignorant that thinking just because you personally do not see something, that "something" does not exist.
single women do not really take religion seriously in many cases.

Plenty of men do and can organize coherently with the idea.

Most who dislike christian ideas literally only live to troll, so getting one over by some out of context fallacy is the goal of this conversation, not arguing whether this is the true way fruitful life adds up or not.
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Originally Posted By Paul
You need to get it through your head that just because you surround yourself with a bunch of fukin degenerates in Philly, there are a chit load of people that actually do read the Bible, go to Church, and live what they preach.


Just because you don't view it on mSM, or see it happening in your circle, does not mean it is not happening.

There are thousands, millions, following Christ, imagine being so ignorant that thinking just because you personally do not see something, that "something" does not exist.
He squatted 1000 pounds with ease ....
post 1678910093 03-13-2023, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
He squatted 1000 pounds with ease ....
I'm sure
post 1678910213 03-13-2023, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
single women do not really take religion seriously in many cases.

Plenty of men do and can organize coherently with the idea.

Most who dislike christian ideas literally only live to troll, so getting one over by some out of context fallacy is the goal of this conversation, not arguing whether this is the true way fruitful life adds up or not.
I know.
No one here really wants to know if God is real or not, they just chit post, but end up making themselves look more ignorant than they already have. Take the copy/pasta king for example Wincel (TaiMaiSchutze).
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It has nothing to do with the prayer. My point is about how God would observe time for the universe.
Probably the answer looks like how you and your brother ask your parents for something.

You're asking the wrong question if it does not involve a conversation you share with your brother.
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