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post 1696522913 01-17-2024, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By thursdayParty1
There's a huge discrepancy of what women say they want, and what they actually want. There's a huge demographic of sloots saying they like dadbods ffs
'correct, but this supports what I'm saying. If you ask most women they virtue signal and claim they arent that picky on looks and try to make themselves sound less shallow. And then what they actually do is chase the stereotypically attractive men regardless of all the other traits they claimed to care about.

Women's ACTIONS confirm everything I'm saying. That's why on dating apps they swipe on the same 10% of men. That's revealed preference, not simply lip service.
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
Based on this premise, every single woman in society is dating up or single being chads side piece..
No, this is stupid absolutist nonsense. There are exceptions to everything but what I'm saying is the general trend. There are obviously still normal women with normal standards but they're much fewer and farer between and there's not nearly enough to go around for all the normies. And those women usually go quick because they're reasonable and dont need 1000 dcicks to find someone to be with.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
This is a myth. Attraction is not weighted average of all your traits. There are certain gatekeeping filters that are dealbreakers regardless of anything else, primarily looks, height, and race.

If you dont look good enough to her, nothing you do matters.

If you're too short for her, nothing you do matters.

If you're Asian and she wants white guys, nothing you do matters.

it is mindblowing that some of you still dont understand this
*Initial attraction is not a weighted average of all your traits for very obvious reasons. An initial "filter" IRL does not mean the gate being kept is closed to you entirely and forever.
post 1696523643 01-17-2024, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzdnpress
Not sure why any of these retards don't understand what's going on right now

ANY single women can use a dating app and treat it like DoorDash and Uber Eats. She can easily download an app and order a Chad to her house any time she wants
Hilariously delusional.
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Originally Posted By Muzzdnpress
Cope. If a girls standards are"I only date guys that are 6'0 and up" there's very little you can do to win her over IRL

If a girl says"I only date whites guys",there's almost nothing you can do to change her mind
First bolded excerpt is a meme that basically only applies IRL to tall girls who don't want shorter guys. Your typical 5'4 - 5'7 girl is not turning down a 5'10 guy because he's not two inches taller without shoes on.

Second bolded part is a legitimate preference, and most people prefer to date within their race. So, find girls of your race or whose attraction is not limited to guys of one particular race.



Edit: You seem to have deleted your picture-heavy post that started with the "dadbod" comparison. I don't see the issue. Just put in the absolutely minimal effort required to achieve the DiCaprio physique you posted rather than looking like fatass Rogen.
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
Many girls under 5'5 have a very strict 6'0 and up standard
A) No, they don't. B) Even if they did, there aren't enough 6'0+ guys to go around, and those girls aren't remaining celibate and single for life as a consequence of that, so someone is getting them eventually.
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
Nope, not delusional

Try catfishing on a dating app with pictures of a 5/10 girl. You'll quickly realize you'll be matching with 7.5/10+ dudes and they'll message you wanting to meet up

Hell, I tried doing this with a 1/10 morbidly obese woman once and I have hundreds of matches with average dudes down to meet up with the 1/10 pig.

Dating apps is like grocery shopping for any sloot
Post a picture of a 5/10 girl and a 7.5/10 guy for reference.
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
Many girls under 5'5 have a very strict 6'0 and up standard
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
A) Among Gen Z, yes they do. Go on TikTok or download dating app and flip your settings to the 18-22 range. You'll notice most women have "6'0 or swipe left" in their bios.

B) There are plenty of 6'0 guys to go around. These guys have rotations and most Gen Z girls are happy to be on a rotation of a top tier guy
The amount of women who would explicitly state " 6 ft or swipe left " would be a extremely small minority- also you don't want those types anyways .
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
A) Among Gen Z, yes they do. Go on TikTok or download dating app and flip your settings to the 18-22 range. You'll notice most women have "6'0 or swipe left" in their bios.

B) There are plenty of 6'0 guys to go around. These guys have rotations and most Gen Z girls are happy to be on a rotation of a top tier guy
Being 6'0 does not make one a "top tier guy." You seem to have this weird idea that people become "Chad" and obtain rotations of girls by being slightly taller than you. Most guys, even guys who are 6'5, do not have rotations of cute girls they're smashing. I have several pretty good-looking, charismatic friends in the 6'3 - 6'5 range. None of them has ever had a "rotation," and they are now in LTRs with pretty average looking girls (albeit in shape rather than overweight).

I wouldn't even bother putting my height in a bio on a dating app if I were so concerned about it, particularly being slightly above average height like you say you are. If some 5'5 girl demands to know your height, ghost the shallow bish. If you actually meet up, a 5'5 girl is not going to know or care that you're 5'11 with shoes on instead of 6'0 without. Other factors will predominate.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
Even if they did, there aren't enough 6'0+ guys to go around, and those girls aren't remaining celibate and single for life as a consequence of that, so someone is getting them eventually.
lol you're so out of touch. The hot tall guys can fuk countless women on rotation. Many of those women would rather do that than marry beta bob she's not attracted to.
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
Those are the girls that explicity state it. Many women won't say it out loud but have those standards internally

I know so many women who say "height doesn't matter" yet their boyfriend is 6'4
Well...you even said you are 5.10 ...which isn't a bad height. It won't hinder you. So if height is so important and being short means it's over for u , why aren't u getting laid then?
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
Average 5/10 Girl :



Average 7.5 Guy :




The 5/10 girl will ignore her looksmatch 5/10 guy :
LOL. That girl is 100% not ignoring the "5/10" guy in your example. I see girls like her all the time whose boyfriends are not as attractive as either of the guys you posted. I probably wouldn't be a 7.5+ in your view, and I absolutely would not look twice at that girl.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
Second bolded part is a legitimate preference, and most people prefer to date within their race. So, find girls of your race or whose attraction is not limited to guys of one particular race.
wrong, most women prefer their own race OR white men as much if not more.

That means white men are at a significant advantage because the vast majority of women will not reject them on race alone.

The vast majority of ethnic men are limited to a subset of their own race, because much of their own race will be gunning for white men.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
lol you're so out of touch. The hot tall guys can fuk countless women on rotation. Many of those women would rather do that than marry beta bob she's not attracted to.
Except the "hot tall guys" are smashing hot girls and not totally average or somewhat busted looking girls who may be somewhat overweight, which is your target demographic at best.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
LOL. That girl is 100% not ignoring the "5/10" guy in your example.
lol, that kind of girl can be getting fuked at will by much hotter guys than 5s.

And if and when she does want a 5, she will have access to 1000000 of them and be extremly hard to settle and lock down.

You're absolutely clueless.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
Except the "hot tall guys" are smashing hot girls and not totally average or somewhat busted looking girls who may be somewhat overweight, which is your target demographic at best.
There arent that many hot girls to go around for every single time Chad wants to bust a nut. And those hot girls have a lot more options too and arent as easy to get. These chads with insane body counts are not fuking 1000 super models, they're mostly fuking average to above average women who make it easy for them by coming right over and expecting nothing but to service him.

And then those women refuse to lower her standards after getting the Chad experience even just a few times.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
lol, that kind of girl can be getting fuked at will by much hotter guys than 5s.

And if and when she does want a 5, she will have access to 1000000 of them and be extremly hard to settle and lock down.

You're absolutely clueless.
Has it ever occurred to you that some women regardless of rating aren't relentless whores that want to take multiple men in a week regardless of how hot or attractive the man is ?

Most women prefer to have one dude bro
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
There arent that many hot girls to go around for every single time Chad wants to bust a nut. And those hot girls have a lot more options too and arent as easy to get. These chads with insane body counts are not fuking 1000 super models, they're mostly fuking average to above average women who make it easy for them by coming right over and expecting nothing but to service him.

And then those women refuse to lower her standards after getting the Chad experience even just a few times.
Then why the fk would you even want to be involved in that scene or concern yourself with it.

I am dating a girl around my age 30 ~ her body count is 5. You don't think she could jump on apps and fk a guy tonight? She'd lose me if she did.


Gotta provide value somewhere buddy
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy
Has it ever occurred to you that some women regardless of rating aren't relentless whores that want to take multiple men in a week regardless of how hot or attractive the man is ?

Most women prefer to have one dude bro
yea and those women get taken up quick and arent the ones floating around available. A woman with reasonable standards who just wants one guy will find one so fuking easily right now, they are rarely on the market.
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy
Then why the fk would you even want to be involved in that scene or concern yourself with it.
because being single my entire life and never have sex is worse.
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy
Has it ever occurred to you that some women regardless of rating aren't relentless whores that want to take multiple men in a week regardless of how hot or attractive the man is ?

Most women prefer to have one dude bro
These guys live in a total fantasy and have a super warped and unhealthy view of women. Elliot Rodger vibes. They post a somewhat busted looking girl like above and claim she's got a bunch of Chads at her fingertips. It's absurd.

Girls far more attractive than her have complained to me they can't find guys interested in them. Can they find some guy who is DTF pretty quickly? Sure. Do they actually do that in real life on any kind of regular basis? Absolutely not. They instead complain that POS guys on the apps send them dik pics, while what they are trying to find is a decent guy to be in a relationship with.
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy
No they were not. At the end the day $$ makes the world turn , not p*ssy.

Where are these men you speak? Outside of BS redderict on forums like these .


If a guy is gonna completely give up and ROT bc he couldn't get a gf probably wasn't chit in the first place or capable of making a meaningful contribution
Why do you think men spend so much time and energy pursuing money? It’s for gash.
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Originally Posted By TheCore84
Why do you think men spend so much time and energy pursuing money? It’s for gash.
Because it's a measure of success- what else is there really to do . $ is a way to keep score
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
There arent that many hot girls to go around for every single time Chad wants to bust a nut. And those hot girls have a lot more options too and arent as easy to get. These chads with insane body counts are not fuking 1000 super models, they're mostly fuking average to above average women who make it easy for them by coming right over and expecting nothing but to service him.

And then those women refuse to lower her standards after getting the Chad experience even just a few times.
I have news for you. Chad faps too. You live in a fantasy world if you truly believe that the typical guy of above average attractiveness can just pick up the phone and get a cute girl over to his place (or go to hers) every time he wants to "bust a nut." There is a decent chance you'd consider me to be something like "Chad lite," and while I've had a FWB or two from time to time, these girls are not just on call day and night. If you aren't famous or an attractive star college athlete, odds are you are in the same boat as most other guys most of the time.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
These guys live in a total fantasy and have a super warped and unhealthy view of women. Elliot Rodger vibes. They post a somewhat busted looking girl like above and claim she's got a bunch of Chads at her fingertips. It's absurd.

Girls far more attractive than her have complained to me they can't find guys interested in them. Can they find some guy who is DTF pretty quickly? Sure. Do they actually do that in real life on any kind of regular basis? Absolutely not. They instead complain that POS guys on the apps send them dik pics, while what they are trying to find is a decent guy to be in a relationship with.
Exactly . Outside of dudes just wanting to smash girls don't have that many viable options .


90 % of men would smash a plane Jane if horny enough...but how many of those men would take her on a legit dinner date ? Not many

Sure girls can find sex easy , but anyone with an ounce of self respect is going to get tired of being used for sex.
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy
Because it's a measure of success- what else is there really to do . $ is a way to keep score
Consciously, nobody works hard to get rich just to stay a virgin. Men with no prospects lose most if not all motivation.

Subconsciously, almost everything we do is motivated by sex, its built in to our biology which is almost solely concerned with reproduction.
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Originally Posted By Muzzdopress
Any girl who complains that she can't find guys interested in her is ignoring 90% of men

Any girl in 2024 can find a guy on her level that would be interested in her.
There is more to it than being approximately looks-matched. Lots of guys are fuking losers or come off weird or too aggressive/desperate. They aren't immediately rejected by these girls based on looks, but the girls pass on them once they realize the guy is dumb, a loser, seems single-mindedly interested in meeting up to have sex very early on, etc.
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Originally Posted By bradlehman
I have news for you. Chad faps too. You live in a fantasy world if you truly believe that the typical guy of above average attractiveness can just pick up the phone andget a cute girlover to his place (or go to hers) every time he wants to "bust a nut."
This is my entire point retard. Yes, he cant always get a hot/cute girl, but he can get A GIRL. Maybe she's average or so but if he wants to fuk a girl over fap, he can get a girl whenever he wants and often its not necessarily anyone that hot. But if Chad wants to fuk tonight, he's going to pick the best he can get and fuk. If tonight that means a 5/10, he's going to fuk her.

Hell, there are men far better looking than I who have fuked fat girls before cause they were horny and they didnt care. My ugly azz wouldnt even fuk a fatty but I know 7/10 white guys that have done it many times. Men like to fuk and they will do it even if the girl isnt that great.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
This is my entire point retard. Yes, he cant always get a hot/cute girl, but he can get A GIRL. Maybe she's average or so but if he wants to fuk a girl over fap, he can get a girl whenever he wants and often its not necessarily anyone that hot. But if Chad wants to fuk tonight, he's going to pick the best he can get.

Hell, there are men far better looking than I have who have fuked fat girls before cause they were horny and they didnt care. My ugly azz wouldnt even fuk a fatty but I know 7/10 white guys that have done it many times. Men like to fuk and they will do it even if the girl isnt that great.
I think you really overestimate how often "hot" guys are desperate enough to fuk unattractive girls unless they're wasted and don't fully realize it. Some attractive guys have fetish-like preferences for "thick" (fat) girls for whatever reason or have low standards and impulse control, but the majority of them are not banging fatties when they're sitting around the house and get horny.

It seems like you get your understanding of what life is like for people far more attractive than you from reading accounts written by other incels who dream this chit up.
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