that's what i do but people humble bragging about home ownership like it makes them super cool gives me the ick.

Ick? You sound like a foid who did you inherit your homes from

one day you too can take a picture holding a big key...with your real estate agent by your side and some witty caption like "i said yes to the address"

The only appeal of homeownership is securing an appreciating asset. Other than that I’d be perfectly content to rent for the rest of my life. Less hassle. Condos seem like a decent compromise.

Bought a home way younger than most but I wanna buy a nicer one still waiting for ollies big crash

Don't you live in the city in the Northeast? If so I'm sure that's all you know. If you ever actually had a suburb to be in it's way better than renting or living in a condo in the midtown or downtown of some mega city where your next door neighbor can complain, or you have to listen to them having sex or them hearing you, checking in through a gate every time you want to enter and leave, never knowing who's coming over from a neighbor that might be a shit bag that trashes people's cars etc etc. And your reward is like a 3 ft deep pool that the whole community jumps in on and crowds around every weekend in the summer.

It's the way it's going though. Men live in their own homes and take care of things as needed (lol how hard is it to cut your grass for an hour on Sat morning and go about your day?), chicks all buy townhouses or condos so they don't have to do anything or pay anybody to do anything, and the rest that want to deal with the crap above rent. I would never want to live in the heart of a major city so I don't relate at all. I like the suburbs.

i would actually say suburb subdivisions are about as depressing as apartments...maybe more.

Why? We're not in the midst of shit, protests, traffic, having to pay for parking, and live a normal quieter life in a much better place not surrounded by buildings and if we ever feel the need to go into the city we're only like 20-30 min away. You can't really escape the city shit on a daily basis if you live there, but you can go there any time you please from the suburbs just 30 min drive away. Most of the ones I know that live in the city try to escape it to the lakes, mountains, suburbs and nice areas that are rich any chance they can get on the weekends.

Unless you buy new construction. Literally shit to do every weekend and the days go by quick it's fucking annoying after a while. Getting tired of dealing with it to the more income we generate....up to 470k now and I'm two seconds away from selling fucking everything and living in a nice condo where my biggest fucking worry Friday night is what hobby I'm going to partake in Saturday morning while I fucking destroy my girls pussy slapping my low hanging balls against her clit as I'm balls deep making her squak like an Osprey.

I love my house, but I also love the fact I rent it for less than half of what it would cost monthly to own.

Just last week my AC went and I had a guy in to fix it, cost me nothing. And the landlord replaced the furnace this past winter to the tune of $9k. Replaced an entire shower base because it wasn't draining properly two years ago.

Condos are the most ridiculous trap ever. Paying condo fees when you look at what they actually get you is moronic.

I rent.
I change air filters and mow the lawn.
Water, power, rent, wifi, trash is $900-1100/month (roommates, also friends)
I have done this for the last 7 years.

I was able to spend 67% of my take home pay on an SP500 index in 2025, shooting for 70% in 2026.
I have the price of a house in stocks.
I made 20%+ returns the last three years.
Houses make 2-4% long term average and have for the last 3 years in the US.
Congrats on the equity you got from 2020-2023, I get that and more every year in the market during those dates and in fact I average 10.5% compared to 4%.


Rent and invest the difference. Knee capping your retirement/investment capabilities in your 20's to buy a house when you are a single guy is mentally retarded and only worked out on paper because of the craziest housing market boom since 2007, and never has done that prior.
Not anti house, just see many people buy inappropriately because "its the only way to get rich" then have regret and even lose money on it.

Most people lose money on their house after the interest on their mortgage, dumb money they put into it that if the rented would stay with them and that renovation that cost you 50k, but the new buyers don't care. But hey, I bought for 300k in 1995 and sold for 600k in 2026, I made 300k! I'm rich because of my house!

Srs I was thinking about this the other day and how this old pos house of mine has literally ruined my life .
Fk if only I had my chit together earlier in life and had a newer house , as I wouldn’t be stuck doing renovations every spare moment I have on this money pit srs .

Bro I'd be happy to take over your home gym if you don't want it anymore

people feel comfy with patterns i guess. so some of the people buying today don't want to miss out on their home 3xing in value because that's what they did over the last 15 years....surely that's what'll happen again right? their $500k house they are buying will probably be worth $1.5m by 2040....maybe. plenty of cute looking real estate agents ready to get them in before it's too late.

modern subdivisions specifically are just a depressing mix of endless middle class consumerism/striving, uniformity, gossipy/nosy neighbors, HOAs and dudes who's wives allow them to have a room in the house to call their mancave. 😂

See that's thing, it didn't. It 2x'ed in a 15 year period. Sure some will say "well my area 3x'ed". Sure, now account for the taxes you paid, the bullshit you bought, the repair men you paid, the "upgrades" you made, the sum of all payments on your mortgage and uh oh...it didn't 3x, in fact you lost.

u buy new construction. Literally shit to do every weekend and the days go by quick it's fucking annoying after a while. Getting tired of dealing with it to the more income we generate....up to 470k now and I'm two seconds away from selling fucking everything and living in a nice condo where my biggest fucking worry Friday night is what hobby I'm going to partake in Saturday morning while I fucking destroy my girls pussy slapping my low hanging balls against her clit as I'm balls deep making her squak like an Osprey.

I dont know, I 100% agree with you, I have 2 acres and every weekend i'm mowing, triming, painting, doing some kind of maintenance, but I also have a monster garage with a car lift, a home gym better than most apt complexes, and a full workshop. Literally a home paradise, with nobody to bother me (other than my wife and kids). You couldn't pay me to live in a condo no matter how nice. (well normal people nice, I guess I would take a penthouse condo from some bezos type person, but being reasonable)

i think you really just wanted to tell us about your house, right?

I dont know, I 100% agree with you, I have 2 acres and every weekend i'm mowing, triming, painting, doing some kind of maintenance, but I also have a monster garage with a car lift, a home gym better than most apt complexes, and a full workshop. Literally a home paradise, with nobody to bother me (other than my wife and kids). You couldn't pay me to live in a condo no matter how nice. (well normal people nice, I guess I would take a penthouse condo from some bezos type person, but being reasonable)

Dont all housecels want to? House>condo>apt

Just how it is.