PMD is "Premium Maeng Da" They have 2 premium Maeng Da strains, PMD and PMD2, all the ones I listed are greens.

Between eating raw meat and doing heroin, eating raw meat is probably the better option.

Mario wins this round vs N0rds.

Your comparison is literally the equivalent of labeling caffeine as methamphetamine. Not sure if your comment was just to illicit a response or if you really are a complete moron.

When I buy caffeine and ephedrine, they ask for my driver's license because people cook meth out of the ephedrine. Also, since I'm not a habitual user and don't have built up tolerance, when I do take it, it hits hard and straight up gets me high.

Also, you hurt your back. Heroin and painkillers are basically the same thing. Kratom is in that same branch. I'm defending you btw, hurting your back is a legit need for opioids. N0rds seems like he just wants to do kratom for fun or because it's redpilled or something.

You clearly need to see documentaries about meth abuse, heroin abuse, fentanyl abuse, and what it does to the person and their families. Comparing it to someone who uses kratom for a slight mood boost.

You are clearly retarded.

I'm the one who can form coherent logical arguments. All you can do is a generic 1 liner insult. Doesn't that make me smarter than you?

I used to take a lot of kratom, so I had withdrawals. They sucked, but it wasn't life threatening and it was my own fault for abusing kratom. Knew a guy that got on suboxone or however you spell it because he said he'd die without it because he was addicted to kratom. I tried to tell him he was being stupid and he was fine but he wouldn't listen. Lots of misinformation and dumb people out there. That said I really like kratom, just don't abuse it.

You can't form anything coherent or cogent.

reddit freaks out over feel free too. its just a liquid kratom kava blend. i think it might be synthetically boosted like extracts. I remember like 10 years ago having kratom shots that hit hard, feel free does hit harder too but i seen reddit posts were people are spending like 100+ dollars a day on it, i dont get it, for me the euphoria just doesnt last that long, it ends after an hour or two and then i am still disoriented but without the high, its a horrible feeling, like having the side effects of being drunk but alert at the same time.

I was drinking like 6 a day on top of Kratom . I had the same cravings for feel frees that I had for alcohol and other things people fiend for.

I’m actually off Kratom now. I was an opiate addict from getting hooked on Vicodin and then I graduated to harder pills. I went to a methadone clinic and then was on suboxone. I got off the subs and was literally insane. I was having severe panic attacks so I went to Kratom and then the feel frees. I stopped the feel frees and then decided I wanted to taper off the Kratom so I’ve been off opiates/opioids for like a month now. I feel completely fine- 0 cravings. It’s actually kind of crazy. I don’t think I could have stepped down completely from suboxone but the step down from kratom has been very easy. Obviously it took work to taper because I did actually have physical dependency to the Kratom. I felt mild withdrawals for a week or two and am good now

With opiates I never really felt like a lifer. I don’t understand it but I always felt like I was more physically dependent on them than I was mentally. At least for the high of them. I stopped getting good highs when I switched to the suboxone. And then with feel frees it was almost like I got that good feeling back.

I've never even tried any of that stuff (extracts, etc), so I don't really know what those are like (and that may very well be a good thing), I've only always stuck to plain leaf.

Yeah, don't.


Nothing but horror stories, withdrawals galore, and unknown substances mixed in.

No need.

Its like going from smoking weed, to injecting heroin. Big diff