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Reminder: In the 40s/50s you could drop out of school in 8th grade and live a good life
5 hours ago, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
i don't know...white people of that generation didn't seem to take any crap from ethnics...didn't even allow them in their country and certainly not in their kids schools.
Wonder what his life would have looked like if after he came home from the war, his town/area was 45% latino/indian/asian, etc??
A very different story would have been written, one involving the equivalent of meth, back then...
A very different story would have been written, one involving the equivalent of meth, back then...
5 hours ago, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Tell us where average people in their early 20s with 7th/8th grade educations are marrying wholesome women, walking into lower tier jobs off the street, buying homes in white neighborhoods with white schools and raising 4 kids (that are good people who have never committed a crime).
You're outlining what there was, which was less than there is now. And I don't understand why. What's the point of this thread. You have had multiple people state that what you say can't be had, can in fact be had. But you're still arguing. In that regard I have to give you props. You have nailed the haskell persona down to a tee. So congrats on that.
5 hours ago, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By edwardhaskell⏩
I meant in the way of employment opportunities.
i don't know...white people of that generation didn't seem to take any crap from ethnics...didn't even allow them in their country and certainly not in their kids schools.
That available job/jobs fitting his education level would have been given to the aforementioned groups for half the pay.
I think we all know older retired guys who did drywall or the like and have lived the exact same experience as the guy in the OP. Thats not a career path for their grandkids.
I have friends that are retired police officers, that same career path would not exist for them today if they were in their 20s.
The same police depts they retired from do everything in their power to not hire white men today.
5 hours ago, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
Yeah you get the point of the topic that some fail to grasp.
I meant in the way of employment opportunities.
That available job/jobs fitting his education level would have been given to the aforementioned groups for half the pay.
I think we all know older retired guys who did drywall or the like and have lived the exact same experience as the guy in the OP. Thats not a career path for their grandkids.
I have friends that are retired police officers, that same career path would not exist for them today if they were in their 20s.
The same police depts they retired from do everything in their power to not hire white men today.
That available job/jobs fitting his education level would have been given to the aforementioned groups for half the pay.
I think we all know older retired guys who did drywall or the like and have lived the exact same experience as the guy in the OP. Thats not a career path for their grandkids.
I have friends that are retired police officers, that same career path would not exist for them today if they were in their 20s.
The same police depts they retired from do everything in their power to not hire white men today.
5 hours ago, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted By edwardhaskell⏩
You seem really stuck on that.
Tell us where average people in their early 20s with 7th/8th grade educations are marrying wholesome women, walking into lower tier jobs off the street, buying homes in white neighborhoods with white schools and raising 4 kids (that are good people who have never committed a crime).
I live in NoVA and everyone in my circle meets that (except for the lack of education, that's not a flex, that's a failure), even the white thing because most of us are mixed. We have some of the best school districts in the country, low crime, high standard of living.
My wife has only been with one man her whole life. Me. But I think that's more of a nurture thing. Since my mother has only been with one man her whole life, my father.
You want to twist things in a way so that your argument comes out on top, but your argument is neither correct nor factual.
Anything in your life that you are not happy with is a personal failure. I know you're an alt, but let's pretend you're the real Eddie. Eddie had a girl he refused to marry, she left him. Eddie has a kid who was unplanned, he doesn't see her anymore. Eddie refuses to get a job, he can't have the white picket fence simply because he's white. Work was always part of the contract.
I was born and raised quite poor. But as soon as I was able to, I fixed that. Because that's possible and quite easy to do. So again, I don't understand what you're trying to get at. You keep saying they don't serve ice cream here, but we're at a cold stone.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
5 hours ago, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I'm starting to see you type a lot of words that don't actually answer any of the questions that lead to productive conversation.
You seem really stuck on that.
I live in NoVA and everyone in my circle meets that (except for the lack of education, that's not a flex, that's a failure), even the white thing because most of us are mixed. We have some of the best school districts in the country, low crime, high standard of living.
My wife has only been with one man her whole life. Me. But I think that's more of a nurture thing. Since my mother has only been with one man her whole life, my father.
You want to twist things in a way so that your argument comes out on top, but your argument is neither correct nor factual.
Anything in your life that you are not happy with is a personal failure. I know you're an alt, but let's pretend you're the real Eddie. Eddie had a girl he refused to marry, she left him. Eddie has a kid who was unplanned, he doesn't see her anymore. Eddie refuses to get a job, he can't have the white picket fence simply because he's white. Work was always part of the contract.
I was born and raised quite poor. But as soon as I was able to, I fixed that. Because that's possible and quite easy to do.
I live in NoVA and everyone in my circle meets that (except for the lack of education, that's not a flex, that's a failure), even the white thing because most of us are mixed. We have some of the best school districts in the country, low crime, high standard of living.
My wife has only been with one man her whole life. Me. But I think that's more of a nurture thing. Since my mother has only been with one man her whole life, my father.
You want to twist things in a way so that your argument comes out on top, but your argument is neither correct nor factual.
Anything in your life that you are not happy with is a personal failure. I know you're an alt, but let's pretend you're the real Eddie. Eddie had a girl he refused to marry, she left him. Eddie has a kid who was unplanned, he doesn't see her anymore. Eddie refuses to get a job, he can't have the white picket fence simply because he's white. Work was always part of the contract.
I was born and raised quite poor. But as soon as I was able to, I fixed that. Because that's possible and quite easy to do.
I will repeat the part of the conversation you quoted:
Tell us where average people in their early 20s with 7th/8th grade educations are marrying wholesome women, walking into lower tier jobs off the street, buying homes in white neighborhoods with white schools and raising 4 kids (that are good people who have never committed a crime).
5 hours ago, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By edwardhaskell⏩
Why would anyone have a 7th or 8th grade education in this day and age? There are no totally white areas that are desirable either. You have to be trying to be obtuse. I refuse to believe you're this slow.
I'm starting to see you type a lot of words that don't actually answer any of the questions that lead to productive conversation.
I will repeat the part of the conversation you quoted:
Tell us where average people in their early 20s with 7th/8th grade educations are marrying wholesome women, walking into lower tier jobs off the street, buying homes in white neighborhoods with white schools and raising 4 kids (that are good people who have never committed a crime).
I will repeat the part of the conversation you quoted:
Tell us where average people in their early 20s with 7th/8th grade educations are marrying wholesome women, walking into lower tier jobs off the street, buying homes in white neighborhoods with white schools and raising 4 kids (that are good people who have never committed a crime).
I literally just told you NoVA. But you won't accept that.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
5 hours ago, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
The discussion isn't meant to center around the how or why anyone would want a 7th or 8th grade education in today's world. The point you are failing to grasp is that it's about what used to be available vs what is now available.
Why would anyone have a 7th or 8th grade education in this day and age? There are no totally white areas that are desirable either. You have to be trying to be obtuse. I refuse to believe you're this slow.
I literally just told you NoVA. But you won't accept that.
I literally just told you NoVA. But you won't accept that.
So in NoVA 2026 -- an average person with a 7th/8th grade education can walk into lower tier non-skilled employment in their early 20s, buy a house in a white neighborhood/white schools, marry a wholesome stay at home woman and raise 4 kids?
Something tells me 90% of the country is heading your way because return on effort investment is off the charts. Heck, might be clearing $500k by 18 with a high school diploma!
5 hours ago, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By edwardhaskell⏩
You're right. You always have been.
The discussion isn't meant to center around the how or why anyone would want a 7th or 8th grade education in today's world. The point you are failing to grasp is that it's about what used to be available vs what is now available.
So in NoVA 2026 -- an average person with a 7th/8th grade education can walk into lower tier non-skilled employment in their early 20s, buy a house in a white neighborhood/white schools, marry a wholesome stay at home woman and raise 4 kids?
Something tells me 90% of the country is heading your way because return on effort investment is off the charts. Heck, might be clearing $500k by 18 with a high school diploma!
So in NoVA 2026 -- an average person with a 7th/8th grade education can walk into lower tier non-skilled employment in their early 20s, buy a house in a white neighborhood/white schools, marry a wholesome stay at home woman and raise 4 kids?
Something tells me 90% of the country is heading your way because return on effort investment is off the charts. Heck, might be clearing $500k by 18 with a high school diploma!
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
5 hours ago, 07:52 AM
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NoVa schools might be high performing but they are so totally gay that I'd never send my kids there. They are probably the gayest schools in the country.
14 minutes ago, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By John
that's another thing...not sure people worried as much about sending their kids to public schools back in the 40s/50s. could probably argue that my gramps was sending his kids to schools that people would pay TONS of money to have access to nowadays...not simply because of academic rigor either.
NoVa schools might be high performing but they are so totally gay that I'd never send my kids there. They are probably the gayest schools in the country.
1 minute ago, 12:58 PM
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But things weren't as good for black people so just burn it all down!
Fact is things were better for black people back then as well.
Fact is things were better for black people back then as well.
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