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Thread: Antibiotic Resistance: It is upon us. 10 million/year will die by 2050.

post 1444410621 05-27-2016, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted By RC2008⏩
Humanity is seriously fuked up, and has been for far too long and allowed to go on like nothing is happening. Nothing to do with depression. Just objective opinion. I don't have anything to be depressed about.
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Agreed this could be a massive issue. Disagree that it will be to the scale you're talking about.

Just because one type of bacteria mutates to be drug resistant doesn't mean the other million types are going to do the same thing at the same time. Whether E. Coli evolves to resist antibiotics has no bearing on whether Staph does the same thing.

So yes, long-term, this could be a big issue. Or perhaps a bunch of deaths from resistant E. Coli will serve as a wake up call to change things before they truly are as bad as OP talks about.
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post 1444410991 05-27-2016, 01:03 AM
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Sounds like all the FAs who sit at home will be the first to go due to having never developed a strong enough immune system

We won't make it brahs...
post 1444411181 05-27-2016, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Agreed this could be a massive issue. Disagree that it will be to the scale you're talking about.

Just because one type of bacteria mutates to be drug resistant doesn't mean the other million types are going to do the same thing at the same time. Whether E. Coli evolves to resist antibiotics has no bearing on whether Staph does the same thing.

So yes, long-term, this could be a big issue. Or perhaps a bunch of deaths from resistant E. Coli will serve as a wake up call to change things before they truly are as bad as OP talks about.
It is much much worse then that.

If E. Coli develops a gene to be resistant against penicillin based antibiotics it can pass that gene onto other types of bacteria.
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Originally Posted By Mai91⏩
It is much much worse then that.

If E. Coli develops a gene to be resistant against penicillin based antibiotics it can pass that gene onto other types of bacteria.
Is that srs possible? I have no knowledge of this sort of thing, but I would assume unrelated strains of bacteria had no interaction with each other.
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Chit...I'll more than likely be dead by 2050...

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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Is that srs possible? I have no knowledge of this sort of thing, but I would assume unrelated strains of bacteria had no interaction with each other.
Yep its totally possible. There needs to be cell to cell interaction though so if the bacteria are unlikely to come into contact with eachother then they can not pass on the gene.
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I have a hard time believing a new antibiotic hasnt been created since 1980

My microbiology class, my lab was centered around antibiotic research. It was some yale program where we had to soil samples and continuously break it down to potentially find new antibiotics.

One girl found some super-rare something.. i forgot what it was, but she flew all over the u.s. presenting it. Thats just one lab class within 1 school

But i do know that funding is a problem
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Everyone will just start taking 20 Gs of vitamin c a day and live without ever getting ill
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Originally Posted By LonelyBrahs⏩
Sounds like all the FAs who sit at home will be the first to go due to having never developed a strong enough immune system

We won't make it brahs...
Never leave house = never infected. You mad?
post 1444413581 05-27-2016, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Well, pretty soon it's going to be big incentive for drug companies when the millions of people who formerly took their drugs and lined their pockets with cash are suddenly dying, and when the executives of the companies themselves begin fearing for their own lives after getting a scratch.

Necessity and the desire to survive will eventually lead to a solution. Unfortunately, I think several million people are going to have to die first.
While I agree AB resistant is a major concerning threat, it is being handled better and better nowadays. Additionally there would be a lot of money and honour in finding yet another broad-spectrum AB, so saying there is zero incentive or research going on is wrong. Just one year ago was Cefepime-Tazobactam combination FDA approved, which works extremely well against ESBL and AmpC bacteria.

Also, this could be prevented by making all AB prescription-drugs and forcing doctors to prescribe them less often. And the general population needs to be educated and start finishing their full prescription and not stop treatment halfway through. Look at northern europe, they are doing relativly great compared to ex. Spain (lets not talk about asia.. or S.America) because of these measurements. Still, there is room for improvement. Also, vaccinations probably needs to be mandatory in the future, because if AB stops working then the only way to stop the bacterial disease is prevention, AND to stop secondary infection from viruses. Plus globalisation and migration makes this even more of a headache. Some countries already demand proof of vaccination before entrance (yellow fever in China), but you cant screen very easily if the person is a transmittor of a superbug, and thus spreads it in the destination country.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Is that srs possible? I have no knowledge of this sort of thing, but I would assume unrelated strains of bacteria had no interaction with each other.
They can transfer gene segments known as plasmids. So yes, its a very real thing. Look up AmpC gene. It codes fo AB resistance against beta lactams and 3rd gen cephalosporins. Originally found in E.coli but now exist in strains of Enterobacteria, Pseudomonas, Kleibsiella, Yerisinia, and the list goes on. Not all strains of course, but nonetheless potentially very bad outcomes if not handled correctly.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Is that srs possible? I have no knowledge of this sort of thing, but I would assume unrelated strains of bacteria had no interaction with each other.
Lol yes. It's how it works in the microbiological world. Strains don't mean anything when it comes to passing along genetic information.
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Originally Posted By krazy33⏩
I have a hard time believing a new antibiotic hasnt been created since 1980

My microbiology class, my lab was centered around antibiotic research. It was some yale program where we had to soil samples and continuously break it down to potentially find new antibiotics.

One girl found some super-rare something.. i forgot what it was, but she flew all over the u.s. presenting it. Thats just one lab class within 1 school

But i do know that funding is a problem
They are researching it. There are other options they are looking into besides antibiotics such as bacterio****es.
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Not if Maserati Martin has anything to say about this "superbug".

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Originally Posted By zonee2k⏩
They can transfer gene segments known as plasmids. So yes, its a very real thing. Look up AmpC gene. It codes fo AB resistance against beta lactams and 3rd gen cephalosporins. Originally found in E.coli but now exist in strains of Enterobacteria, Pseudomonas, Kleibsiella, Yerisinia, and the list goes on. Not all strains of course, but nonetheless potentially very bad outcomes if not handled correctly.
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Absolutely retarded. New DNA sequence-specific antibiotics are being developed as we speak.

https://genomebiology.biomedcentral....059-014-0516-x

Actual scientists are keeling over with laughter reading articles like these.
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My dog had an infection and it had to be cultured to figure out which antibiotic to give her.

On the panel it showed this particular bacteria was resistant to 7/9 antibiotics on the sheet. My dog is only 2 years old.

By my calculations that means her infection is becoming resistant to ~4 antibiotics a year. Looks like her tour is gonna be over in 6 months or less.

(srs about the panel tho)
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http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/...pocalypse-yet/

Cliffs: the media is scaremongering

Also, the woman in this case was actually treated, successfully, with a common antibiotic. The only story is that it was resistant to a specific "last resort" antibiotic.
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Originally Posted By DrFrasierCrane⏩
An oregano oil/garlic mix kills everything
The year 2056

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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/...pocalypse-yet/

Cliffs: the media is scaremongering

Also, the woman in this case was actually treated, successfully, with a common antibiotics
"For now, thecase serves mostly to highlight the ongoing crisis ofrising antibiotic resistanceand furthers the need forbetter stewardshipof old antibiotics and development ofnewones.iotic. The only story is that it was resistant to a specific "last resort" antibiotic."

Not fearmongering, but trying to sell sensational news. Its not a conspiracy, just journalists not intrested or smart enough to provide an objective picture. That being said, AB resistance problem is as real as it gets, in the article you posted that was the conclussion anyway (see above). An that particular case is anecdotal.
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Originally Posted By Sensuality⏩
They are researching it. There are other options they are looking into besides antibiotics such as bacterio****es.
Afaik bactero****es has a lot of obstacles to overcome to be viable. Not a realistic option for more than a handful diseases, since it is developed for and only works on single particular strains, thus cost effectiveness is low in organisms where multiple strains are pathogenic. We can hope tho.
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