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post 1445054283 05-30-2016, 10:37 PM
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I guess it's because US patriotism on some next level cult ****, and a lot of people don't blindly love people of authority or who go to war.

IDK, I personally don't really give a chit about modern veterans only because I don't buy into their title of grunt deserving of respect when the lot of them are kunts that enlisted because they were going nowhere in life, piggybacking on the romanticized image of a soldier and thinking they deserve to have their arses kissed. WWI and WWII veterans are a bit different, since they fought for chit that mattered without really asking for anything in return.

Feel bad for brahs who had the intentions of protecting their country and the world who develop serious mental illnesses and get absolutely butt fuk all support when they return from their tour.



Most people act liek those kids from Jesus Camp when talking about their country, reciting the pledge, singing their national anthem, and fantasizing about their military power.
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just lol @ automatically respecting impoverished, uneducated fuks that couldn't do anything other than "serve"


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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
I guess it's because US patriotism on some next level cult ****, and a lot of people don't blindly love people of authority or who go to war.

IDK, I personally don't really give a chit about modern veterans only because I don't buy into their title of grunt deserving of respect when the lot of them are kunts that enlisted because they were going nowhere in life, piggybacking on the romanticized image of a soldier and thinking they deserve to have their arses kissed. WWI and WWII veterans are a bit different, since they fought for chit that mattered without really asking for anything in return.

Feel bad for brahs who had the intentions of protecting their country and the world who develop serious mental illnesses and get absolutely butt fuk all support when they return from their tour.
You live in the socialist, liberal-cuck UK. What makes you think you know anything about American patriotism?

It doesn't matter why a soldier may have joined the forces, if he has served his country then he deserves respect no matter what.

Negged for disrespecting men and women whose sacrifice your beta, worthless self could never hope to live up to.
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post 1445055993 05-30-2016, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted By NeonEagle⏩
just lol @ automatically respecting impoverished, uneducated fuks that couldn't do anything other than "serve"


lmao
You hate veterans, and you're a liberal.

Nothing new to see here. Negged.
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post 1445056333 05-30-2016, 10:54 PM
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My bro is in Syria serving time. His personality that I've seen doesn't match what he's doing. Props and phuck anti American pieces of chit.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
You hate veterans, and you're a liberal.

Nothing new to see here. Negged.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
You live in the socialist, liberal-cuck UK. What makes you think you know anything about American patriotism?

It doesn't matter why a soldier may have joined the forces, if he has served his country then he deserves respect no matter what.
You're real mad, huh.

I understand American patriotism just fine; I see all the *******s like you who lick boots and kiss the arse of authority figures all the time. I don't have to be an American to observe American politics, behaviour, attitude, and see what Americans stand for. You really reprimanded me, bruh; You did an outstanding job defending the forces.

Sorry, but someone who is a kunt doesn't just deserve respect because he dawned camo. You can continue to believe that, but I'm not going to follow that follower mindset. I'll think for my own instead and give respect to people who aren't scumbags, no matter what they did for a paycheck.


EDIT: "Trump 2016"

All right, now it makes sense. Average level intelligence, quick to anger, no original thoughts, limited comprehension skills, relies on aggression to deal with opposing views.
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Because people hate a lot of the wars we've gotten ourselves into. Unfortunately they blame the veterans for this. The blame goes to the politicians and the people who put them into power.

I am against the Iraq war like most people these days but I am not against all war. For instance I think Hitler needed to be stopped during the 1940s. If anything we should have gone in and taken him down sooner.

The Middle East is more of a deeply rooted problem with culture. We need to get out of there.

I was a huge military buff when I was younger. I still enjoy learning about the history. But I lost interest in actually joining the Armed Forces. I don't trust the leaders of this country.
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People misdirect their condemnation of war and end up blaming veterans.

No person should be discriminated against or face harassment on account of his veteran status, whether he be a veteran of this country, or any other country even enemy countries.

That's why, when i voice my disapproval of US foreign policy, i leave the veterans out of it.

I just ask myself, "how would i like it if a veteran gave me chit for my lack of patriotism?" I wouldn't like it. So i don't give them chit. Its mutual respect.
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Originally Posted By TrueForester⏩
PTSD fraud is increasing to a multi-billion dollar cost to Americans.

-Quality and bravery of soldiers going down
(Wrong people are going into military, also if you see combat you can fake PTSD and get 90% of your pay for life, standard is dropping yearly in what a soldier needs to be made oflol women soldiers)

Wars are fake and staged by the worlds elite for profit
(More terrorists in Africa than ME, but we fund and supply our future ME adversaries which fuels arm sales while buffering price of Oil)

Increasing cost for those wars & soldiers that are outdated and taking Ls like no tomorrow.
(We should focus on nuclear doomsday weapons, drones, & special forces from military academies)

How many wars do we have to lose (Korea, Nam, Iraq, & Afganistan) before we realize that our methods are outdated. Infantry and bases in enemy countries are a liability at best. British empire lost America because they refused to adapt fighting Americans.

I will say this there are some certified bad ass people in the military that deserve all of our respect.
Have you ever served *******? You're 23 and act like you know modern combat strategy and tactics but you don't know chit. Sitting behind your computer spewing some chit you read online but really have no insight on.

Being a soldier isn't about your political views. You serve your country and do what your commanded regardless of your opinions. You can whine about how our modern day wars didn't advance the US all you want. Iraq and Afghanistan may not have turned out well but if everyone in this country was like most of you *******s itt we would be phucked. Without a military this nation would be screwed regardless of if you think the wars we fight are necessary.
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That being said, if you get drafted, you're going to war whether you like it or not. Not your fault, but you are getting forced to lay down your life for another man and his family while you leave yours to fend for themselves. Pretty uncool thing to do if you ask me.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
You're real mad, huh.

I understand American patriotism just fine; I see all the *******s like you who lick boots and kiss the arse of authority figures all the time. I don't have to be an American to observe American politics, behaviour, attitude, and see what Americans stand for. You really reprimanded me, bruh; You did an outstanding job defending the forces.

Sorry, but someone who is a kunt doesn't just deserve respect because he dawned camo. You can continue to believe that, but I'm not going to follow that follower mindset. I'll think for my own instead and give respect to people who aren't scumbags, no matter what they did for a paycheck.


EDIT: "Trump 2016"

All right, now it makes sense. Average level intelligence, quick to anger, no original thoughts, limited comprehension skills, relies on aggression to deal with opposing views.
Nah, I'm not that upset. If you were an American, then yea I might be. But you're a stereotypical, liberal cuck living in the UK.
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post 1445059133 05-30-2016, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Nah, I'm not that upset. If you were an American, then yea I might be. But you're a stereotypical, liberal cuck living in the UK.
I'm actually pretty right wing, I'm just not a brain dead mong that can't separate job status and personality, or wipe their arse without directions from a superior. Keep flinging mud, you're just making yourself look like the stereotypical dumb American.

You literally sound like women when defending their celebrity crushes, despite that person being a proper wanker.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
I'm actually pretty right wing, I'm just not a brain dead mong that can't separate job status and personality, or wipe their arse without directions from a superior. Keep flinging mud, you're just making yourself look like the stereotypical dumb American.

You literally sound like women when defending their celebrity crushes, despite that person being a proper wanker.
Disrespecting military veterans is not a right wing value. Please stop trolling
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Originally Posted By WhoaBro21⏩
Because they're dumbass commie liberals who have absolutely ZERO understanding of how the world once was and how every nation pillaged and conquered in order to benefit their own people

The same people who hate veterans are the same ones complaining about white privilege even though they live in a nation that exists because of white sacrifice (Inb4 slavery which accounts for less than a single percentile of "sacrifice")
Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
You will never find a conservative who hates veterans, but you'll find plenty of liberals. These people are the same ones who show up in hordes to Trump rallies and destroy police cars, riot like animals, and make complete idiots of themselves. Why do they do it? Because they are mad that they've never done anything valuable with their own worthless lives so they want to take out anger on people who have done something worthwhile(like served our country). Besides that, liberals believe America is an evil country and hate anything to do with patriotism or honoring America. They hate the principles of freedom and moral values that America was founded upon. They hate the Constitution. They hate the idea of natural rights and freedom. And most of all, they hate the men and women who are willing to die to support these principles.

THAT is why these scumbags vandalize the memorials.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Less than 100? You must not follow the news. Hundreds+ people are showing up to these rallies. I live in Dallas, and when Trump here for a convention earlier this year, there were at least 500 scumbags lined up outside the convention center screaming and cursing like animals.
Ok so 500 were protesting we have established that. Out of those how many were actually assaulting people, jumping on cop cars, vandalizing ect? Because this would be the same as me saying all trump supporters are violent because just one of them punched a protester at a rally.



As for the OP idk why they do that,to be edgy? The public loves stories like this though so they can pretend to care about veterans for a day. Only to go back to not giving a chit the rest of the year. At least the people vandalizing are honest about them not carring for vets.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Disrespecting military veterans is not a right wing value. Please stop trolling
I guess political views don't follow a gradient

I don't disrespect anybody, I just choose not to respect people who are rubbish people. You see that as 'disrespecting the military' because you have their meat and two veg jammed so far down your throat that the reverse is the only other taste you recognize. Again, I'm pretty right wing.. not extremist right, but definitely not left. If you think me being able to separate job status and persona makes me a leftist, then you've done nothing but proven how small minded you are.

Sad, really that someone like you tries to represent an entire political ideology.
Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
Ok so 500 were protesting we have established that. Out of those how many were actually assaulting people, jumping on cop cars, vandalizing ect? Because this would be the same as me saying all trump supporters are violent because just one of them punched a protester at a rally.
Don't bother trying to gain insight from Hank Hill, bruh. Homie isn't exactly open-minded.
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Mostly because of pointless wars targeting innocent people. Majority children and women being killed or raped.

While I dont disrespect vets I dont not bend over and bow down to them like some retards due. Obviously good and bad folks in any occupation, and that's it its just an occupation. Most dont join to fight they join because they are broke and and have no future. A small minority joins because of being patriotic......like .000001%
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Originally Posted By TrueForester⏩
PTSD fraud is increasing to a multi-billion dollar cost to Americans.

-Quality and bravery of soldiers going down
(Wrong people are going into military, also if you see combat you can fake PTSD and get 90% of your pay for life, standard is dropping yearly in what a soldier needs to be made oflol women soldiers)

Wars are fake and staged by the worlds elite for profit
(More terrorists in Africa than ME, but we fund and supply our future ME adversaries which fuels arm sales while buffering price of Oil)

Increasing cost for those wars & soldiers that are outdated and taking Ls like no tomorrow.
(We should focus on nuclear doomsday weapons, drones, & special forces from military academies)

How many wars do we have to lose (Korea, Nam, Iraq, & Afganistan) before we realize that our methods are outdated. Infantry and bases in enemy countries are a liability at best. British empire lost America because they refused to adapt fighting Americans.

I will say this there are some certified bad ass people in the military that deserve all of our respect.
You ever been to war? The military at all?

I don't agree with lowering standards but if a broad can do it then whatever.

Also, I personally know females that have been blown up, been in firefights, and performed better than some males.

People in the military are not morons, to make rank you need to have higher education, you can't progress even as enlisted without a bachelor's degree for senior nco ranks.

South Korea exists and is a prosperous country because we stepped in. Vietnam fell completely because bitches like you lost the will to fight. You're 23 so you don't even know the atmosphere when 9/11 happened, EVERYONE was calling for blood. Iraq is the product of a people that refused to help themselves.we should've never went but in the same hand you'd probably be crying about saddam right now making threads asking why the US hasn't done anything. Ive trained iraqis, been on patrol with iraqis and they are overwhelmingly cowards. Iraq had the opportunity to become the region's super powers funded and backed by the most powerful governments on the planet, but for some reason arabs have no will to better themselves as a whole, only going for personal gain, the smart ones emigrate.

The reason America remains eons ahead of everyone else is because we can project military power anywhere, keeping other countries in check and our interests viable and protected.

People like you are sheltered from the harsh realities of the real world. You live in a first world country virtually care free because people are willing to do dirty work that you dislike so much. As a result of their sacrifice you can downplay what they do online and shove black dick down your throat on the weekends, without the worry of being killed by an invading entity.
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I don't hate vets, but I also don't respect them (not in the sense of me not respecting them in the actual sense of the word, but in that elevated sense of "he did something good for me" it's more of an undifference type of feeling)

Like someone said above, I believe it's because of how patriotism is viewed in the US. For me, I don't truly believe they're fighting for our freedom. I would have very serious respect for those that fought in times where our freedom was actually at stake, or if they were standing up to actual injustice (ala ww2), because those who sign up in such times are truly fighting for something more than themselves out there. At that point they're truly risking everything to protect our ideologies as American,in such case those people do truly deserve the utmost respect.
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
I guess political views don't follow a gradient

I don't disrespect anybody, I just choose not to respect people who are rubbish people. You see that as 'disrespecting the military' because you have their meat and two veg jammed so far down your throat that the reverse is the only other taste you recognize. Again, I'm pretty right wing.. not extremist right, but definitely not left. If you think me being able to separate job status and persona makes me a leftist, then you've done nothing but proven how small minded you are.

Sad, really that someone like you tries to represent an entire political ideology.



Don't bother trying to gain insight from Hank Hill, bruh. Homie isn't exactly open-minded.
You act like respect for veterans is a concept for brainwashed zombies. Respect for veterans is no different than opening the door for a disabled person or saying "thank you" when someone does something for you. Respect for veterans is a very natural concept for the majority of people as it should be. There is something twisted and disgustingly selfish about a person who does not.

These people put their lives in danger for their country. They spent time away from their families. They endure ridiculous criticism from countless, ungrateful people like yourself. They lose arms, legs, and worse.

You're a twisted person, but nothing I say is going to convince you so I'm gonna leave it at that.
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Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
Ok so 500 were protesting we have established that. Out of those how many were actually assaulting people, jumping on cop cars, vandalizing ect? Because this would be the same as me saying all trump supporters are violent because just one of them punched a protester at a rally.



As for the OP idk why they do that,to be edgy? The public loves stories like this though so they can pretend to care about veterans for a day. Only to go back to not giving a chit the rest of the year. At least the people vandalizing are honest about them not carring for vets.
Convenient how you left out the fact that the Trump protestor who punched someone had already been punched first. Nowhere did I say all the protestors were violent either. Stop putting words in my mouth.

My point still stands, that the violent Trump protestors, BLM activists, and angry leftists are the ones defacing veteran memorials. You will not find a conservative, freedom-loving American commiting such disgusting acts.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
You act like respect for veterans is a concept for brainwashed zombies. Respect for veterans is no different than opening the door for a disabled person or saying "thank you" when someone does something for you. Respect for veterans is a very natural concept for the majority of people as it should be. There is something twisted and disgustingly selfish about a person who does not.

These people put their lives in danger for their country. They spent time away from their families. They endure ridiculous criticism from countless, ungrateful people like yourself. They lose arms, legs, and worse.

You're a twisted person, but nothing I say is going to convince you so I'm gonna leave it at that.
No, you just don't understand my point at all and have prompted me to call you a dumb ass for no reason other than you behaving like a butthurt dumb ass. You seem to think that I encourage people to spit on soldiers, piss on graves, and throw rotten tomatoes at people in uniform. That isn't the case at all, but I also don't sit there and worship the ground they walk on or ignore the fact that lots of them are serving solely for a paycheck that they couldn't receive anywhere else which has nothing to do with my 'freedoms' outside of a mere consequence.

I also don't ignore the fact that lots are entitled dikheads that even you would want to smack in every day life if they weren't dressed in camo. You can't seem to wrap your small brain around grey area concepts, believing the world to be black and white, and having the limited (and incorrect) understanding that, because I don't suck every military officer's cock and bollocks (even if that person buggers children on his spare days), that I hate the military and despise their history. Fuk off, mate.

Nothing I've said is twisted. Funny, you call me a liberal and yet you argue just like one.
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who hates veterans?

I grew up /live in probably one of the most liberal cities in America and even here I never hear anything about hating veterans

Hating war/the politicians who sent them, maybe, but never the vets themselves
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post 1445065393 05-31-2016, 12:11 AM
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I meet plenty of veterans, they're generally nice guys. Then again, the veterans I meet never start with the whole "I'm fighting for your freedoms" thing. They usually freely admit that you earn respect because of who you are.
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post 1445066153 05-31-2016, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
No, you just don't understand my point at all and have prompted me to call you a dumb ass for no reason other than you behaving like a butthurt dumb ass. You seem to think that I encourage people to spit on soldiers, piss on graves, and throw rotten tomatoes at people in uniform. That isn't the case at all, but I also don't sit there and worship the ground they walk on or ignore the fact that lots of them are serving solely for a paycheck that they couldn't receive anywhere else which has nothing to do with my 'freedoms' outside of a mere consequence.

I also don't ignore the fact that lots are entitled dikheads that even you would want to smack in every day life if they weren't dressed in camo. You can't seem to wrap your small brain around grey area concepts, believing the world to be black and white, and having the limited (and incorrect) understanding that, because I don't suck every military officer's cock and bollocks (even if that person buggers children on his spare days), that I hate the military and despise their history. Fuk off, mate.

Nothing I've said is twisted. Funny, you call me a liberal and yet you argue just like one.
Keep lying to yourself. Based on all the comments I've gotten in my reps, there's a lot of other "dumb asses" who agree with me. You're a shameful minority in the sense that you don't respect veterans. You've done nothing to support your country or America specifically so I'm not sure why I'm even arguing with you.
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post 1445066323 05-31-2016, 12:21 AM
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You may agree with American Foreign Policy but don't trash the veterans. ****ing scum who did that in OP.
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post 1445066483 05-31-2016, 12:22 AM
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It's an american thing to elevate veterans to the status of gods. Here and most of the world soldiers are just soldiers, they aren't protecting me, they're just doing a job and people respect them for that. Desecrating a war memorial is no different to desecrating any memorial for the dead - it's extremely disrespectful. Doesn't matter if it's a soldier or just an old granny. But I find the people who most actively attack veterans are left-wing extremists who have allied themselves to foreign threats like islamofascism.
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