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Dont ever want to hear anyone say Messi is better than Ronaldo again
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Theyre both great players but human at the same time. It was Messi's 1st miss in a penalty shootout. **** happens. A lot of times, Ronaldo wont do jack squat the entire match but will score a goal last minute to cover up his non existent play.
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MARADONA > messi


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considering the sort of talent in the argentina squad, it makes you question how messi would perform in another club team
you would have expected him to have won at least one international tournament with the likes of di maria, higuain, mascherano, tevez, aguero, zabaleta, cambiasso, samuel, otamendi, riquelme, ayala, veron etc over the years
euros is definitely more competitive than copa america and it makes you appreciate the contributions of the spanish barcelona players who have done it at club and international level consistently
you would have expected him to have won at least one international tournament with the likes of di maria, higuain, mascherano, tevez, aguero, zabaleta, cambiasso, samuel, otamendi, riquelme, ayala, veron etc over the years
euros is definitely more competitive than copa america and it makes you appreciate the contributions of the spanish barcelona players who have done it at club and international level consistently
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Originally Posted By DanielDJ⏩
brb Romania, Albania, Ukraine, Slovakia, Ireland, Northern Irelandconsidering the sort of talent in the argentina squad, it makes you question how messi would perform in another club team
you would have expected him to have won at least one international tournament with the likes of di maria, higuain, mascherano, tevez, aguero, zabaleta, cambiasso, samuel, otamendi, riquelme, ayala, veron etc over the years
euros is definitely more competitive than copa americaand it makes you appreciate the contributions of the spanish barcelona players who have done it at club and international level consistently
you would have expected him to have won at least one international tournament with the likes of di maria, higuain, mascherano, tevez, aguero, zabaleta, cambiasso, samuel, otamendi, riquelme, ayala, veron etc over the years
euros is definitely more competitive than copa americaand it makes you appreciate the contributions of the spanish barcelona players who have done it at club and international level consistently
lmao
Copa was way more competitive and more entertaining than Euros have been so far, teams were actually going for it in every single match instead of parking the bus and playing for draws
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06-26-2016, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted By MagicMata⏩
I didn't say anything about Iniesta and what he did for Spain, that is not what this is about....you are the one saying Messi cannot succeed without Iniestabrb beating Panama, Bolivia, Ecuador and the US and thinking you are good lmao.
Notice Argentina beat Chile in the groups without Messi lmao!
Also notice how Iniesta took Spain to 2 Euros and a WC, scoring the winning goal in the final?
Notice Argentina beat Chile in the groups without Messi lmao!
Also notice how Iniesta took Spain to 2 Euros and a WC, scoring the winning goal in the final?
I pointed out that Messi got to the WC final....I don't remember Iniesta in midfield for Argentina in 2014
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06-26-2016, 09:53 PM
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I called it since Argentina's first game on the tournament. They dont play like a team, they rely on Messi to do something GOATTY or they struggle to make one decent chance. Unless Messi had another GOAT performance it was always gonna be Chile's match.
But honestly its laughable as fuk that people bring CR7 into this discussion. Dude hasnt even won a game in the euros lmao. Forever under Messi's shadow.
But honestly its laughable as fuk that people bring CR7 into this discussion. Dude hasnt even won a game in the euros lmao. Forever under Messi's shadow.
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Originally Posted By Trillical⏩
But who was MVP of the 3 CL finals and 2 Copa del Rey finals Barcelona won? Arguments of peace lulzAgree. MESSI HAS NEVER EVER SHOWED UP IN BIG GAMES.
RONALDO > MESSI
RONALDO > MESSI
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Messi is better than ronaldo
06-26-2016, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Anybody who isnt trolling agrees with that, its a pretty obvious statement. The question is against Maradona and IMO Messi is far better.Messi is better than ronaldo
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Originally Posted By Trillical⏩
Portugal scores in euros so farAgree. MESSI HAS NEVER EVER SHOWED UP IN BIG GAMES.
RONALDO > MESSI
RONALDO > MESSI
Portugal 1, Iceland 1
Portugal 0, Austria 0
Hungary 3, Portugal 3
Portugal 1, Croatia 0 in extra time, the better team lost IMO
Polska is going to cuck Portugal
lol a bunch of draws and a win and they made it through to the quarter finals, euros of peace
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06-26-2016, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Yea I am a huge Maradona fan. One of the greats. Love the way he played. But yes, Messi is better. Most would agree.Anybody who isnt trolling agrees with that, its a pretty obvious statement. The question is against Maradona and IMO Messi is far better.
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Ronaldo couldn't even take his team past the group stages of the WC while Messi carried his to the final.
Messi > Ronaldo
Messi > Ronaldo
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Originally Posted By Antonio519⏩
It isnt an official win if its on ET brah. Portugal has 4 draws so far lmao. Strong quality of tourneyPortugal scores in euros so far
Portugal 1, Iceland 1
Portugal 0, Austria 0
Hungary 3, Portugal 3
Portugal 1, Croatia 0 in extra time, the better team lost IMO
Polska is going to cuck Portugal
lol a bunch of draws and a win and they made it through to the quarter finals, euros of peace
Portugal 1, Iceland 1
Portugal 0, Austria 0
Hungary 3, Portugal 3
Portugal 1, Croatia 0 in extra time, the better team lost IMO
Polska is going to cuck Portugal
lol a bunch of draws and a win and they made it through to the quarter finals, euros of peace
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06-26-2016, 10:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Ken-O post_id=1449859453][img]http://messinews.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Messi-lifting-2015-Champions-League-trophy-2.jpg
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[img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/22/article-2543828-0D22DBC0000005DC-36_306x423.jpg[/QUOTE]lol if that is your argument, comparing a CL to a WC.
Seriously? ****ign hell.
Messi: Number 1 in a field of 1 but still can't turn up when needed.
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[img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/22/article-2543828-0D22DBC0000005DC-36_306x423.jpg[/QUOTE]lol if that is your argument, comparing a CL to a WC.
Seriously? ****ign hell.
Messi: Number 1 in a field of 1 but still can't turn up when needed.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Its very simple, both played for Argentina and Barcelona. One GOATed it up for Argentina, but failed miserably at Barcelona, coundlt lay off the coke, was a nutcase and was sold to a strong Napoli team that would later win the UEFA CUP (lulz).Yea I am a huge Maradona fan. One of the greats. Love the way he played. But yes, Messi is better. Most would agree.
The other one became Barcelona's icon, and will forever be the most important name for Barcelona's club, and has played very good with Argentina (broke all the individual records) but his teammates never gave him rope, unlike Maradona's teammates.
Its bad timing to discuss this because most people are short minded retards, but honestly Messi has had the much more succesful career.
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Originally Posted By CestLaVida⏩
ThisRonaldo couldn't even take his team past the group stages of the WC while Messi carried his to the final.
Messi > Ronaldo
Messi > Ronaldo
lmao at the US making it out of that group instead of Portugal
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Originally Posted By DicedPineapples⏩
first off there is nothing wrong with parking the bus, each team has to play to their strengthsbrb Romania, Albania, Ukraine, Slovakia, Ireland, Northern Ireland
lmao
Copa was way more competitive and more entertaining than Euros have been so far, teams were actually going for it in every single match instead of parking the bus and playing for draws
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Copa was way more competitive and more entertaining than Euros have been so far, teams were actually going for it in every single match instead of parking the bus and playing for draws
tactic are a huge part of top level football and i would watch indoor football if i wanted to see end to end football all the time
also the likes of Hungary and Wales topped their groups while Poland and Iceland came second, so not all small nations have been pushovers this year
YES EUROS IS MORE COMPETITIVE THAN COPA AMERICA
out of 24 European teams I can mention 8 teams (Spain, Italy, Germany, France, England, Belgium, Portugal, Croatia) who could win this year but out of the 16 in Copa America there were only 4 realistic contenders (Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, Chile)
for most of the 20th century South Americans and Europeans could go head to head but over the past 20 years the world cup has been dominated by European teams
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Originally Posted By abdus⏩
In the CL, you play several of the best clubs in Europe, formed by the best players in the world, who play and train together EVERY DAY. To win a CL you have to go past several well oiled elite machines.lol if that is your argument, comparing a CL to a WC.
Seriously? ****ign hell.
Seriously? ****ign hell.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
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06-26-2016, 10:17 PM
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Lawd, all accomplishments mean NOTHING if you don't show up when your team needs you the most.
Period.
Messi being GOAT with a GOAT team in Barca means nothing lmfao. Goals being served up on a silver platter to you. So impressive.
Period.
Messi being GOAT with a GOAT team in Barca means nothing lmfao. Goals being served up on a silver platter to you. So impressive.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
That CL justificationIn the CL, you play several of the best clubs in Europe, formed by the best players in the world, who play and train together EVERY DAY. To win a CL you have to go past several well oiled elite machines.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
I give up.
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Come back again dip****.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
the delusions are real, maradona played in a time where defenders were hacking down attackers for fun and refs were way more lenient, he also played against your baresis and gentiles meanwhile messi playing against some scrub form levanteIn the CL, you play several of the best clubs in Europe, formed by the best players in the world, who play and train together EVERY DAY. To win a CL you have to go past several well oiled elite machines.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
let's see what happens when he plays against grandpa nesta even at an age where he can't go 2 days without being on the medical table
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[QUOTE=abdus post_id=1449862343]That CL justification
I give up.
Just leaving this here:
[youtube]KY40__rBSk[/yutube]
Come back again dip****.
Never seen such delusion from football fans, all being Messi fans[/QUOTE]You give up because your argument was destroyed lol. And yeah that was the greatest goal in the world cup history, thats why Maradona is an argentinian legend. Messi is a Barcelona legend because he has a bunch of brutal legendary epic goals in important times as well, even more than Maradona. Dat goal against Bilbao last year on the cup final, against prime Boateng leaving him on the floor like a retarded kid and finishing the best keeper in the world with a beautiful touch, that solo goal at the Bernabeu against Real Madrid in CL semi finals which finished Mourinho's Madrid, etc.
If you are going to go on that route, you are hanging yourself dumbass
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/bOX2QpfMkq4[/youtube]
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NwsFYkp_r5w[/youtube]
Game set match *******.
[QUOTE=ahdonbilivit post_id=1449862393]the delusions are real, maradona played in a time where defenders were hacking down attackers for fun and refs were way more lenient, he also played against your baresis and gentiles meanwhile messi playing against some scrub form levante
let's see what happens when he plays against grandpa nesta even at an age where he can't go 2 days without being on the medical table
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/1o1oogEfZNE[/youtube][/QUOTE]
LOL strong fukin arguments, brb Messi only plays against Levante and **** teams like that and Maradona only played against maldini and ther legendary defenders.
Logic of peace.
I give up.
Just leaving this here:
[youtube]KY40__rBSk[/yutube]
Come back again dip****.
Never seen such delusion from football fans, all being Messi fans[/QUOTE]You give up because your argument was destroyed lol. And yeah that was the greatest goal in the world cup history, thats why Maradona is an argentinian legend. Messi is a Barcelona legend because he has a bunch of brutal legendary epic goals in important times as well, even more than Maradona. Dat goal against Bilbao last year on the cup final, against prime Boateng leaving him on the floor like a retarded kid and finishing the best keeper in the world with a beautiful touch, that solo goal at the Bernabeu against Real Madrid in CL semi finals which finished Mourinho's Madrid, etc.
If you are going to go on that route, you are hanging yourself dumbass
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/bOX2QpfMkq4[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/7hjDINElwVc[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/NwsFYkp_r5w[/youtube]
Game set match *******.
[QUOTE=ahdonbilivit post_id=1449862393]the delusions are real, maradona played in a time where defenders were hacking down attackers for fun and refs were way more lenient, he also played against your baresis and gentiles meanwhile messi playing against some scrub form levante
let's see what happens when he plays against grandpa nesta even at an age where he can't go 2 days without being on the medical table
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/1o1oogEfZNE[/youtube][/QUOTE]
LOL strong fukin arguments, brb Messi only plays against Levante and **** teams like that and Maradona only played against maldini and ther legendary defenders.
Logic of peace.
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06-26-2016, 10:34 PM
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Just ran into this thread.... lmao Messi nuthuggers going hard to defend their man.
Best player in the world, but you can't be the GOAT while getting cucked by Germany in every WC and Chile in two Copa America finals sorry lol.
Let's not forget Argentina beat Chile 2-1 without Messi in their group stage encounter. That says it all right there.
Also, why bring up Ronaldo?
I mean if Messi can't win do shiet with Argentina that has a WC player in just about every position what do you *******s think he'd do with the garbage quality Portugal has? Fukin lol just face it Alexis cucked Messi tonight and outperformed him.
Best player in the world, but you can't be the GOAT while getting cucked by Germany in every WC and Chile in two Copa America finals sorry lol.
Let's not forget Argentina beat Chile 2-1 without Messi in their group stage encounter. That says it all right there.
Also, why bring up Ronaldo?
I mean if Messi can't win do shiet with Argentina that has a WC player in just about every position what do you *******s think he'd do with the garbage quality Portugal has? Fukin lol just face it Alexis cucked Messi tonight and outperformed him.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
although I agree that players football careers are mostly played at club level you can't deny the prestige of international gloryIn the CL, you play several of the best clubs in Europe, formed by the best players in the world, who play and train together EVERY DAY. To win a CL you have to go past several well oiled elite machines.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
In the WC, which happens every 4 years btw (lol), its played with teams formed by players who rarely if ever play together, with a coach that only gets to have them a few days a year. One bad game, or one stupid mistake a teammate makes, and you are out, there is no second leg, just have to wait 4 years and hope.
Plus, its 3 CL titles, and a bunch of other important titles that Maradona simply doenst get close to. Club football makes up for 90% of a player's career, naturally club football is more relevant dumbass.
you ask Messi or Ronaldo if they could swap a CL for WC and they wouldn't think twice
wealth and your ability to use your resources to attract the best players plays a huge role at club level
at international level you can't weaken your competitors by buying their players! it's all about talent, national pride and passion
Messi is GOAT at club level but as it stands he will never be Argentina's football god
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
am i wrong?You give up because your argument was destroyed lol. And yeah that was the greatest goal in the world cup history, thats why Maradona is an argentinian legend. Messi is a Barcelona legend because he has a bunch of brutal legendary epic goals in important times as well, even more than Maradona. Dat goal against Bilbao last year on the cup final, against prime Boateng leaving him on the floor like a retarded kid and finishing the best keeper in the world with a beautiful touch, that solo goal at the Bernabeu against Real Madrid in CL semi finals which finished Mourinho's Madrid, etc.
If you are going to go on that route, you are hanging yourself dumbass
Game set match *******.
LOL strong fukin arguments, brb Messi only plays against Levante and **** teams like that and Maradona only played against maldini and ther legendary defenders.
Logic of peace.
If you are going to go on that route, you are hanging yourself dumbass
Game set match *******.
LOL strong fukin arguments, brb Messi only plays against Levante and **** teams like that and Maradona only played against maldini and ther legendary defenders.
Logic of peace.
start from 11:00, shyt maradona had to face was brutal meanwhile messi prances around the pitch and if anyone slightly touches him it's a straight red
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Originally Posted By DanielDJ⏩
Thats why he will be the GOAT everywhere except in Argentina. Cant really blame him for the finals lost since his whole team always depends on him doing something GOATLY while others fuk it up, but i can at least understand the frustration coming from argie brahs.although I agree that players football careers are mostly played at club level you can't deny the prestige of international glory
you ask Messi or Ronaldo if they could swap a CL for WC and they wouldn't think twice
wealth and your ability to use your resources to attract the best players plays a huge role at club level
at international level you can't weaken your competitors by buying their players! it's all about talent, national pride and passion
Messi is GOAT at club level but as it stands he will never be Argentina's football god
you ask Messi or Ronaldo if they could swap a CL for WC and they wouldn't think twice
wealth and your ability to use your resources to attract the best players plays a huge role at club level
at international level you can't weaken your competitors by buying their players! it's all about talent, national pride and passion
Messi is GOAT at club level but as it stands he will never be Argentina's football god
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