As life goes on, I'm kind of seeing how narrow the road I'm on really is.

Right off the bat, I could see that I had zero interpersonal skills and was too weak to do any kind of labor for a living. Right there, you know how many doors that shuts? I was pretty much railroaded onto STEM right there. I was always considered a smart kid, always the best at whatever schoolwork I tried to do. So my parents ****ing drove me hard in school, even though they have pretty much no education themselves. It was all "work hard in school and you're going to make it in life, you're going to be the boss of some place one day." I believe they saw early that I had no other options besides academics.

As time goes on, I'm seeing that I'm not really even that smart. I'm a very concrete thinker, so I just murdered the easy, direct **** in high school by cookbooking step-by-step formulas for doing each type of problem and cribbing off the diagrams I was given. Now just cheat on the harder homework questions and prep well for the tests and you're graduating in the top two percent of your class. But as I get into college, I've been kind of struggling with the more abstract concepts (This radio wave propagates through space to an antenna, what dimensions of the antenna would maximize this gain?). And I know now that the abstract thinking is what actually makes money. The concrete stuff is computer ****.

So my best play is to go down a road where I can maximize my quantitative skills, which have a lower ceiling than I thought. And there's not a lot of leeway off of that road because I just don't have any other skills to offer. I couldtryto join the military - but I wouldn't make it through PT. I couldtryto start a business, but with no connections and no interpersonal skills, how far would I make it? You get the picture. I seriously don't see any realistic alternative to STEM wagecucking.

I'm just playing the deck of cards I have as best I can.

They didnt lie *******

Im a fukn astronaut, race car driving neuro surgeon bitch cause thats wtf i wanted to do

No they are not liars you can be rich and be whatever but its very hard to do and most people dont have the willpower and drive to do it, instead they complain and makes excuses which is what you are doing now.

That's why I tell every kid I come across that they're a piece of chit and will likely be a wageslave for the rest of their days. Fuk trying to inspire the youth we need more redpill neckbeard fuktards like you to spread the truth.

Also to other people talking about the engineering degree: a technical degree does not cure being a fukwit. Source: Degree in EE class of 2008 from very competitive university here in Southern California. Met as many if not more idiot throughout college.

You don't get rich by working.

You get rich byowning.

Willpower and drive have little to do with the latter.

They lie to you to give you motivation to get past the first stage in life. If you knew the truth you'd see no point in finishing basic ed.

Older brah checking in to give you some hard truth.They were 100% honest. People i every generation can bust their ass and better themselves. But you were complacent. Want to be rich?You can't get rich by showing up for work every day.That hasalwaysbeen true.You dun goofed if all you did was go to college and then apply for some jobs. You followed the herd. All college can do for you is give you a middle class life.

I know people who live their life kicking ass and taking names, and they profit. Want to make some money? Rent out a room in your apartment/house. Don't want to deal with a P.O.S. room mate? Ok, enjoy being middle class or worse, because you're a whiny biche who doesn't want to share his home with a stranger.

Nobody tell him about Santa.

Confirmed. I am EE idiot.

Nah you're allright brah. The idiots I'm speaking of would never be self-aware.

I let my kids enjoy being kids. As they got older I didn't paint a picture of life being all sunshine and rainbows. It was quite the opposite and being an adult wasn't always fun.

Do you wake up every morning with a roof over your head and dry, do you have indoor plumbing, do you eat scraps out of a dumpster or eat off the dirt if no, then congratulations you're doing better than millions of people who chit in a hole in the ground and drink water that animals crap and decay in

Howdy.

i guess your parents should have told you to LDAR, that you wont amount to anything in life, to not even bother get good grades, get a great degree, or to not strive for anything great

Maybe I'm a lazy pos but working any job at a company you don't really care about sounds bearable at best, miserable at worst

Thats your fault. You're not willing to develop yourself into the ideal person to make it in the military, or start a company.

You're content with wagecucking and unwilling to change.

You know how I know you don't know what the eff you're talking about? But i guess a person only capable of quantitative simple thinking instead of being able to understand abstract and complex math equations would say something like this. Will power and drive have a lot to do with owning a business. Businesses just don't pop out of thin air, since that's basically what you're saying. If it didn't take will power and drive than anybody could become become a business owner with little effort. But I guess you're one of those kids that think natural talent is what rules all, abd not trading or hard work, since by your other post you described how you cruised through high school taking average classes instead of trying to stretch yourself tackling on the harder courses. Of course they're supposed to be hard, but not impossible. But from your POV unless you're naturally gifted in taking classes like calc in hs then why bother huh? With this being said, enjoy your average life wagecucking and fapping to girls you'll never get and not having the will and drive to take on challenging trials.

EDIT:^^^fukkin wizard giving the short version.

This is the type of dude thats gonna make it. Calculated risk taker.

Growing up my father opened my eyes to both the good and bad of life. He would drive me through the most expensive neighborhoods in the city and the worst on Sunday mornings.
We grew up with not much, but he wanted to show my brother and I "it could be a whole lot worse"
Thats how he instilled work ethic in us. Work hard --- live like these people. Be lazy -- live like these people
As I got older he took me into the office. Showed me what a 9-5 looked like.
Then he let me talk to friends that owned businesses all different sorts and let me form my own opinion.

That said, YOU still had the resources and intelligence to achieve such goals.

You can't have the "all other things constant" approach.

There are so many variables from one person to the next.

Or better yet rent the whole house out to 3 strangers, let those people live together and use a % of the residual income to live somewhere by yourself if thats what you want.

Good to see other old guys spitting some knowledge on here.

Agreed, nothing is constant, most everything is a variable when dealing with someone's life and outcomes. If we agree on that, we should be able to agree that movement is relative.
You either move forward, stay stagnant or regress. True? You ARE in control of which direction you move.

lmao yeah, its cuz so many teachers are like 22 year old females who never lived in the real world, so they tell the kids that everyone will be rich and super successful.

if i had a kid i would tell him/her that to be successful you have to get decent grades, go to cheap college, meet successful people, focus on a real profession thats in demand for jobs.

If you tell the kids how chit will most likely realistically play out then you give them the attitude that most of you washed up *******s have. Why even work hard or put in any effort if the probability is high that I'll have a chitty existence.

You make it seem like the sky is the limit for kids so that hopefully they will work harder and become more than just a loser like OP complaining about life on a bodybuilding forum.

I'll lay it out like this.

I took all the hardest **** I could in high school. Came out of there with 40-50 hours of college credits and I'd done math up to differential equations. I got a full ride to an out of state college, 100% merit based based on my academics. I worked at that ****, dude. The material came pretty easily to me, but I also knew I had to maximize that opportunity while it was there. I was busy every night either doing homework or doing bitch work labor for my dad on the weekends.

The problem with college isn't necessarily the material either. It's harder for me, yeah, but that **** is hard for everyone. I could get by with Bs with half the effort I'm putting in now. The real problem is that that college scholarship came with a 3.5 GPA requirement, which any engineering student can tell you is absolutely retarded. So I've ended up LDAR'ing probably 80 hours a week on schoolwork just so I can keep the scholarship I worked to earn. None of that **** matters in real life, but it's either keep grinding on that and graduate debt free, or waste everything I worked for in high school, move back in with my parents, take out $15,000 a year in loans, and commute 3 hours every day to go to the closest college back home.


Yeah, If I wanted to go start a business or join the army or ****, I could quit college right now. But look at the opportunity cost of that - all of HS pretty much thrown away, two years of college thrown away, and the potential of a 60K desk job in an air-conditioned office gone. I'm not going to act like that's an amazing lot in life, but what's better that would be worth losing all that?

And as far as ownership, there's not much of a correlation between working and success. You could open a restaurant and pour every waking minute you've got into it (and a lot of those guys do), just to bring home 30 Gs after expenses and taxes. Or hell, McDonald's could open next door, your place goes under, and all that work you did was for naught. You could spend nights and nights coding some new software, but if no one's interested in buying it, that work didn't make you a dime.

On the other hand, some distant relative could die tomorrow, will you a few acres of green-field land in the Bay Area, and you'd be rich without lifting a finger.

Ownership can take different forms. If you're running a business, then yeah, it's going to take a ton of effort no matter what, and there's no guarantee of success. Statistically it's a lot less likely to make you rich than ruin you. But ownership of assets (and businesses are one) doesn't always require work to get, andthat'sthe **** that makes you rich.

So let's say I want to join the army. I would have to spend a year or so just getting into shape, then enlist into a famously micro-managed environment for 14K a year plus room and board.

Is that reallybetterthan STEM wagecucking?

I could force myself to do something I've never had the talent for and may not be physically able to do (you think my 130 pound ass is going to be any good at lugging ammo belts around for 10 hours a day?), or I could take a realistic look at things and try and make the most of the talents I have.

I will just leave this here for some truth...Good old Mike Row from Dirty jobs - Never follow your passion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVEuPmVAb8o

WTF are you going on and on about?
Stay in school. Continue to work hard at making the grades
Graduate, hopefully get a job at a great company, forget about the pay, go to wherever you can learn real world shiet the quickest
Soak that in as quick as possible, make as many genuine connections as you can
Then when you see an angle on a business or another company to propel your career take it

Its not that complicated.

repped. There are so many things a person can do to improve their lives, but #1 thing is to stop being a wagecuck. You can still have a job, but don't make your 9-5 job your entire future and then cry because you're not getting rich.

This...
Read all of what you stated, FAP*******, and that chit does suck. But id still say work hard and keep failing in prefer for you to keep growing and succeeding. Also studying and working IS NOT LDARing if you working towards yourself. Some things come slower than others, and some also don't have the skills or talent to take on the highest jobs, but that shouldn't keep you from being the best you can be. Aim high, and even if you fail, you still have something to work with even more than if you just settled for less.

Those connections are the issue, brah. I've never been good at making connections (would have had at least 1 friend in the last three years if I was), and coming from a poor family I've never really had any. I've tried to improve my social skills - talking in terms of other people's interests, eye contact, fake enthusiasm - but I really lost motivation for it after I didn't see those efforts producing any results. People still just blow me off.

Unfortunately, that networking is how **** gets done in the real world. I've been able to circumvent it by grade-grinding, but that's not going to last much longer.