this is where you went full retard

u left out the other half of what I said.

If u come from extreme poverty then yes money makes your life better. but making more money ppl just generally buy more expensive versions of **** they already have, which is not fulfilling at all

unless were talking extreme wealth to the point where u don't have to work at all anymore, thats a different story

but for the average person, making more money isn't going to drastically change your life

more money more problems.

having lots of money won't MAKE you happy. It sure can take the edge off though

How does one aspect of life constitute as everything?

Anyone that says money is everything lives a pretty terrible life.

Also, you're right OP, a lot of people with little money try to make themselves feel better by saying that.

Even though money is not everything, it is 1 important facet of our lives. As said above, financial freedom is a great feeling and would eliminate a lot of stress.

Strong age.

Long term you'll be happier srs.

Everything and everyone breaks down eventually.

if your still working cuz you have to then your not wealthy

I invest my money, save aggressively and live very frugally. So much so that it basically puts me in the same "disposable income" brackets as the broke diks you talk about. Difference is that I absolutely believe money [IS] everything. Money doesn't buy happiness directly, but indirectly so through time and opportunity.

You coping *******s should realize the same thing. In all seriousness, though, most miscers are red pill so your thread is preaching to the choir, OP.

So wait let me get this straight, you live a frugal lifestyle to aggressively save.....for what?

So accumulating money makes you happy?

SOunds pretty miserable srs

money makes money

Strong this. Not worrying about bills and purchases is the biggest de-stress factor.

I know plenty of miserable CEO's and plenty of happy broke hippies. OPs point is invalid.

Tell that to a guy who is richer than you and your great great great great grand children all combined

CEOs may not necessarily control the company if there is a board of directors

100% true OP.

Two of my friends come from insanely wealthy families. One of which is extremely douchey about it. He's like "I'm proof that money is the only thing that matters in this day and age between being happy and not."

Dude lives an incredible life and money is a non-issue for anything that he does. Buying a house, car, clothes, etc. going on vacation, saving for retirement, paying for the best healthcare, doesn't even matter. HBBs flock to him becuase of his $ and he knows that is the only reason why (he actually started dating a girl who somehow has more $ than he does).

cliffs? dont wanna watch vid

I have learned that more happiness comes from having control over your finances more so then how much you actually earn.

If you make 8K a month, and 7.5K is going out the door, your not going to be as happy(unless your ignorant to finances) as the guy down the street, in a house half your size, who makes a third of what you make, who saves 15% or more of his pay each month who is living within his means.

There is more joy and satisfaction out of owning less, and utilizing and putting those items to use, and getting the satisfaction out of the value you are receiving from those items then those who just accumulate stuff and use it less.

You do not have to live in a contemporary home to feel motivated to organize, and declutter. I live in a ranch, nice place, wood floors, but its got a historic feel to it too. Its not a new house. When you walk in however, it is very clean, there is minimal furniture, and it is simple. I utilize everything, and nothing is there just to be on display. Everything serves a purpose either in my everyday life or close to it.

Life is purely psychological, and one can be happy with a fraction of what the rich make as long as they have control of their lives. What I explained above are huge factors in getting your brain to feel in control of your own life.

Having control of your own life and having that piece of mind stems motivation.

I was a very miserable person for a long time, and I an honestly say what turned me around had nothing to do with making more loot. It was a matter of getting in control, feeling in control, feeling organized and adding value and putting meaning to the things I own and use.

Value and meaning are the most satisfying things in life, if you surround your life by things that add those two traits your setting yourself up to be a much happier and satisfied person.

Theres a documentary called The Minimalists, and although I'm not 100% as committed as they are...I would say I am right around 85-90%. People should watch it.

Balance your life, and I put something into perspective. Theres a conversation between a Neurologist and a patient. The patient explains "I'm trying to start running, but I just don't have the energy or patience everyday" the Neurologist replies "Well why not begin running one day a week?" and the patience replies "Well, what is the point of that?".

If you read that, and think about the mindset a lot of people have today, we are doing literally so much **** the wrong way, and holding the wrong mindsets.

Hope this helps some of you guys.

Money literally isn't everything. Some things are made of wood, or rice

If you think money is everything then you've successfully been brainwashed by the modern world. I use to be the same way, very superficial buying top of the line everything then I realized I had a problem and everything I was buying was only bringing me temporary happiness. You think when you get rich enough to buy yourself a mansion and a Ferrari you'll be happier? Nah it'll just fade and you'll feel a massive void if all you care about is money and superficial ****. Money is only important to a certain point, affording food a house and a little play money to go on trips with or whatever . But I doubt someone who makes a million a year is much happier then a guy making 40k on average.

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Yeah but at what cost???

I always reply: So when was the last time you cried in your private jet thinking ''is this all there is to life?''

never go full retard

edit:fking gandalf over here

ok but this applies to who? lottery winners? people who built a business then sold it? people who inherited wealth?

The partners I work with easily clear 500k+ and they're all still working. Nobody would argue they aren't wealthy lol They make more in a month than most people do in a year

It's only like 5 minutes. Curb your ADHD for a bit

age: 92

time to hang it up geezer

this is a good post, you don't have to be wealthy to solve your money related stress issues, you don't have to be wealthy to stop living from pay check to pay check. It's all about balance.

went from making $35k to $120k in my mid 20s and at 32, I make around the middle of those two. There was a HUGE difference in how I felt when I was bringing in $10-11k/month opposed to $2.5k/month. Maybe thats not a lot of money to miscers but when your 24 and had spent 2 straight years in that cubical life and then fall into your dream job and 6 figures, its mind blowing.

Sometimes its almost more enjoyable to look at something you want and dream of having it...imagining what it would be like. When you actually have it, you're happy but its a different feeling all together. I mean, its there, you have it when you need/want it. you dont stop and think about it for fun. Of course you can now just go enjoy it whenever you want but theres something abou WANTING something. I experienced it a lot when I made that jump in income. You dont think about the material things as much once you have them.

In other words, you can be happy with a lot of money or without a lot. It really depends on your frame of mind.well said

Money is time (not time is money) is probably a much more accurate colloquialism.

You trade your time for money at a workplace, and you can retire when you finally have enough money to not need to trade it anymore.

helping people and spreading the love is everything. but that requires influence, and money. So the two go hand in hand.

the problem with money and wealth in general is it becomes a drug: youll get your fix for the time being when you get that promotion or higher salary position but youre always going to want that nicer car or bigger house or better paying job thinking thats whats going to bring you happiness, but in reality youre sacrificing your time and sanity for the fleeting feeling of getting your fix. People that say money isnt everything realize that being able to make a decent, not overly grand living with a low stress job and havingtimeis what really brings happiness.