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Originally Posted By ArchangelST⏩
Conservatives don't spit on the flag. Liberals do that to push their agenda. There is no place sacred liberals won't go to get what they want.Conservatives are just as affected by the ehco chambers and confirmation bias as Liberals.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Speaking as someone who is clearly a perfect example of ignorance.Without looking right now are you aware of what the word "ignorant" means?
Cause I'm really searching for how it applies to this situation.
Cause I'm really searching for how it applies to this situation.
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LMFAO at the mental gymnastics ITT criticizing and convoluting this to fit in some box other than what it is:
BRB I'm so angry cause the flag, cause the kids, cause the game, blah blah ****ing blah, it's all cope.
Tell us why you're really mad.
BRB I'm so angry cause the flag, cause the kids, cause the game, blah blah ****ing blah, it's all cope.
Tell us why you're really mad.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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I think (like Trump on this issue) in the sense that if they are that ungrateful to the flag and the country the flag represents, they should not be accepting the millions of dollars that this country pays them to play a fuking game. So, I am against them kneeling for the anthem, it is disrespectful and makes them look pretty stupid considering they obviously love the money that comes with their "platform".
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Originally Posted By Gnocchi⏩
Oh yeah cause I'm the one throwing the word around without any attempt at hinting how anybody involved is ignorant, or how I came to that conclusionSpeaking as someone who is clearly a perfect example of ignorance.

No, it's just a case of irony here, some halfwit using words that are out of his grasp but don't let me stop you from making yourself look like an idiot.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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lol at the people in here who are offended by this but voted for a man who made fun of a POW for being captured.
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09-26-2017, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
The answers are right in front of you *******. Do you even reading comprehension?LMFAO at the mental gymnastics ITT criticizing and convoluting this to fit in some box other than what it is:
BRB I'm so angry cause the flag, cause the kids, cause the game, blah blah ****ing blah, it's all cope.
Tell us why you're really mad.
BRB I'm so angry cause the flag, cause the kids, cause the game, blah blah ****ing blah, it's all cope.
Tell us why you're really mad.
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I just think what the athletes are protesting is dumb because they're trying to champion for a false narrative. Blacks are not being killed by the police on an epidemic level. There is no systematic effort by police departments around the country to target and kill blacks. Statistics actually show that more white people were killed by police in previous years. I can go on. It's dumb. And honestly, I wouldn't have a problem if the NFL, and any other league, goes down the sh!tter because these rich athletes can't keep their politics out of something like sports.
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Originally Posted By ATT82121⏩
The "answers" are flimsy at best.The answers are right in front of you *******. Do you even reading comprehension?
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By RuckusFury⏩
It's not just for black people but police brutality as a whole.I just think what the athletes are protesting is dumb because they're trying to champion for a false narrative. Blacks are not being killed by the police on an epidemic level. There is no systematic effort by police departments around the country to target and kill blacks. Statistics actually show that more white people were killed by police in previous years. I can go on. It's dumb. And honestly, I wouldn't have a problem if the NFL, and any other league, goes down the sh!tter because these rich athletes can't keep their politics out of something like sports.
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09-26-2017, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Why don't you do what an educated, intelligent person would do and fire up whatever neurons you got left and engage in discussion and give reasoning behind your perspective, or is that too difficult for ya bud?The "answers" are flimsy at best.
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Originally Posted By corvade⏩
And thats the problem with the argument. The bold. Thats a big reason why ppl have a problem with kneeling. That and they dont want politics in their sports.No, I am not.
I love my country, and we have the freedom of speech.
The athletes are bringing attention the police brutality,in the most respectful and efficient method of creating controversy. It's reaching millions and bringing forth discussion.
The first amendment is an amazing thing that not every country has, and I'm truly blessed mine does.
I love my country, and we have the freedom of speech.
The athletes are bringing attention the police brutality,in the most respectful and efficient method of creating controversy. It's reaching millions and bringing forth discussion.
The first amendment is an amazing thing that not every country has, and I'm truly blessed mine does.
Hands up dont shoot never happened. Its alright for these lies by the left to be perpetrated and celebrated by players kneeling...but its all a giant lie.
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
The answers are clear...The NFL players kneeling for no reason is what's flimsy.The "answers" are flimsy at best.
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Fake news.
But, Trump already said it best, boyos. "There are some very fine people both sides.".
Right?
But, Trump already said it best, boyos. "There are some very fine people both sides.".
Right?
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yes i am offended. its a blatant form of disrespect. i dont even agree with their vague reason as to why they do it..."social injustice"? blacks have had a freaking president in office for 2 terms give me a break...people just want to feel like a victim.
you do know blacks lied about lots of those police killings right?
you do know blacks lied about lots of those police killings right?
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
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Originally Posted By Jrd86⏩
you don't think police brutality is a problem at all? Nobody mention "Hands up dont shoot" so that's irrelevant to thisAnd thats the problem with the argument. The bold. Thats a big reason why ppl have a problem with kneeling. That and they dont want politics in their sports.
Hands up dont shoot never happened. Its alright for these lies by the left to be perpetrated and celebrated by players kneeling...but its all a giant lie.
Hands up dont shoot never happened. Its alright for these lies by the left to be perpetrated and celebrated by players kneeling...but its all a giant lie.
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so many upset liberal cucks ITT lmao!
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I can take apart a few reasons a little too easily:
1. Setting a bad example- Oh OK so people protesting to stand up for something they believe in is "setting a bad example".
2. Kaepernick should be grateful NFL chose him to be showered with money- no the reality is he was earning that due to his physical talents, NFL didn't come knock on his door with a million dollar check like ****ing Publishers Clearing House or something.
Those are both arguments that could just as easily be made.
1. Setting a bad example- Oh OK so people protesting to stand up for something they believe in is "setting a bad example".
2. Kaepernick should be grateful NFL chose him to be showered with money- no the reality is he was earning that due to his physical talents, NFL didn't come knock on his door with a million dollar check like ****ing Publishers Clearing House or something.
Those are both arguments that could just as easily be made.
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That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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the awareness and discussion kapernick was looking create is now lost in a whole mess of things, things way off the path of what his original message was meant to do. It couldn't be more clear when we see the entire Pittsburgh stealers team stand in the tunnel for the anthem besides one player who stands separate with his hand over his heart. This man has toured 3 times in Iraq/Afghanistan and the fact he feels he should be apologizing to his teammates for how it came across or looked to the world is mindboggling.
That's where this thing has gone. A military man who did 3 tours in the middle east feels the need to apologize to his teammates because he stood for the national anthem lol. gimme a ****in break lol. I get it it team voted supposedly and what not who cares don't even needa get that far into it it's just a mess
That's where this thing has gone. A military man who did 3 tours in the middle east feels the need to apologize to his teammates because he stood for the national anthem lol. gimme a ****in break lol. I get it it team voted supposedly and what not who cares don't even needa get that far into it it's just a mess
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Originally Posted By BeastinFitness⏩
Exactly. We arent paying these ppl for their political opinions. We pay them to play the game. They are our escape from politics. This need to politicize EVERYTHING needs to stop!I think (like Trump on this issue) in the sense that if they are that ungrateful to the flag and the country the flag represents, they should not be accepting the millions of dollars that this country pays them to play a fuking game. So, I am against them kneeling for the anthem, it is disrespectful and makes them look pretty stupid considering they obviously love the money that comes with their "platform".
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Originally Posted By corvade⏩
No it's not. The only thing people are discussing is how disrespectful it is to kneel ... or ... on the left they're just posting memes with people kneeling on the top and white supremacists on the bottom half trying to associate anyone that thinks kneeling is disrespectful as a ignorant nazi sympathizer.No, I am not.
I love my country, and we have the freedom of speech.
The athletes are bringing attention the police brutality, in the most respectful and efficient method of creating controversy. It's reaching millions and bringing forth discussion.
The first amendment is an amazing thing that not every country has, and I'm truly blessed mine does.
I love my country, and we have the freedom of speech.
The athletes are bringing attention the police brutality, in the most respectful and efficient method of creating controversy. It's reaching millions and bringing forth discussion.
The first amendment is an amazing thing that not every country has, and I'm truly blessed mine does.
This country has gone full retard. The only remotely sane people are the liberals and conservatives saying, "Why don't you go kneel in front of a police station or violent parts of Chicago instead of disrespecting the flag and what it stands for by grand standing."
I'm sick of every piece of entertainment having an obvious SJW political agenda tossed in. I don't watch much sports but the people i know who do are sick of it in sports too.
Honestly, i think people in the USA have life so easy compared to the rest of the world that they feel empty and unfulfilled on the inside. Because of that, they lurk on social media 24/7 just looking to stir the pot somehow so that they can feel involved and necessary.
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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
Police brutality is definitely a problem when it occurs. What these protests however are trying to campaign for is the narrative that there is an epidemic level of it occurring against black people. That is not what is happening. More white people were killed by the police last year than black people. But what movements like Black Lives Matter is all about is making people believe that there is a significant amount of police department out there that are treating black people like target practice. BLM was built on the bodies of dead thugs and lies. And these protests against the national anthem are a byproduct of that movement. So **** them. They will be putting their careers on the line when fans start hurting the NFL's pocketbooks.you don't think police brutality is a problem at all? Nobody mention "Hands up dont shoot" so that's irrelevant to this
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
Listen here buddy, I understand you might not be the best at reading comprehension but I urge you to take your time and digest some of the thoughts written in this thread as they go a lot deeper than your simpleton rebuttals that just restate arguements that've been brought up without providing any intellectual perspective.I can take apart a few reasons a little too easily:
1. Setting a bad example- Oh OK so people protesting to stand up for something they believe in is "setting a bad example".
2. Kaepernick should be grateful NFL chose him to be showered with money- no the reality is he was earning that due to his physical talents, NFL didn't come knock on his door with a million dollar check like ****ing Publishers Clearing House or something.
Those are both arguments that could just as easily be made.
1. Setting a bad example- Oh OK so people protesting to stand up for something they believe in is "setting a bad example".
2. Kaepernick should be grateful NFL chose him to be showered with money- no the reality is he was earning that due to his physical talents, NFL didn't come knock on his door with a million dollar check like ****ing Publishers Clearing House or something.
Those are both arguments that could just as easily be made.
To address your second point, sure the NFL didn't come knocking on his door but what gave way to the NFL to be created, to operate and to be so well funded? America.
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Doesnt offend me at all...though I find is stupid AF
what I do see, is 100+ millionaires doing the bare minimum. Kneeling.....fukin' kneeling. When Kaper-whatever first did it, it was forgotten quickly. It starts again and will be forgotten just as quickly. These football players are finding the easiest route to take, without disrupting their cushy lives.
Half of them look smug as fuk and the other half seem confused as to why they are kneeling.
Im an average joe without the means to make change but these guys have no excuse. They have the influence and money to do more then just kneel then go home for the night after the game.
As for learning about whats happening via. the news/media, who the hell am I suppose to believe when getting "informed". All sources talked about the steelers sitting in the locker room during the anthem but they were all standing, standing right inside the tunnel. How the fuk can I believe what TV is telling me.
what I do see, is 100+ millionaires doing the bare minimum. Kneeling.....fukin' kneeling. When Kaper-whatever first did it, it was forgotten quickly. It starts again and will be forgotten just as quickly. These football players are finding the easiest route to take, without disrupting their cushy lives.
Half of them look smug as fuk and the other half seem confused as to why they are kneeling.
Im an average joe without the means to make change but these guys have no excuse. They have the influence and money to do more then just kneel then go home for the night after the game.
As for learning about whats happening via. the news/media, who the hell am I suppose to believe when getting "informed". All sources talked about the steelers sitting in the locker room during the anthem but they were all standing, standing right inside the tunnel. How the fuk can I believe what TV is telling me.
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Originally Posted By lexbishop⏩
Why should I have to publically condemn the actions of someone who has absolutely NO relation to me other than the color of our skin? I have nothing to do with the idiots that go and burn down their towns. Cops sure as hell don't condemn bad cops on a large scale(blue wall).Until black people condemn it on a large scale, others just see violent destruction as the group response.
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I'm not offended by a vast amount of people using their 1st amendment right to protest a cause they believe in and how they carry it out. So long as the way it's protested doesn't affect others safety or liberty.
Example:
Taking a knee during the anthem is fine. Nobody is affected.
Don't block the damned freeways. Don't corner people with shouts and use mob mentality tactics. Don't vandalize property.
I do wish it was out of sports. I don't want to force it away with set rules, that would impede on the Liberty of the fans/players.
Sports used to be an escape for me but now it's been invaded by politics. And I believe it can be detrimental to specific sports teams with mixed amounts of players kneeling/standing in terms of teamwork and overall performance on the field.
There's no excuse for the **** football playing by the Raiders last Sunday. We got our asses kicked.
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Taking a knee during the anthem is fine. Nobody is affected.
Don't block the damned freeways. Don't corner people with shouts and use mob mentality tactics. Don't vandalize property.
I do wish it was out of sports. I don't want to force it away with set rules, that would impede on the Liberty of the fans/players.
Sports used to be an escape for me but now it's been invaded by politics. And I believe it can be detrimental to specific sports teams with mixed amounts of players kneeling/standing in terms of teamwork and overall performance on the field.
There's no excuse for the **** football playing by the Raiders last Sunday. We got our asses kicked.
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Originally Posted By albeezy512⏩
You state absolutes like saying cops don't condemn bad cops on a large scale...WHERE IS YOUR PROOF OF THAT?...Other than your bias based on your skin color.Why should I have to publically condemn the actions of someone who has absolutely NO relation to me other than the color of our skin? I have nothing to do with the idiots that go and burn down their towns. Cops sure as hell don't condemn bad cops on a large scale(blue wall).
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