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post 1521172591 10-01-2017, 06:01 PM
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Here is the thing that never gets mentioned when they talk about blacks being killed in disproportion numbers by the police.
From 1980 to 2013, there were 2,269 officers killed in felonious incidents, and 2,896 offenders. The racial breakdown of offenders over the 33-year period was on par with the 10-year period: 52 percent were white, and 41 percent were black.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.13a41eb487ca

So let's unpack that. If we call blacks in the US 13% of the population they are killing police officers at a rate disproportionate to their percentage of the population. You figure the majority of the killing were done by males and that number jumps even more because you have lets say 7% of the population committing, conservatively, over 1/3 of all police killings.
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
All the witnesses pretty much say he had his hands up when shot... that justifies being killed?
All the witnesses were his buddies, who were also ghetto trash. That made me believe that he was guilty and deserved to be put down was what he was doing not 30 minutes prior. He was robbing a convenience store. Now stealing is not something that warrants the death penalty, but violence against people who have done you no harm certainly is. He sealed his fate in my eyes when he decided to assault the convenience clerk, who was 1/3rd his size. Based on his violence which was caught on video, I'm more inclined to believe the cop's story, rather than the story given by his neighbors.

Also, don't forget that his family got into a huge public, violent brawl over who could sell RIP Michael Brown shirts. The whole lot of them isn't worth a gram of shyt, and the world would be a better place if they all just disappeared from this planet.
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Originally Posted By RainingBlood⏩
Link to actual study, that OP's biased news source failed to cite:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fr...-july_2016.pdf

Important to note that "On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities."

- Use of lethal force among black Americans is within the expected trend.
- Use of non lethal force amongst black/hispanic Americans is significantly higher than expected.

This means that police brutality is STILL an issue among racial minorities.
Not true. More cases of assault on and fleeing from police by race. Context is key. We all know white dudes is corny and be all like "okay" with authority. Not so much in the black community.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
All the witnesses were his buddies, who were also ghetto trash. That made me believe that he was guilty and deserved to be put down was what he was doing not 30 minutes prior. He was robbing a convenience store. Now stealing is not something that warrants the death penalty, but violence against people who have done you no harm certainly is. He sealed his fate in my eyes when he decided to assault the convenience clerk, who was 1/3rd his size. Based on his violence which was caught on video, I'm more inclined to believe the cop's story, rather than the story given by his neighbors.

Also, don't forget that his family got into a huge public, violent brawl over who could sell RIP Michael Brown shirts. The whole lot of them isn't worth a gram of shyt, and the world would be a better place if they all just disappeared from this planet.
Forensics proved him deserving of what he got. Even Holders DOJ couldnt twist those facts. Fight a cop and start to win this is what happens, police arent there to participate in a fair fight
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unsurprisingly the article neglected to mention that cops, all else equal are substantially more likely to use force against blacks. "look at this smart black man find evidence the liberal narrative! then we discard the stuff that obviously proves the contrary"
Moreover, the results do not mean that the general public’s perception of racism in policing is misguided. Lethal uses of force are exceedingly rare. There were 1.6 million arrests in Houston in the years Mr. Fryer studied. Officers fired their weapons 507 times. What is far more common are nonlethal uses of force.

And in these uses of force, Mr. Fryer found racial differences, which is in accord with public perception and other studies.

In New York City, blacks stopped by the police were about 17 percent more likely to experience use of force, according to stop-and-frisk records kept between 2003 and 2013. (In the later year, a judge ruled that the tactic as employed then was unconstitutional.)

That gap, adjusted for suspect behavior and other factors, was surprisingly consistent across various levels of force. Black suspects were 18 percent more likely to be pushed up against a wall, 16 percent more likely to be handcuffed without being arrested and 18 percent more likely to be pushed to the ground.

Even when the police said that civilians were compliant, blacks experienced more force.

Mr. Fryer also explored racial differences in force from the viewpoint of civilians, using data from a nationally representative survey conducted by the federal government. Here, he found racial gaps in force that were larger than those he found in the data reported from the officers’ perspective. But these gaps were also consistent across many different types of force.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...s.html?mcubz=1
If you ever need an argument settled, once and for all, just ask a Harvard professor to conduct a study. They do it right. And, to their credit, they report on the results–even when those results don’t support their own agendas.
except you know, when they publish on pesky topics like climate change and suddenly they're part of the globalist cabal waging war against freedom-loving men.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
All the witnesses were his buddies, who were also ghetto trash. That made me believe that he was guilty and deserved to be put down was what he was doing not 30 minutes prior. He was robbing a convenience store. Now stealing is not something that warrants the death penalty, but violence against people who have done you no harm certainly is. He sealed his fate in my eyes when he decided to assault the convenience clerk, who was 1/3rd his size. Based on his violence which was caught on video, I'm more inclined to believe the cop's story, rather than the story given by his neighbors.

Also, don't forget that his family got into a huge public, violent brawl over who could sell RIP Michael Brown shirts. The whole lot of them isn't worth a gram of shyt, and the world would be a better place if they all just disappeared from this planet.
The hands up BS was shown false a long time ago. It never happened. That some are still so clueless about that event and think it did, shows us why we have these problems right now, cuz feels over facts every time. Fark, if people took 5 mins to look.
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Originally Posted By Ryan1021⏩
Here is the thing that never gets mentioned when they talk about blacks being killed in disproportion numbers by the police.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.13a41eb487ca

So let's unpack that. If we call blacks in the US 13% of the population they are killing police officers at a rate disproportionate to their percentage of the population. You figure the majority of the killing were done by males and that number jumps even more because you have lets say 7% of the population committing, conservatively, over 1/3 of all police killings.
More proof that call volume is the missing link. Why were the police there. Very important fact. The black community in metropolitan areas litterally terrorizes their own people nearly 24/7. Police are called in to attempt to prevent it and thusly are involved by the numbers.
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You mean the CIA drug lords are the ones terrorizing such places.
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
All the witnesses were his buddies, who were also ghetto trash. That made me believe that he was guilty and deserved to be put down was what he was doing not 30 minutes prior. He was robbing a convenience store. Now stealing is not something that warrants the death penalty, but violence against people who have done you no harm certainly is. He sealed his fate in my eyes when he decided to assault the convenience clerk, who was 1/3rd his size. Based on his violence which was caught on video, I'm more inclined to believe the cop's story, rather than the story given by his neighbors.
New footage from the store disputes that... one that was strategically hidden from sheeple like you.
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Also, don't forget that his family got into a huge public, violent brawl over who could sell RIP Michael Brown shirts. The whole lot of them isn't worth a gram of shyt, and the world would be a better place if they all just disappeared from this planet.
What about the tradie that was caught on tape after the shooting and his body language?
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Forensics proved him deserving of what he got. Even Holders DOJ couldnt twist those facts. Fight a cop and start to win this is what happens, police arent there to participate in a fair fight
We are to believe what forensics?... over the word of dozens of witnesses.
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Originally Posted By VTheKing⏩
unsurprisingly the article neglected to mention that cops, all else equal are substantially more likely to use force against blacks. "look at this smart black man find evidence the liberal narrative! then we discard the stuff that obviously proves the contrary"



https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...s.html?mcubz=1



except you know, when they publish on pesky topics like climate change and suddenly they're part of the globalist cabal waging war against freedom-loving men.
Had to use force hundreds of times throughout career. Maybe only a couple times on whites. Fact is most calls do not involve them. How does that equate to more likely by race? More likely by interaction volume...crime infested and impoverished.
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
We are to believe what forensics?... over the word of dozens of witnesses.
So, you believe the witnesses that say he attacked the police officer and did not put his hands up? cool
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
More proof that call volume is the missing link. Why were the police there. Very important fact. The black community in metropolitan areas litterally terrorizes their own people nearly 24/7. Police are called in to attempt to prevent it and thusly are involved by the numbers.
You got that right. This came out last week about the rise in murders in the US in 2016 over 2015.
Chicago, the nation’s third-biggest city, accounted for 22% of the nationwide increase with 765 murders last year, more than the number of murders in the largest city, New York (334), and the second-largest, Los Angeles (294), combined. The vast majority of these killings happened in five mostly black and Latino neighbourhoods on the south and west side where only 9% of the 2.7m city lives.
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
You mean the CIA drug lords are the ones terrorizing such places.
New footage from the store disputes that... one that was strategically hidden from sheeple like you.
What about the tradie that was caught on tape after the shooting and his body language?

We are to believe what forensics?... over the word of dozens of witnesses.
Well yes...science doesnt have opinions. And there werent dozens of witnesses. There were about half dozen for both sides. Impartial and black witnesses gave an account of what happened matching darren wilsons account and the science verifying it.

Dude got smoked because he asked for it. His homeboy that gave the hands up account on the news didnt dare give it to the grand jury or the feds. Because lie lol pew pew pew
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
So, you believe the witnesses that say he attacked the police officer and did not put his hands up? cool
We cognitive dissonance now
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
So, you believe the witnesses that say he attacked the police officer and did not put his hands up? cool
Show your sources, I posted mine in the last page.
Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Well yes...science doesnt have opinions. And there werent dozens of witnesses. There were about half dozen for both sides. Impartial and black witnesses gave an account of what happened matching darren wilsons account and the science verifying it.

Dude got smoked because he asked for it. His homeboy that gave the hands up account on the news didnt dare give it to the grand jury or the feds. Because lie lol pew pew pew
How many stating Wilson's case? state your sources... this is the only witness caught on video relaying what happened.

White Construction workers witness Mike Brown being shot with hands up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfbbt6DvHg
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
Show your sources, I posted mine in the last page.


How many stating Wilson's case? state your sources... this is the only witness caught on video relaying what happened.

White Construction workers witness Mike Brown being shot with hands up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfbbt6DvHg
DOJ report, grand jusry proceedings etc.

I'm not fishing **** for you. In your pursuit for logic you should have come accross it. You're either trolling or lazy
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
Show your sources, I posted mine in the last page.


How many stating Wilson's case? state your sources... this is the only witness caught on video relaying what happened.

White Construction workers witness Mike Brown being shot with hands up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfbbt6DvHg
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Summarize your winning points.

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Well my witness list source on page one and the witness video do it for me... another police state murder.
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Arashi, you're an idiot. I'm pretty vocal about my distaste for the antics of cops fairly often (hawkeye and that dave22 might be able to support this claim), but you're looking like an idiot itt.
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I brought facts here...
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There have been countless studies disproving the myth that blacks are treated worse by police than other races.

TWICE as many whites are killed by cops than blacks.

Liberals don't wan a hear it though. They need their blacks to be victims so they can prolong the narrative.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
lol libcucks...of course dont ignore the many studies that demonstrate prejudice in sentencing tho...there is racial bias in the justice system...
Nope. Complete myth.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/4847/6...t-ben-shapiro#
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- White police office kills a 40 year old felon that has been in and out of jail OMFG protest burn vandilise this is CRAZY we cant allow this


What the ****?? So clearly to BLM group some little kid that was killed by a black person and who had their whole life ahead of them means alot less then some felon who was arristing arrest or borderline resisting arrest. Worse yet 19 blacks lives dont matter as long as their are killed by a black person. MIND = BLOWN
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
Summarize your winning points.
"No true bill"

And

Declination of federal prosecution.



Lol
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
"No true bill"

And

Declination of federal prosecution.



Lol
No true Bill of Rights for blacks thats for sure... I believe it states that only Caucasians are considered human in the Constitution was it?
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I don't necessarily believe in numbers. I still think blacks are more likely to get pulled and/or shot. That bad stigma of being a thug rapper/drug dealer. It's just hard for me to believe it's balanced out.

What areas of California, Texas, Florida did they study and what were the %s? Of course 1 race is gonna get shot more because they're dominate
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
No true Bill of Rights for blacks thats for sure... I believe it states that only Caucasians are considered human in the Constitution was it?
Not currently. 3/5ths was there before and it was to tamp racist slaveowners using their slave stock to ramp votes for Democrats, the party of slavery and now modern day oppression.
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Originally Posted By Arashi⏩
No true Bill of Rights for blacks thats for sure... I believe it states that only Caucasians are considered human in the Constitution was it?
You can't honestly be this stupid.
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Originally Posted By AndYUKnowThis⏩
I don't necessarily believe in numbers. I still think blacks are more likely to get pulled and/or shot. That bad stigma of being a thug rapper/drug dealer.
Good, numbers arent real. They tell us nothing like my majority minority department is racist against its own race

Dont be stupid. Numbers are key to everything.
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