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post 1536690361 12-06-2017, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
WTF!? How is this reality? Do they refund your membership fees if they shame you out? Do they also sound the alarm when a hot woman shows up, making the other women feel bad about their bodies?
Anyone who lifts seriously shouldn’t be in Planet Fitness anyway.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Nonsense. Worked in and around gyms for 30 years, and that was not the model for a single one. There are some chains that have that model, not a one I'm aware of takes it to the level of PF however. I have memberships to two chains right now (Anytime and LA Fitness) and they operate nothing like PF. Never had a Golds, nor a Worlds, etc follow that model.
Anytime and LA Fitness run this exact business model, they just charge more because people are generally stupid and will continue to pay money for services they don't use that often (classes, "free" training, sauna, pools, etc). This is the exact premise of any subscription based service. If you worked in and around gyms for 30 years, stop being naive.
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Originally Posted By Layne205⏩
WTF!? How is this reality? Do they refund your membership fees if they shame you out? Do they also sound the alarm when a hot woman shows up, making the other women feel bad about their bodies?
Yes, yes they do:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5002658.html

People don't seem to "get" just how fu&#d that place can be.
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Originally Posted By railgunner22⏩
down to the shirt, LMAO.
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post 1536691191 12-06-2017, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Anytime and LA Fitness run this exact business model, they just charge more because people are generally stupid and will continue to pay money for services they don't use that often (classes, "free" training, sauna, pools, etc). This is the exact premise of any subscription based service. If you worked in and around gyms for 30 years, stop being naive.
Stop being clueless. I was an manager of one gym chain when you were jiz and ran a PT biz out of Worlds Gym for a decade. You have no idea what you're talking about. That a large % of people who get a membership will rarely to never use it is typical of the industry, and well known, which is a very different thing than intentionally targeting those who will not use their memberships. That you can't seem to get the difference is why PF exists at all. Sad.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Correction, contracts and members not showing up so the place is never full. Ok maybe in January.
Exactly.
Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Nonsense. Worked in and around gyms for 30 years, and that was not the model for a single one. There are some chains that have that model, not a one I'm aware of takes it to the level of PF however. I have memberships to two chains right now (Anytime and LA Fitness) and they operate nothing like PF. Never had a Golds, nor a Worlds, etc follow that model.
A gym with 100 people signed to a year contract with automatic monthly membership withdrawal where most drop out after a few months

vs

A gym that has 100 people sign up month to month and never come back after a few months

Which is going to put more money in the owner's pocket? They'd be dumb not to do it that way.
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Looks like he doesn't miss many pizza mondays.

Fuk it, hes rich now who cares.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Yes, yes they do:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5002658.html

People don't seem to "get" just how fu&#d that place can be.
I'm sure they pull stunts like this in part to attract members. Any publicity is good publicity.

I also think there is a segment of the population who are better-served by lower-intensity workouts. You can be healthy and fit without pushing yourself to the max all the time.
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post 1536692851 12-06-2017, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By KurtMussell⏩
A gym with 100 people signed to a year contract with automatic monthly membership withdrawal where most drop out after a few months

vs

A gym that has 100 people sign up month to month and never come back after a few months

Which is going to put more money in the owner's pocket? They'd be dumb not to do it that way.
Apparently you can't differentiate scum bag biz approaches with simple profit. The former can be very profitable. I never claimed otherwise. It's a model that's profitable to be sure, but it's not a model used, to that level, as PF does, by most other chains, to varying degrees. All your above example does is confirm that.

It's much more profitable to claim X dose on a label of a supplement, and not actually have that dose in the supplement too. Happens all the time. That also makes you a scum bag supp biz owner.

Again, the two are not mutually exclusive concepts.
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
"The alarm is no joke. When a "lunk" is found traipsing around a Planet Fitness location, employees trigger ambulance-style flashing lights and screeching sirens. Bodybuilders inevitably flee in embarrassment … and usually proceed to write seething comments about the company on message boards."



Which miscer are they talking about?
So, the lunk alarm is not to keep "lunks" under control while in the gym, it is to piss off people that actually work out into giving them free advertisement on message forums.

Dddddaaannnngggg!! We've all been bamboozled! Here you thought you were giving fair warning to people to stay away from Planet Fitness, but really fat out of shape people will read it and think.....that's the gym for me.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
I'm sure they pull stunts like this in part to attract members. Any publicity is good publicity.

I also think there is a segment of the population who are better-served by lower-intensity workouts. You can be healthy and fit without pushing yourself to the max all the time.
Geez, some of the comments here confirm why people are so damn easy to BS and scam. Exhibit A ...
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
i learned that their entire business model depends on people actuallynotgetting results. Pretty fuking genius
This. They, litterly, have pizza parties, candy parties, bagel parties etc... no sh!t
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Originally Posted By AmIGoodNuff⏩
"The alarm is no joke. When a "lunk" is found traipsing around a Planet Fitness location, employees trigger ambulance-style flashing lights and screeching sirens. Bodybuilders inevitably flee in embarrassment … and usually proceed to write seething comments about the company on message boards."



Which miscer are they talking about?
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Geez, some of the comments here confirm why people are so damn easy to BS and scam. Exhibit A ...
Look, I wouldn't join there, but I have a friend who's a member and I TRIED to get her into more legit lifting/working out--she doesn't want to do it. But consistently going in and doing 40 minutes on the elliptical plus some abs stuff is better for her than doing NOTHING, or than injuring her back, which is what happened last time she tried to squat on her own. I felt bad about that srs, she wouldn't have been trying that if I hadn't shown her in person.
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What’s the problem?

I think it’s great when the owners actually use the product and reflect the average customer
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And Nike was created by fat, out of shape and disabled people


I'm mirin his ability to differentiate from other gyms and made him a ton of money.. If you hate on the gym
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The post workout pizza and bagels planet fitness offers are so awesome. You just spent 30 minutes on the elliptical, you need to replenish.
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Originally Posted By shesprints⏩
Look, I wouldn't join there, but I have a friend who's a member and I TRIED to get her into more legit lifting/working out--she doesn't want to do it. But consistently going in and doing 40 minutes on the elliptical plus some abs stuff is better for her than doing NOTHING, or than injuring her back, which is what happened last time she tried to squat on her own. I felt bad about that srs, she wouldn't have been trying that if I hadn't shown her in person.
All of which has nadda to do with the discussion on PF and their business tactics.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Yes, yes they do:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...n_5002658.html

People don't seem to "get" just how fu&#d that place can be.
Wow LMAO. It has to be the free publicity angle. There's no other explanation.
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Guys come on hes just Bulking, its off season.



But srs, I just got a membership about 2 months ago at PF. I go 3x a week never once have I had pizza/bagels/candy. I keep my head down i go, i work out, i leave.
It is the only gym near my that isnt some bs "classes gym" or "personal training only" place. It fits my budget and is convenient.

All that being said I definitely agree I am not their target audience at all but it does work for me.(right now)
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Apparently you can't differentiate scum bag biz approaches with simple profit. The former can be very profitable. I never claimed otherwise. It's a model that's profitable to be sure, but it's not a model used, to that level, as PF does, by most other chains, to varying degrees. All your above example does is confirm that.

It's much more profitable to claim X dose on a label of a supplement, and not actually have that dose in the supplement too. Happens all the time. That also makes you a scum bag supp biz owner.

Again, the two are not mutually exclusive concepts.
Reread my original quote of yours - here, I'll copypasta it for you:

"It depends on people not going to the gym and paying just enough per month to not close the account, and when you go to close the account, they make it a big PITA."

I never mentioned food, I never mentioned PF in my initial response. The sentence of your which I quoted doesn't mention those things either - Does PF take it a step further? Sure. That wasn't the point of my post, hence not mentioning PF. I was pointing out that having people not go to the gym after they sign up is how gyms make their money. Any gym I've ever gone to has had contracts - once you sign up and they have your money on automatic withdrawal, they don't care if you return.

To say it's nonsense that most gyms use this as a business model is, well, nonsense. Gyms use the non-committal common folk to stay afloat.


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Just lol. I once walked into a pf with a friend and the manager told me that since I was wearing a stringer I had to leave, meanwhile 400 lb rednecks were jerking their 70 pound dumbbells while wearing cut offs down to their hips and their rolls hung out.

I went on another trip and the same manager told me that I would have to leave if i didn't stop "training" people. I was just lifting with a buddy.

Never again pf never again.
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Having a god tier physique doesn't mean you know how to be a great business man

How many personal trainers are on dyel mode but have lots of clients?

all about smart marketing which planet fitness does well
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Originally Posted By KurtMussell⏩
I was pointing out that having people not go to the gym after they sign up is how gyms make their money. Any gym I've ever gone to has had contracts - once you sign up and they have your money on automatic withdrawal, they don't care if you return..
Agreed on all that, but that's not the business model we're discussing in regards to PFs approach vs others. There's a major difference in how PF approaches the biz vs the others. You're comment was they all follow the PF approach, and that's not correct. Now, other d bags, seeing PF making $ have started to follow some of it, but none of the major chains I have worked in or trained in, actively targeted those who will never use the gym astheir target market, ban anyone who even looks like they may use legit weight, lunk alarms, etc, etc. This is a must see. It's LOL and sad, and you'd think it was a joke, but it's legit. I was contacted by the producers of the segment. I didn't make it on the show, but was tapped as a source for them to follow up, details, etc. Watch for the LOLs and "WTF?" and tell me of another chain like that:

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Make a cheap gym facility that depends on people not showing up or using the equipment, people not making any actual results and encourages people to stay unfit year after year while still boasting they go to a gym?

Perfect business model.
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