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post 1541664861 01-24-2018, 06:23 AM
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Not a big fan of sugar anyway tbh, at least aside from gatorade pre-workout and simple sugars post workout. Always feel like horse chit an hour or so after a meal where I consume mainly sugar.
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post 1541665011 01-24-2018, 06:25 AM
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CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO AVOID SUGAR?

Fruits has sugar...
Milk has sugar...


I can stay away from most sugary things if I tried but fruit and sugar? No way!
post 1541665181 01-24-2018, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted By journeyboy⏩
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO AVOID SUGAR?

Fruits has sugar...
Milk has sugar...


I can stay away from most sugary things if I tried but fruit and sugar? No way!
Yep become a "label" nut...There are about thirty different ingredient names they use for sugar. You basically have to eat fresh fruits and unprocessed meats to avoid it.

List of names they use for sugars.

https://whole30.com/downloads/whole30-sugar.pdf




Just Plain Sugar
•______ Sugar (brown sugar, cane sugar, raw sugar, beet sugar, confectioner’s sugar, etc.)
•______ Syrup (high fructose corn syrup, malt syrup, refiner’s syrup, rice syrup, etc.)

Science-y Names for Sugar
•Dextrose
•Disaccharide
•Fructose
•Glucose
•Galactose
•Lactose
•Maltodextrin
•Maltose
•Monosaccharide
•Polysaccharide
•Ribose
•Saccharose
•Sucrose

“Natural” Sugars
•Agave Nectar
•Coconut Nectar
•Coconut Sugar
•Date Sugar
•(Evaporated) Cane juice
•Fruit Juice*
•Honey
•Maple Syrup
•Molasses
•Rice Malt (extract)
•(Sweet) Sorghum
•Treacle
post 1541665261 01-24-2018, 06:29 AM
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#truth


I was borderline diabetic and waaaaaaay fater than I am now, did keto for a couple months and my glucose levels just dropped, my blood pressure dropped, my cholesterol dropped BUT still when the Doc asked me what I was doing he told me that eating too much fat and protrein was unhealthy that I needed carbs (grains, bread, cereals) in my diet to be balanced (u wot m8?) So I agreed and just continued with keto and didn't tell him. Also aside from the weightloss and glucose and BP normalizing, my skin cleared up.
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post 1541665311 01-24-2018, 06:29 AM
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brb sun is killing you
brb sugar is killing you
brb air is killing you
brb beef is killing you
brb time will kill you

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post 1541665501 01-24-2018, 06:33 AM
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I'm not big on candy, cakes, or sugary foods, but Cokes have been one of the hardest things I've ever tried to quit - topping nicotine, illicit drugs (back in the day), etc.

One of these days...
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post 1541665511 01-24-2018, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
brb sun is killing you
brb sugar is killing you
brb air is killing you
brb beef is killing you
brb time will kill you

might as well ldar
I agree with you to a large extent...My rebuttal to the idea that everything is killing us is that sugar directly impacts your quality of life today. You can notice significant improvements in your health if you just stop sugar for a week.
post 1541665641 01-24-2018, 06:36 AM
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seen this earlier. apparently if you eat a diet rich in sugar you can expect to live no longer than 110 years old. pretty sad to be honest.
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Everyone itt talking about vast improvements in their life with no sugar.


But everyone I know who does it is a grumpy moody fuk that snaps at everyone.
post 1541665921 01-24-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
It is not good but there is another bitter truth, we like processed foods.

I work with food manufacturers and my bro in law is an FDA consultation for a large grain producer; we are pigs in the US and it’ll never change.

4% of the population care about this chit and the rest are indifferent or don’t care at all. General Mills took feedback from a few customers that they wanted “more organic, natural components so they changed their formula for Trix cereal. It changed the flavor and color of the product and the sales plummeted in weeks...they switched it back to the processed, sugary chit and sales went right back to normal.

Food manufacturers give us what we want...not what “they cram down our throats”...it’s about education and personal choice and many don’t want to accept that.
Pure horse**** and you know it. When youve already fukked people up and made them addicted to your sugary cereal. Wtf do you think will happen when they take the sugar out? Fukking dumbass.
post 1541665951 01-24-2018, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Broksi96⏩
inb4 eriktheelectric, dude just ate 8 boxes of cereal in his last video
Did he really eat it this time?
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Impossible to cut out all sugar, limit sugar intake is more realistic..
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Originally Posted By journeyboy⏩
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO AVOID SUGAR? Fruits has sugar... Milk has sugar...
I can stay away from most sugary things if I tried but fruit and sugar? No way!
Limit your intake of sugar, yes, but there is no reason to avoid milk or fruitin moderation(fructose addressed earlier in this thread in my previous post).

But, the situation is similar with milk...galactose, or milk sugar, tends to be metabolized similarly to fructose in the body (is it’s dealt with in the liver), and unlessmassiveamounts are being consumed is not going to pose a risk.
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so what there fukc is there to eat? reading thread while op probably gulping down a slurpee
post 1541666551 01-24-2018, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
You can notice significant improvements in your health if you just stop sugar for a week.
You can probably make some improvement, but a more realistic approach is to eliminate processed stuff. Reading through the thread ppl are saying even sugar from fruit will kill you, which is kinda the reasoning for my response.
If we avoided eating everything that's killing us we'd eventually starve anyway.
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post 1541666801 01-24-2018, 06:52 AM
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That's all BS, OP. Sugar is a fantastic source of energy, and it is ultimately exactly what our body needs to survive. Too much sugar can damage your teeth and cauase you to gain weight, but that's about it. The wrong kinds of sugar can be harmful in excess amounts, but sucrose can hardly be considered bad for you.
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Originally Posted By KramericaInd⏩
so what there fukc is there to eat? reading thread while op probably gulping down a slurpee
Fruits, vegetables, meats, not saying you can't have a donut or eat some cereal but the key is moderation, we all under estimate how much sugar we eat per day, (because no one ever measures cereal when eating a bowl, just pour and stop, or eat just the serving stated in the back of a candy, just eat until the package is done.)

The World health organization recommends 25g, which is around 5% of your daily intake but in the US the USDA recommends that nearly 50% of your intake should be carbs (counting in veggies, grains, fruits, and bread) if you follow WHOs guideline you are only able to eat one measured serving of cereal with milk per day to meet your sugar intake). Everything in a shelf has added sugars, hidden sugars, and like they posted above they go by many different names.
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Originally Posted By atomicbbgum⏩
Fruits, vegetables, meats, not saying you can't have a donut or eat some cereal but the key is moderation, we all under estimate how much sugar we eat per day, (because no one ever measures cereal when eating a bowl, just pour and stop, or eat just the serving stated in the back of a candy, just eat until the package is done.).
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http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/0...tose-alarmism/

Check out Alan Aragon's rebuttal. Basically, yes, fructose is bad in large quantities. However, it really isn't that big of a deal. Sugar is not killing you. It is a valuable source of energy keeping you alive. You can be healthy on a higher fat or higher carb diet. It's more about avoiding foods with harmful additives and eating foods rich in micronutrients. Even our beloved protein can be very harmful if consumed in excess. Avoiding obesity mainly comes down to rationing the macronutrients appropriately.

People act like sugar is poison. It is literally food that helps you make the ATP you need.

Also fyi, carbs don't get significantly turned to fat. De novo lipogenesis rates are very low even with overfeeding. The fat you eat is the fat you keep. The thing is if you eat too many carbs, your body will dump a lot of insulin and cause you to take up and store fat. You also won't be using that fat much because your body prefers carbs.

It is best to eat a relatively low carb diet, but load up on simple carbs shortly before and after serious workouts. Basically, give your body the fuel it needs when it needs it, but don't overdo it.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
wuddif i told u some of us track what we eat.
Not talking about the people that track what the eat (as I do as well) but I'm talking about our parents, brothers, friends, they don't weight their food or measure it, just scoop/pour until it looks like enough.
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Its good at certain times......post workout for example is the only time to have it.
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If you avoid sugar you're going to go into ketosis. The brain will switch from burning glucose to burning ketones from stored fat. Red blood cells always need glucose though, so your body will start breaking down muscle mass to convert into glucose to feed your blood cells. While in ketosis your body will produce more HGH though, so muscle muscle is minimized compared to fat loss, but you will still lose some muscle regardless.
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Truth. Whats sad is its hard to find things without sugar added. My wife and I did the 10-day No sugar challenge to start the year and you really have to search for foods without sugar. Even simple things like bacon and lunch meats would have sugar added so we would have to watch the labels closely. It pretty much comes down to cooking your own food and getting your sugars from fruits and stuff.
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I think I am cursed to live a long life no matter what I do. Might as well keep eating chocolate+peanutbutter ice-cream and all the other sugary stuff. Been doing it all my life. Not diabetic, not overweight, clear skin, lean and muscularly defined.
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ppl like it because its addictive, make them feel happy
but sadly alot of it causes physical stress, not to mention ppl cant tolerate non-sugary food

i bet it will be regulated in future, and will be labeled like ciggs


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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
Do we really need to post up any of the hundreds of links of research from universities such as UCLA, Harvard, etc et they've conducted on sugar. Sugar has been proven to impact everything from your endocrine system, to your cardiac systems to your cognitive abilities...There is clear evidence sugar is screwing you up from head to toes..
No there isn't. A lot of that research is taken out of context or pure garbage.
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
Do we really need to post up any of the hundreds of links of research from universities such as UCLA, Harvard, etc et they've conducted on sugar. Sugar has been proven to impact everything from your endocrine system, to your cardiac systems to your cognitive abilities...There is clear evidence sugar is screwing you up from head to toes..
there isn't. the evidence is extremely weak. burden of truth is on the anti-sugar tinfoilers to show that when calories/lifestyle are controlled, sugar itself is "toxic". You can't because it doesn't exist
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