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post 1545644911 03-06-2018, 03:23 AM
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There was a part where one of them was driving a car slowly for cover while another was shooting. Why did they not all get in and floor it? At least to see how far they got. Obviously I am not aware of the full context. When watching it I could not help but feel it may have been worth a shot.
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Feel nothing when watching these videos.. Americans have done much worse to way more people (many civilians) and it's the soldier's choice to die for their government in places they're not welcome
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
Feel nothing when watching these videos.. Americans have done much worse to way more people (many civilians) and it's the soldier's choice to die for their government in places they're not welcome
Simple phrase: You tend to love the people you live with.


works with all walks of life.
Surround yourself with like minded people.
Infidelities happen in the workplace.
If you're a immigrant, assimilate to the people.
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post 1545645131 03-06-2018, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted By CAWKS⏩
There was a part where one of them was driving a car slowly for cover while another was shooting. Why did they not all get in and floor it? At least to see how far they got. Obviously I am not aware of the full context. When watching it I could not help but feel it may have been worth a shot.
This, were they attacking from several sides?
Or were the soldiers unaware of how many enemies there were?
Or would the truck have been shredded before it got anywhere?
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Originally Posted By tgu⏩
Simple phrase: You tend to love the people you live with.


works with all walks of life.
Surround yourself with like minded people.
Infidelities happen in the workplace.
If you're a immigrant, assimilate to the people.
I don't get it wtf are you talking about?
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
Feel nothing when watching these videos.. Americans have done much worse to way more people (many civilians) and it's the soldier's choice to die for their government in places they're not welcome
Whilst you're not wrong, it's best not to say these things mane.
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
Feel nothing when watching these videos.. Americans have done much worse to way more people (many civilians) and it's the soldier's choice to die for their government in places they're not welcome
Those soldiers were literally living with and helping the local citizens, who they were welcomed by.

Yes, Americans have done worse. But generally speaking, the people America fight do much worse, intentionally.
Originally Posted By Nakmuay87⏩
This, were they attacking from several sides?
Or were the soldiers unaware of how many enemies there were?
Or would the truck have been shredded before it got anywhere?
Just based on how they were acting in the beginning it seems they were unaware of how many soldiers they were up against and how much firepower they were up against.

Pretty sure the truck was already pretty shredded when it was (barely) moving.

Can't say for sure why they did/didn't do anything, but these guys were more highly trained than anyone else on this board and whatever they did was 2nd nature based on their training.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Those soldiers were literally living with and helping the local citizens, who they were welcomed by.

Yes, Americans have done worse. But generally speaking, the people America fight do much worse, intentionally.
That's debatable but then we'd have to get into conspiracy theories and chit.. But I'm not hating on the soldiers, they are probably good people that think they're doing what's best for their country.. But it's 2018, anyone can research this chit and see the American government (and all other governments pretty much) don't give a fuk and will use their own people for profit..

I stumbled upon this song the other day and the stats in the video blew my mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM

I knew it was bad but not that bad.. How can you see all the facts, that old rich people profit from these wars and that they chit on you when you go back to the country you gave everything for, and still want to join the army blows my mind..

I would die any day for my family, and that's where I draw the line, fuk losing the one life I have for invisible lines and rich old reptilians (not literal reptilians lol)
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
That's debatable but then we'd have to get into conspiracy theories and chit.. But I'm not hating on the soldiers, they are probably good people that think they're doing what's best for their country.. But it's 2018, anyone can research this chit and see the American government (and all other governments pretty much) don't give a fuk and will use their own people for profit..

I stumbled upon this song the other day and the stats in the video blew my mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM

I knew it was bad but not that bad.. How can you see all the facts, that old rich people profit from these wars and that they chit on you when you go back to the country you gave everything for, and still want to join the army blows my mind..

I would die any day for my family, and that's where I draw the line, fuk losing the one life I have for invisible lines and rich old reptilians (not literal reptilians lol)
The soldiers on the ground honestly don't give a fuk about the government "using them". They're there for a mission, to help people, regardless of the "true" meaning of their presence. In their minds, they're there to help people and that's what they work to do. I don't agree with the war in Afghanistan. If I were suddenly magically president, every US soldier in Afghanistan would be home ASAP. That didn't stop me from doing my damned best to help the local Afghans while I was there and leave them with the best possible representation of America I could provide.

I've seen the sacrifices made first hand and I don't care what some old people think. I doubt any of the friends I lost cared either. You don't care what the government thinks of you. You care what your family, friends and peers think of you.

And it sounds cheesy because it's cliche now, but when you're in a firefight it's not risking your life for your country, you risk your life for your buddies, who are your new family. You know that if you die doing xyz, you will die protecting your new family, and your family back home would be proud of you and understand. It's for sure not for everyone, just trying to explain the mindset. These guys are not dumb guys being unknowingly used as pawns. They're smart men who volunteered and went through some of the hardest training in the world to be there.
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post 1545646151 03-06-2018, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
The soldiers on the ground honestly don't give a fuk about the government "using them". They're there for a mission, to help people, regardless of the "true" meaning of their presence. In their minds, they're there to help people and that's what they work to do. I don't agree with the war in Afghanistan. If I were suddenly magically president, every US soldier in Afghanistan would be home ASAP. That didn't stop me from doing my damned best to help the local Afghans while I was there and leave them with the best possible representation of America I could provide.

I've seen the sacrifices made first hand and I don't care what some old people think. I doubt any of the friends I lost cared either. You don't care what the government thinks of you. You care what your family, friends and peers think of you.

And it sounds cheesy because it's cliche now, but when you're in a firefight it's not risking your life for your country, you risk your life for your buddies, who are your new family. You know that if you die doing xyz, you will die protecting your new family, and your family back home would be proud of you and understand. It's for sure not for everyone, just trying to explain the mindset. These guys are not dumb guys being unknowingly used as pawns. They're smart men who volunteered and went through some of the hardest training in the world to be there.
I seriously doubt the majority of the soldiers are going with the intention to help the locals of other countries... but you sound like you've seen some chit, so I'm not gonna sit here like a spoiled millennial chithead and talk about things I don't know, this is just my opinion from internet research (you're probably loling at me at this point lol) so yeah
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
I seriously doubt the majority of the soldiers are going with the intention to help the locals of other countries... but you sound like you've seen some chit, so I'm not gonna sit here like a spoiled millennial chithead and talk about things I don't know, this is just my opinion from internet research (you're probably loling at me at this point lol) so yeah
If I was lol'ing at you I wouldn't be responding. I just like sharing my experiences with people because I think a lot of people misunderstand the mindset of soldiers on deployment, because I didn't until I was there. Also just explaining things. Some people might not agree or have a different view point but that's life.

I had absolutely zero intention to go to Afghanistan and help local Afghans. I went to fuk chit up. But once you get there and get these "help the locals" missions, it's like oh hey might as well give this my all, gonna be here anyways. About 50% of people end up thinking this even if they would rather fuk chit up. The other 40% or more still just want to fuk chit up but will pretend to want to help the locals because that's what the bosses there want. 10% of people are just dicks and will still be dicks no matter what.

You also live with at least some of the locals and contact them daily, so you get somewhat connected to them, even if it's mostly a "You're so dumb I hate you" relationship, you still realize they are people in need of help, and if you have any type of human feels you want to help them since you're in a position to.

Special Forces is entirely different because their entire mission statement involves around helping locals. Their whole mantra is "De oppresso liber" which means to free the oppressed. Their mission statement is literally to go to help the locals. This is what they train for. Yes they also do raids and all that movie stuff and train for that, but their primary mission is to assimilate with the local population and help them. It's a unique mission to Green Berets that SEALS/etc don't have.
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Lots of pieces of chits ITT. One of them alrdy pussed out when another brah called his welfare migrant ass.
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While it is true that Governments around the world can and do invite third parties (international organizations or countries) to assist in local capability development (security or military), this case appears to be a bit more controversial.

http://time.com/5187330/niger-attack-probe-approval/Apparently the lack of approval meant that force generation (to respond to) risk assessment was heavily impaired. They had no real idea what they were going up against.

To others questioning whether or not those persons were 'welcome' - they clearly were, and were meant to and/or did meet Niger Government officials. It is par for the course these days for Governments in some places to appeal to other Governments for assistance of this kind. Anyone who works in this sector knows that.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
If I was lol'ing at you I wouldn't be responding.
I lol'd at him.

Seems like a good thread to spend my five negs on today. Then the basement dwelling shyt talkers who have never even heard a gunshot can cry about red boxes in a forum CP.
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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah⏩
Or liveleak.
looks as if everything related to the video was takin down? Is there anything out there with sound? If Hillary was President we would've never heard a thing about this until years later like Benghazi
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
I lol'd at him.

Seems like a good thread to spend my five negs on today. Then the basement dwelling shyt talkers who have never even heard a gunshot can cry about red boxes in a forum CP.
Instead of responding with good information like AgRyan you had to be a retard.. Good job dipchit
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
Instead of responding with good information like AgRyan you had to be a retard.. Good job dipchit
Check your CP then come back and snivel again.
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
Check your CP then come back and snivel again.
Why would you think I give a chit about the neg when I insulted you before you negged me you dumb fuk? Seriously what is it with you rep traders thinking anyone gives a chit?

Also I just gave you a pity rep lmao
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
Why would you think I give a chit about the neg when I insulted you before you negged me you dumb fuk? Seriously what is it with you rep traders thinking anyone gives a chit?
And yet here you are crying about the neg. Very ironic. But go ahead and call me another name if it makes the tears go away.
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
And yet here you are crying about the neg. Very ironic. But go ahead and call me another name if it makes the tears go away.
You're the one who keeps mentioning negs and chit.. I just called you a retard for using woman logic and insulting me instead of responding to my statement.. I'm starting to doubt you ever fired a gun though, how does someone that has seen chit in combat go back to rep trade and talk chit on an online forum like a 12 year old?
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
You're the one who keeps mentioning negs and chit.. I just called you a retard for using woman logic and insulting me instead of responding to my statement.. I'm starting to doubt you ever fired a gun though, how does someone that has seen chit in combat go back to rep trade and talk chit on an online forum like a 12 year old?
lol- You have made my point for me.

You've completely gone unhinged over a red box in your CP. You can't let it go. Just imagine how unhinged you would become if you were up against overwhelming numbers and firepower like those SF guys were. But please... feel free to doubt me while continuing to peck at your keyboard from the safety of your home.
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ITT people unaware reticules, enemy heartbeat and noise sensors aren't real life and no rules about numbers.

Guys were surrounded and the enemy had light, belt-fed machine guns along with dozens of bullets every second. Plus they were not going to leave a man behind and the vehicle would be a death trap if all 4 got inside and drove off.

The command in charge of these men fuked up and the French air support was not called in to cover them till later. Whoever arranged for these ill-equipped soldiers to go after an ISIS target after a routine patrol and did not give adequate air cover should be removed permanently and kicked out of the military.
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
lol- You have made my point for me.

You've completely gone unhinged over a red box in your CP. You can't let it go. Just imagine how unhinged you would become if you were up against overwhelming numbers and firepower like those SF guys were. But please... feel free to doubt me while continuing to peck at your keyboard from the safety of your home.
Wtf you keep replying the same thing at anything I type...
Either troll or really, really stupid.. Either way my point isn't if you were actually in the army or not, that's irrelevant (think you're bullchitting though from the way you type) but that when someone posts a statement and you just reply with an insult saying you're gonna neg (this is what irony actually means btw) then you look like a retard.. But we're not going to get anywhere you're just going to repost the crying comment again so whatever man, at least I learned some good chit from the other dude who seemed to have actually been in the army..
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Pretty disturbing and sad.
War and combat is disturbing and sad. Maybe we should be exposed to more videos like this instead of romanticizing everything about it.
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Originally Posted By EmmaW4tson⏩
ITT people unaware reticules, enemy heartbeat and noise sensors aren't real life and no rules about numbers.

Guys were surrounded and the enemy had light, belt-fed machine guns along with dozens of bullets every second. Plus they were not going to leave a man behind and the vehicle would be a death trap if all 4 got inside and drove off.

The command in charge of these men fuked up and the French air support was not called in to cover them till later. Whoever arranged for these ill-equipped soldiers to go after an ISIS target after a routine patrol and did not give adequate air cover should be removed permanently and kicked out of the military.
Yeah it is a bit mind boggling with the abundant amount of resources the US military has that there wasn't air support ready as a moments notice for a special operations team in a foreign country.
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Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
lol- You have made my point for me.

You've completely gone unhinged over a red box in your CP. You can't let it go. Just imagine how unhinged you would become if you were up against overwhelming numbers and firepower like those SF guys were. But please... feel free to doubt me while continuing to peck at your keyboard from the safety of your home.
Lol at comparing a neg to a firefight???

Strong delusion
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