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03-08-2018, 05:49 PM
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You are better off getting an under powered first bike and then upgrading after a few months. If you buy used (You should) there will be no value lost.
Learning to get every bit of power you can from an underpowered bike will get you to be a better rider than starting out on a bike where a small wrist flick will fuk you over.
Learning to get every bit of power you can from an underpowered bike will get you to be a better rider than starting out on a bike where a small wrist flick will fuk you over.
03-08-2018, 05:53 PM
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How about you tell us the style of bike you want and we'll give you some recommendations. No sense in suggesting cruisers if you want a sport bike. Is this just a weekend local bike or something you would be able to comfortably take a trip on?
03-08-2018, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By BayHarborDexter⏩
Thanks. I'm very responsible with everything i do, so i think i could handle that.Ask yourself: "Will my parents trust me with a 3 year old flying across the Country?". If Not, get a 250. If so proceed....
Do not get anything lower than 600, those are just mopeds.
Reading online, people will tell you that 600's are too much for a beginner, BS. If you take it slow, you have some common sense, then go str8 to 600. 250's are a waste of money, unless you want something slow, then go for it. (Mistake I've made, got tired of it the 1st week).
Get you a nice used bike with original everything, it's hard to resell custom made bikes.
Call your insurance company, you'll be surprised how how high insurance is, make sure you can afford it.
Always wear your gear.
Enjoy!
Do not get anything lower than 600, those are just mopeds.
Reading online, people will tell you that 600's are too much for a beginner, BS. If you take it slow, you have some common sense, then go str8 to 600. 250's are a waste of money, unless you want something slow, then go for it. (Mistake I've made, got tired of it the 1st week).
Get you a nice used bike with original everything, it's hard to resell custom made bikes.
Call your insurance company, you'll be surprised how how high insurance is, make sure you can afford it.
Always wear your gear.
Enjoy!
03-08-2018, 07:54 PM
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03-08-2018, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeEagle12⏩
Never knew this. Thanks!you'll get a discount on your insurance while also getting your motorcycle license at the end (at least in Georgia)
03-08-2018, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Blueblob⏩
This. SV650 is a great bike to start on.Another vote for SV650
I have a Daytona 675r now and still wish I had the SV.
03-08-2018, 08:15 PM
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I’ve been riding for about 8 years now. I started on a 2001 Honda CBR600F4i. Pic related.
I bought it for $1,800 with about 15k miles on it, sold it a year later for $2,000 with 22k miles on it. There is no reason to NOT buy used for a starter bike as you can always resell it for pretty much what you paid when/if you outgrow it.
The CBR600RR should be pretty cheap now for the earlier years, if you’re into Hondas. Don’t worry about miles, I’ve had bikes with 20k that ran like champs.
Starting on a 600cc sport bike is fine, just keep a level head and know that the bike is capable of much more than you can handle. Ride like everyone is out to kill you and definitely take the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course, you’ll get your license after and it will also allow you to get a reduction in insurance.
Ride safe and let us know what you end up getting!
...as for insurance. Don’t get full coverage on a used starter bike, just get liability.
I bought it for $1,800 with about 15k miles on it, sold it a year later for $2,000 with 22k miles on it. There is no reason to NOT buy used for a starter bike as you can always resell it for pretty much what you paid when/if you outgrow it.
The CBR600RR should be pretty cheap now for the earlier years, if you’re into Hondas. Don’t worry about miles, I’ve had bikes with 20k that ran like champs.
Starting on a 600cc sport bike is fine, just keep a level head and know that the bike is capable of much more than you can handle. Ride like everyone is out to kill you and definitely take the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course, you’ll get your license after and it will also allow you to get a reduction in insurance.
Ride safe and let us know what you end up getting!
...as for insurance. Don’t get full coverage on a used starter bike, just get liability.
03-08-2018, 09:21 PM
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I'm now thinking about taking a course, getting my license, buying a Ninja 400 as a starter bike, and then sell it a year later and get something 600+
03-10-2018, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
You learn to ride better making a slow bike go fast. After a year of experience you will be comfortable enough to buy a brand new supersport and know you won't drop it in your drivewayI'm now thinking about taking a course, getting my license, buying a Ninja 400 to as a starter bike, and then sell it a year later and get something 600+
I started on a 250 and could smoke people on technical mountain roads. Until it straightened up and they go from 30 to 160 and my top speed is 105 Downhill
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03-10-2018, 04:18 PM
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I ain't reading through all the posts. What is your height and weight? Preferred style of bike?
If you're a big guy like me 6 ft 230 lbs, then don't start off on 250s and 300s. Way too underpowered for our build and you'd look ridiculous. Buy an older USED 600cc sport bikes like the CBR600F1-F4i and SV650. DON'T buy brand new as a new rider. You WILL drop the bike, not a matter of IF, but rather WHEN and WHERE. Don't be an idiot. Ride like everyone is drunk and out to kill you. Don't do stupid **** and endanger other people's lives.
Wear all your gear all the ****ing time. Helmet, gloves, boots, jacket, pants, and invest money into good gear. Don't be stupid and fall for the brand name marketing like Alpine*, Dainese, and ****. Bilt works just as good for reasonable cost. All the leather materials used for suits and jackets under premium brands is the same leather used for cheaper brands. ALL made in Pakistan.
If you're a big guy like me 6 ft 230 lbs, then don't start off on 250s and 300s. Way too underpowered for our build and you'd look ridiculous. Buy an older USED 600cc sport bikes like the CBR600F1-F4i and SV650. DON'T buy brand new as a new rider. You WILL drop the bike, not a matter of IF, but rather WHEN and WHERE. Don't be an idiot. Ride like everyone is drunk and out to kill you. Don't do stupid **** and endanger other people's lives.
Wear all your gear all the ****ing time. Helmet, gloves, boots, jacket, pants, and invest money into good gear. Don't be stupid and fall for the brand name marketing like Alpine*, Dainese, and ****. Bilt works just as good for reasonable cost. All the leather materials used for suits and jackets under premium brands is the same leather used for cheaper brands. ALL made in Pakistan.
03-10-2018, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
This is the smart decision OPI'm now thinking about taking a course, getting my license, buying a Ninja 400 as a starter bike, and then sell it a year later and get something 600+
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03-10-2018, 04:37 PM
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Seriously consider a Suzuki SV650. I've had everything from 50cc dirtbikes to 1000cc sport bikes and my favorite is hands down the '09 Sv650. It's faster than just about anything on the road yet are very manageable. I've taught many people (even girls) how to ride on that bike and not one dropped it.
They are cheap to insure and get excellent gas mileage. It would cost me $11 to fill up and would ride a solid 3 hours on the highway before needing to refill.
Top end is around 125 mph which is more than plenty. Also the bike is sexy af I've gotten many compliments on it.
I'm 5ft9 and i can touch the ground with the balls of both my feet, so it's a pretty good fitting bike from anyone 5ft6-6ft
Has enough torque to comfortably carry a fine sloot on the back as well
You can find low milage ones for 3-4k all day
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03-10-2018, 04:58 PM
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So when i'm ready to make a purchase, where would be the best places to look? Something like cycletrader.com, and motorcycle.autotrader.com?
03-10-2018, 05:19 PM
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We bought my son's off Craigs list. We didn't know much about them so I asked a neighbor/buddy who rode a lot to come check it out with us.
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03-10-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
Craigslist is a great place to look. You just have to be wary of the scams and if you find a bike you like make sure to bring someone who knows their ****. You could also ask the seller to take the bike to the mechanic to inspect it if you feel there's something wrong with it. Most likely the seller will make you pay for the inspection but the peace of mind is worth it.So when i'm ready to make a purchase, where would be the best places to look? Something like cycletrader.com, and motorcycle.autotrader.com?
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03-10-2018, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By smokinal⏩
I disagree man.It wouldn't be horrible. You just have to be the one to be honest with yourself as far as your riding skills.
Everybody can ride when it's an empty road or in a straight line. That doesn't mean schit tho.
And the guy recommending a gixxer600 to a beginner wtf. A gixxer is pretty much a track bike. I doubt anyone in this thread can ride a gixxer or any supersport to its true potential.
Riding a bike you can't have an ego. There's no bullschitting about. You fuk up and you'll pay.
People that wanna start on a big bike let's be honest, they are doing it only because they don't wanna be seen on a small bike. That's the ego right there. Which means you aren't in control of your ego, which means you're a high risk to yourself on a bike.
Start off on a small bike.
A 250 max. Learn to ride it properly.
Get proper tuition.
Learn about the mechanics of the bike, the traction, power control, counter steering, and most importantly road craft.
Get advanced training, and good safety gear.
Always wear your gear. Always.
Decide what type of bike you like
A cruiser?
Sports bikes?
Naked bikes???
Retro cafe?
When you ride a small bike to its limits THEN think about bigger bikes.
Bigger bikes aren't always better.
In a lot of scenarios a smaller bike is actually faster.
But if you wanna be an idiot jump on a fireblade or R1 and then panic around a corner cos you're going wide because you don't know about how to corner on the road (it's different from the track) wonder why you're going wide and you can't turn, hit the brakes and high side off a cliff, then go ahead. But don't expect any sympathy.
There's a reason why they so many people as called squids.
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03-10-2018, 08:00 PM
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Craigslist or ******** marketplace are probably the top two. There will be the scams but for some reason their prices are usually something absurdly low obviously and a weird number. For example $2763 or $1462, or weird symbols used in the listing title. Too good to be true is a rule to follow. Can always find a good deal, you can take a look at kbb and nada and pay quite a bit under those prices. They are a decent starting point to see if the price is in the ballpark to start with.
There are a few ninja 300's (2013+ are fuel injected) on Houston craigslist for $3k. Could talk all of them down. Obviously just hop on there and start looking around.
There are a few ninja 300's (2013+ are fuel injected) on Houston craigslist for $3k. Could talk all of them down. Obviously just hop on there and start looking around.
03-10-2018, 08:05 PM
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I got a used Victory Vegas 8-ball as my first bike. Lowballed a guy on ******** marketplace and got it for $4,000. Bike is bad ass, It has tons of power, I get lots of attention everywhere I go, couldn't be happier with my bike. I had no trouble with this as my first bike. Im glad I didn't buy a smaller bike as a "starter bike" thats a waste of time and money.
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03-10-2018, 08:08 PM
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Bought a rebel 500 a few months back. Well worth it. 471 cc dual. Im a cruiser guy myself. Like the style, posturing, and cheaper insurance.
Actually would recommend avoiding craigslist. Have bought my two previous bikes on craigslist and ******** market, a cbr 300 and rebel 250 respectively. Both had prior mechanical issues that were not addressed. A car is one thing, a bike is another.
And for the love of god get one at least 500 cc. You will learn quick and grow bored fast if you have anything less. The people who claim that they can buy a 250, then sell it shortly after becoming procient for a profit are either too optimistic or lying. Bikes generally depreciate slower than cars, but they still depreciate quick.
Actually would recommend avoiding craigslist. Have bought my two previous bikes on craigslist and ******** market, a cbr 300 and rebel 250 respectively. Both had prior mechanical issues that were not addressed. A car is one thing, a bike is another.
And for the love of god get one at least 500 cc. You will learn quick and grow bored fast if you have anything less. The people who claim that they can buy a 250, then sell it shortly after becoming procient for a profit are either too optimistic or lying. Bikes generally depreciate slower than cars, but they still depreciate quick.
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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
For a srs answer I'd look into getting a used supermoto, 600, or 650. If I could go back I would have started on a supermoto that I would have kept because lawd they are so much fukin fun to fuk around with on any aspect of motorcycle riding.I'm interested in taking a course and learning how to ride and getting my first bike.
Any recommendations for a good first bike for a novice? Here's what i'm looking for...
Something that's very reliable
Reasonably priced
Something that looks cool as fuk
Something that i wont grow out of very fast. I'd like something that once i become a better rider i can still stick with the bike and not become bored with it.
I appreciate any feedback.
Any recommendations for a good first bike for a novice? Here's what i'm looking for...
Something that's very reliable
Reasonably priced
Something that looks cool as fuk
Something that i wont grow out of very fast. I'd like something that once i become a better rider i can still stick with the bike and not become bored with it.
I appreciate any feedback.
If you're set on a sportbike design go with a kawasaki 636, If you want a bike that can throw down in twistiest, drifting, and stunting go with a supermoto, If you want a sportbike look without the speed of a sportbike go with a 650.
For specific bike recommendations feel free to ask in the cp and I'll link you to a post I made in the knee draggers thread.
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03-10-2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Snake955i⏩
So you are that guy?Don't listen to anyone recommending a 250cc/300cc, they're crap and you'll be bored of it after a week. Srs.
And the guys recommending Hayabusas or litre bikes are just messing... Or want to see you dead tbh.
Sweet spot is the 600cc sportsbike class or 650cc V twin class (my first bike was a Suzuki sv650s that I had for two years before getting a litre bike (Daytona 955i), tons of fun. And very forgiving as a new rider. From the former class, look at CBR 600s and GSXR 600s... I'd personally recommend an older CBR 600f4i.
But only you can determine which bike is right for you, try sitting on a bunch untill you find a riding position you find comfortable.
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And the guys recommending Hayabusas or litre bikes are just messing... Or want to see you dead tbh.
Sweet spot is the 600cc sportsbike class or 650cc V twin class (my first bike was a Suzuki sv650s that I had for two years before getting a litre bike (Daytona 955i), tons of fun. And very forgiving as a new rider. From the former class, look at CBR 600s and GSXR 600s... I'd personally recommend an older CBR 600f4i.
But only you can determine which bike is right for you, try sitting on a bunch untill you find a riding position you find comfortable.
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So you would recommend a Ferrari Italia to a first time driver?
It's not about being bored. You hone your skills on a smaller displacement bike then move up.
Australia got it right with a tiered system.
In the US you can basically go into a dealership and by a 9 second 200 MPH missile with no real experience.
Won't neg as you did end with gearing up.
OP, look at a twin cylinder bike, even the Fz07 can be a beast with it's low down torque
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03-10-2018, 08:40 PM
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Also it's not about being responsible it's about having the skillset to keep you alive and upright.
I have been riding longer than most people here have been alive and I still practice my figure 8s in lots whenever I get a chance.
I have been riding longer than most people here have been alive and I still practice my figure 8s in lots whenever I get a chance.
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03-10-2018, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By darkninja67⏩
This is true, honestly the problem with the bigger bikes isn't necessarily that you'll die unless you are full retard. It's more that you won't have any fun or be able to get better at riding because you will be terrified to actually ride the bike so you will never be able to develop the skills to safely ride it hard.Also it's not about being responsible it's about having the skillset to keep you alive and upright.
I have been riding longer than most people here have been alive and I still practice my figure 8s in lots whenever I get a chance.
I have been riding longer than most people here have been alive and I still practice my figure 8s in lots whenever I get a chance.
You'll turn into one of those *******s that takes it out 1-2 times a summer to ride around the block a few times before you sell it.
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03-10-2018, 08:54 PM
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I've ran through them all. Started on a Honda 50. You name it, 125/250/500/600 2 cycle & thumpers with a Fatbob last. Never liked the sport bike but a sv650 is not bad. The coolest bike in my opinion now is a motard (KTM dual sport for example). They're light and full of power.
03-10-2018, 09:07 PM
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Try a Yamaha XSR 700. You’ll be glad you did. Not too much power for a beginner yet enough not to be boring later in your riding career. Much flatter torque curve than the 600 sport bikes too.
03-10-2018, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By darkninja67⏩
250s and 300s are good for female riders and new riders who do not plan to commute by freeway. Or for veteran riders who want a small and light weight bike to throw around corners in twisties. Or on the track. But for full grown men who are 6 ft or above and weigh 200+ lbs, not ideal. I started on a 2002 ninja 250 three years ago and less than one month in, bought an F4i and was much happier. You'll learn just as much on an older 600 compared to the 250s and 300s.So you are that guy?
So you would recommend a Ferrari Italia to a first time driver?
It's not about being bored. You hone your skills on a smaller displacement bike then move up.
Australia got it right with a tiered system.
In the US you can basically go into a dealership and by a 9 second 200 MPH missile with no real experience.
Won't neg as you did end with gearing up.
OP, look at a twin cylinder bike, even the Fz07 can be a beast with it's low down torque
So you would recommend a Ferrari Italia to a first time driver?
It's not about being bored. You hone your skills on a smaller displacement bike then move up.
Australia got it right with a tiered system.
In the US you can basically go into a dealership and by a 9 second 200 MPH missile with no real experience.
Won't neg as you did end with gearing up.
OP, look at a twin cylinder bike, even the Fz07 can be a beast with it's low down torque
03-10-2018, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By jafomofo⏩
I had one of these and will attest to it being a fine bike.if you are 6' of taller consider the versys 650. Modest power, sporty, made for touring. You can shackle it but they sit kind of high by default.
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