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post 1546916161 03-20-2018, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
So it's liberals fault that you can't uphold your own values? Interesting, because I don't blame anyone else but myself for the values I keep.
No, it's liberals' fault that societies values are changing, and a christian should want everyone to hold christian values.
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post 1546916571 03-20-2018, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By sword_
I've met more spiritual atheists or those into eastern religion. Maybe not monotheism like Judao-Christianity teaches.

I do think there is a backlash against modern atheism right now because of how they present their arguments with a high level of pompousness, arrogance, and superiority.
So no facts, just feels. Because those facts... they state the opposite.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u...ess-religious/

Personally, I think it's you theists that are pompous and arrogant, but I won't go out of my way to say something like that without provocation. I'll leave it up to you to tilt at windmills.
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No, it's liberals' fault that societies values are changing, and a christian should want everyone to hold christian values.
Got it, Christians blame those that do not adhere to their faith, of failings within their own faith. Makes perfect sense.

And why should I care about what values some Christian wants me to uphold? I can accurately assume they are not concerned about values I think they should keep.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
So the litmus test for the growth of religiosity is posts on a forum?

Did you even read this? Are there "more" or "no more" talks/discussions? Unless you consider a "talk" and a "discussion" entirely different.

So it's liberals fault that you can't uphold your own values? Interesting, because I don't blame anyone else but myself for the values I keep.
As I said, other forums as well. Even Reddit or social media, talks of atheism around 5 years ago was rampant. Now, its rare. Even arguments.

More talks of religion than atheism. Its like theres a new found interest in religion, and seems like atheism wad just a fad for many online.

And what poster above me said.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
Got it, Christians blame those that do not adhere to their faith, of failings within their own faith. Makes perfect sense.

And why should I care about what values some Christian wants me to uphold? I can accurately assume they are not concerned about values I think they should keep.
You certainly don't have to care what values they desire you to have. And you can assume all you want, but that doesn't make it accurate.


Don't be so obtuse, categorizing like a billion people into one statement. What you're saying doesn't even make sense.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
So no facts, just feels. Because those facts... they state the opposite.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u...ess-religious/

Personally, I think it's you theists that are pompous and arrogant, but I won't go out of my way to say something like that without provocation. I'll leave it up to you to tilt at windmills.

Got it, Christians blame those that do not adhere to their faith, of failings within their own faith. Makes perfect sense.

And why should I care about what values some Christian wants me to uphold? I can accurately assume they are not concerned about values I think they should keep.
Can't tell if purposely ironic or not...
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Originally Posted By ChristmasFnatic
As I said, other forums as well. Even Reddit or social media, talks of atheism around 5 years ago was rampant. Now, its rare. Even arguments.

More talks of religion than atheism. Its like theres a new found interest in religion, and seems like atheism wad just a fad for many online.

And what poster above me said.
So your evidence that people must be moving towards Christianity is because of conversations on forums.

And you just called my belief a fad, and you wonder why people start talking about religion with people like you?
Originally Posted By residesinAZ
Can't tell if purposely ironic or not...
post 1546917161 03-20-2018, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
So no facts, just feels. Because those facts... they state the opposite.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u...ess-religious/

Personally, I think it's you theists that are pompous and arrogant, but I won't go out of my way to say something like that without provocation. I'll leave it up to you to tilt at windmills.

Got it, Christians blame those that do not adhere to their faith, of failings within their own faith. Makes perfect sense.
Why are you attacking me? It's just what I've been observing in different social circles.



People are tired of that. I think a lot of people fall on the lines of being agnostic. They don't want to identify with modern atheism
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Originally Posted By ChristmasFnatic
As I said, other forums as well. Even Reddit or social media, talks of atheism around 5 years ago was rampant. Now, its rare. Even arguments.

More talks of religion than atheism. Its like theres a new found interest in religion, and seems like atheism wad just a fad for many online.

And what poster above me said.
I think this has to do with the age of the users more than anything.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra
You certainly don't have to care what values they desire you to have. And you can assume all you want, but that doesn't make it accurate.


Don't be so obtuse, categorizing like a billion people into one statement. What you're saying doesn't even make sense.
Kinda of like how atheists are being categorized? Ok.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
Kinda of like how atheists are being categorized? Ok.
Where did that happen. I just said liberals are the culprits to certain societal changes that most Christians wouldn't agree with.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
So your evidence that people must be moving towards Christianity is because of conversations on forums.

And you just called my belief a fad, and you wonder why people start talking about religion with people like you?


I said “to many people online”. Not your belief itself. You seem to twist everything just to make it personal.

And that is why Im asking if its decreasing. Online discussions is a good way to gauge people’s interest.
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[QUOTE=sword_ post_id=1546917161]Why are you attacking me? It's just what I've been observing in different social circles.[/QUOTE]Attacking? Poumpous and arrogant were your words. That would make you a hypocrite.... and apparently a victim.

[QUOTE][img]https://i.imgur.com/GZT0leB.jpg[img][/QUOTE]I'm not asking you to prove your god, I'm asking you to prove something perfectly verifiable. You're too caught up in the same old rhetoric to see it.

People are tired of that. I think a lot of people fall on the lines of being agnostic. They don't want to identify with modern atheism[/QUOTE]Got it, so you are just saying things.
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah
Agnosticism is the only logical belief system
I know right? Because you can't prove that something doesn't exist.....
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
Attacking? Poumpous and arrogant were your words. That would make you a hypocrite.... and apparently a victim.

I'm not asking you to prove your god, I'm asking you to prove something perfectly verifiable. You're too caught up in the same old rhetoric to see it.

People are tired of that. I think a lot of people fall on the lines of being agnostic. They don't want to identify with modern atheism
Theist or atheist are equally "arrogant". It's just that atheist makes way more sense. Atheist's position is always asking theist to prove your belief since you are claiming something exist and atheist just don't believe in your statement.

It's the same as someone told you unicorn exists and you don't believe and ask that person to prove it. How is that more or less arrogant?
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I think it's just not as trendy anymore to be over the top atheist. And thank fuk for that tbh.
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new age militant atheists are worse than vegans
How about compared to no ******** crew?
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yeah, ever since SJWs included muslims under their umbrella bashing god stuff is no-no
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The whole point of atheism is "I don't know." It's not exactly an attractive way to draw people in. Only the true realists jump on board.
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Most people haven't sat down and reflected upon developing a fully fleshed out worldview anyway so I take the self-reported positions with a grain of salt. I would say that the trend continues to be more secular though.
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Originally Posted By acrawlingchaos
So no facts, just feels. Because those facts... they state the opposite.

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u...ess-religious/

Personally, I think it's you theists that are pompous and arrogant, but I won't go out of my way to say something like that without provocation. I'll leave it up to you to tilt at windmills.

Got it, Christians blame those that do not adhere to their faith, of failings within their own faith. Makes perfect sense.

And why should I care about what values some Christian wants me to uphold? I can accurately assume they are not concerned about values I think they should keep.
Actually the world is getting more and more religious with the exception of a few countries including the US, China, western Europe, etc. basically the US is paired with dictatorships and the ultra cucked countries with declining birth rates.

https://www.livescience.com/50370-wo...will-grow.html

Also interesting.

http://www.pewforum.org/2017/04/26/i...less-religion/

https://notashamedofthegospel.com/ap...stence-of-god/
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I know right? Because you can't prove that something doesn't exist.....
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Originally Posted By RICHSTRONG
I don't believe in Atheism
Atheism exists, prove it doesn't
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend
Atheism exists, prove it doesn't
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Originally Posted By Dominatorbrah
religion is needed and healthy for the mind. with the rise of atheism i also noticed a rise of depression on the internet. now that atheism is decreasing so is depression
So you're saying religion is cope?
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
That's not true in every case. I'm still part of a cult like christian religion engages in deep bible study two times a week and they still use that senseless circular reasoning. Not all bible readers are ignorant, but quite a few just find ways to twist the scriptures to fit their personal view of morality and life.

I'm agnostic by the way. I recently had my faith shattered by some disturbing facts. However I retain a small hope of a higher power, but I'm not devoting my life to it like I did before.

Religion will never go away, but I think it's influence will weaken as time goes on.
How does what you said make my statement any less true?
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Originally Posted By cookiefiend
Atheism exists, prove it doesn't
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People have started filling their religion holes with their political beliefs. Political extremism is trending much more than atheism is.
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It got boring. Atheism won, but that's not shocking since they have the better arguments and religion is based on faith and emotion.

The leaders of atheism basically push their political agendas and over time it's become less about debating religion and more about their personal political views.

Also like I've mentioned earlier, it's utterly boring now. Most atheists just regurgitate some line they've heard from Richard Dawkins, and then they think they are more intelligent than all religious people. I don't think theres anything more cringy, but there are definitely cringy believers too.
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Idk why someone would be atheist and not agnostic. Atheism is literally dumber than any other religion out there, and that's saying a lot. Hur der the universe just was deal with it, Big Bang etc. Once they get to the Big Bang aspect they've been fed for so long their brains just completely stop wondering how the Big Bang would even be possible without an architect of some sort. Well there was nothing then there was something. At least if you're agnostic you aren't an arrogent a-hole, and can admit that you have no idea how the universe came to be. Simulation theory, a god, either one makes more since then just saying there is nothing else to it. Maybe someone can explain to me why atheism would make more since then say the simulation theory?

Maybe I got atheism twisted somehow.
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