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post 1549453561 04-18-2018, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
They would have to apply the same rules to the military or it wouldn't make sense. It also shouldn't be illegal for people under 25 to hunt or protect their lives with a gun.
Military and police receive actual training and education for guns though. Not the same thing as some random 18 y/o punk who gets a gun
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I actually own a gun. I was able to purchase a GLOCK. I even take it to a Gander Mountain. So OP may be onto something here and has a point. Go on.
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Mental health screening and a few reference checks/thread
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Originally Posted By AfricanBrah⏩
Mental health screening and a few reference checks/thread
That's not how it works with rights.
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
Military and police receive actual training and education for guns though. Not the same thing as some random 18 y/o punk who gets a gun
Anyone can be educated. Making it illegal is saying it's not possible for under 25. This law would fail miserably. 99.99% of gun owners don't kill anyone.
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
Why should guns be given to dumb people?
The same way that dumb people have the right to make stupid threads.
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
Americanos, let me know what you think about gun control laws like this :


Minimum of 120 IQ to own gun
Must be at least 25 y/o
Must have a valid gun user licence, kind of like driving licence
LOL, no.

Not interested on restrictions on Constitutionally-guaranteed rights...
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post 1549454431 04-18-2018, 07:01 PM
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OP if you want to start "controlling" other peoples guns.

how about you start off by going to a gun owners residence, and demand that they relinquish their arms. Take one small step at a time. and then report back.
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I think the IQ test is flawed simply because most of these mass murderers would probably score higher than average

take the recent texas bomber, the guy knew how to construct and set off explosives. and the vegas guy was rich, successful and planned out that attack over several weeks. by those measures i'd say neither of those guys had a low IQ. people with low IQ lack that kind of structure in their lives

i'm also a believer that ignorance is bliss; on the higher extremes of IQ i'd bet a lot of those guys are miserable, depressed, and have antisocial tendencies
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Not sold on the IQ thing. Simply because I doubt that having a higher IQ necessarily makes someone more likely to responsibly use their guns. Sure you'd be less likely to be a criminal but there are enough dumb but responsible Southern ****s and smart but sociopathic ****s to make such a restriction pointless.

The obvious one for me is mental health issues.Anyform of mental health issue, eg. Depression, Bipolar, PTSD, literally anything should be an immediate and permanent disqualification from owing firearms. That's just common sense but I guarantee you there are people out there disagreeing with it.
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Minimum of 120 IQ to own gun - IQ has no correlation with behavior or values, stupid people can be morally righteous and geniuses can do horrible things. Also only about 10% of the population are eligible to own guns if this is the case, which completely removes the purpose of gun ownership.

Must be at least 25 y/o - Problem is we have 18 year olds who are able to enlist in the military and vote, how is this fair to them? And once again, why does age matter? You might argue people's brains are less developed, but in our culture there are dumbasses who have fully developed brains, and in contrast well disciplined children. The problem is raising your child to be an imbecile with a lack of values and not teaching gun safety. Back in the day adolescent boys had a strong father figure for discipline, and started apprenticeships/work (which occasionally included hunting) very early by today's standards. Additionally it was not uncommon to see young boys join the military.

Must have a valid gun user licence, kind of like driving licence - A reasonable test on the local level before purchase would make sense, but the problem with a license itself is that by registering someone's name in the system, the government knows who owns guns, thus making gun confiscation easier. Now you might say, "The government needs to take bad guy's guns away", and this is true, but what defines a "bad guy"? Anyone who is against your agenda could qualify. This allows the majority to oppress the minority, and even worse the government, or those in power to oppress anyone. Big government is great until it turns on you.

On top of this, its already been stated that criminals don't give a chit about your laws, and on top of that restricting constitutional rights for stupid reasons such as these is illogical.

TLDR: This is a culture and mental health issue
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Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

-Requiring a min IQ is 100% a fascist ideal. A study was done on that and voting requirements in the 80s and that was the finding.
-Why is 25 years old the magic age where you can be trusted to own a firearm? Why cant an 18 year old be trusted at home with an AR15 but he can certainly be trusted to carry an M4 with an M203mm grenade launder, a M240B machine gun, M249 SAW, or an M2 .50 for the military? Why does he not deserve to get to defend himself at home with a firearm?
-I'm am both for and against licenses.
For: so we know who can and can't have one and also who must give them up once they become a felon or a danger to themselves or others.
Against: It's none of the government's god damned business if i own a firearm or not

Besides, i knowof dumb mother fukkers who drive cars that MOST CERTAINLY shouldnt be allowed to

Edit: Not just anyone should be allowed to possess a firearm however. As it stands now, there are a bunch of different background check databases and they all need to be combined and FFL dealers should be given access so that d-bags like that kid from Texas can never get his hands on one. But to try and say that there needs to be some mental screening put in place of EVERYONE who wants to pwn a gun is stupid since instances like texting and driving kill WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more people than several years of gun violence combined, yet the most serious we get about that are pledges and state laws. Did that slow the deaths though? Absolutely now. If you follow the MSM, they would have you believe that gun violence is worse than it has ever been before and it is absolutely not. Its lower now than it has been in 20 years.
CPRC in Fox News: Police are extremely Law-abiding, but concealed handgun permit holders are even more so

Uncomfortable statistics that don’t fit the media narrative about mass shootings in United States

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

And if you ever heard a vet call for gun reform
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post 1549455011 04-18-2018, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
Not sold on the IQ thing. Simply because I doubt that having a higher IQ necessarily makes someone more likely to responsibly use their guns. Sure you'd be less likely to be a criminal but there are enough dumb but responsible Southern ****s and smart but sociopathic ****s to make such a restriction pointless.

The obvious one for me is mental health issues.Anyform of mental health issue, eg. Depression, Bipolar, PTSD, literally anything should be an immediate and permanent disqualification from owing firearms. That's just common sense but I guarantee you there are people out there disagreeing with it.
dont need to look further than this thread to find the people that believe that guns should just be freely available to any mentalcels
post 1549455051 04-18-2018, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
Not sold on the IQ thing. Simply because I doubt that having a higher IQ necessarily makes someone more likely to responsibly use their guns. Sure you'd be less likely to be a criminal but there are enough dumb but responsible Southern ****s and smart but sociopathic ****s to make such a restriction pointless.

The obvious one for me is mental health issues.Anyform of mental health issue, eg. Depression, Bipolar, PTSD, literally anything should be an immediate and permanent disqualification from owing firearms. That's just common sense but I guarantee you there are people out there disagreeing with it.
i know vets with PTSD from combat, their only sense of security is their gun

it's not that simple
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
LOL, no.

Not interested on restrictions on Constitutionally-guaranteed rights...
"once a law is written it is not possible or logical to ever change it"

lol
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I'd be on board but of course people would bitch and complain.

Same should be done for voting (IQ restrictions).
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
Americanos, let me know what you think about gun control laws like this :


Minimum of 120 IQ to own gun
Must be at least 25 y/o
Must have a valid gun user licence, kind of like driving licence
**** off lib
post 1549455821 04-18-2018, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
"once a law is written it is not possible or logical to ever change it"

lol
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post 1549455921 04-18-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
I'd be on board but of course people would bitch and complain.

Same should be done for voting (IQ restrictions).
Negative. 100% fascist. It use to be where only land owners paid taxes. I say we make it:
* Only land owners and/or Net Tax payers can vote
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Originally Posted By HairyCrotchGuy⏩
dont need to look further than this thread to find the people that believe that guns should just be freely available to any mentalcels
1. How do we define mentally ill, where do we draw the line to determine if someone is volatile or not, what stops those in power from declaring someone mentally ill out of convenience to strip their rights and get rid of them?

2.https://www.dailywire.com/news/27229...-prestigiacomo
The ACLU warned that the bill stripped Americans who were not shown to be a danger to themselves or others of Constitutional rights, including young people struggling with depression, those with eating disorders, and other mental disorders.

"The thousands of Americans whose disability benefits are managed by someone else range from young people with depression and financial inexperience to older adults with Down syndrome needing help with a limited budget," wrote the ACLU. "But no data — none — show that these individuals have a propensity for violence in general or gun violence in particular."
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post 1549457121 04-18-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
"once a law is written it is not possible or logical to ever change it"

lol
The Constitution assumes that the right to keep and bear arms predates the government, and the Second Amendment restricts the government's ability to infringe upon it.

There's no reason to change the law regarding ownership. You simply need to enforce the laws that are already on the books to reduce crime. If anything, you'd just want to punish gun crimes with harsher penalties.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
The Constitution assumes that the right to keep and bear arms predates the government, and the Second Amendment restricts the government's ability to infringe upon it.

There's no reason to change the law regarding ownership. You simply need to enforce the laws that are already on the books to reduce crime. If anything, you'd just want to punish gun crimes with harsher penalties.
Even more so, we as Americans, are born WITH certain inalienable rights just by virtue of being born American. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights just GUARANTEE those rights. The government was never meant to restrict rights or to give itself power. The government only has its power because we the people grant it the power. Perhaps in other countries the government exists (in part) to create and limit rights, but not in the USA.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
The Constitution assumes that the right to keep and bear arms predates the government, and the Second Amendment restricts the government's ability to infringe upon it.

There's no reason to change the law regarding ownership. You simply need to enforce the laws that are already on the books to reduce crime. If anything, you'd just want to punish gun crimes with harsher penalties.
Based on the posts of foreigners on here, this is exactly what they continually masturbate over.

And what I mean is, they want all gun owners to be automatic criminals.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Based on the posts of foreigners on here, this is exactly what they continually masturbate over.
You cant force the masses into a socialist utopia when they still have the freedom to defend themselves with firearms.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
The Constitution assumes that the right to keep and bear arms predates the government, and the Second Amendment restricts the government's ability to infringe upon it.

There's no reason to change the law regarding ownership. You simply need to enforce the laws that are already on the books to reduce crime. If anything, you'd just want to punish gun crimes with harsher penalties.
yeah, i get that it isn't as simple as guns = murders

people always say the US is different to other countries, so the stats that are used to support gun control don't matter. maybe it's because the US is different that there should be tighter gun laws... the US has, by far, the highest number of guns owned, but not nearly the highest per capita gun murder rate. however, it does have, by far, the most mass-shootings. switzerland has chitloads of guns but hardly any gun murders, and no mass shootings. obviously it's cultural.


i wish someone would do some legit studies - you always see these statistics showing that higher gun ownership = higher gun crimes.fukn duh. surprise surprise, no guns, gun crime goes down.

maybe it exists, but i haven't seen it - a study that somehow shows the relationship between gun ownership/control and overall homicides, taking into account similar information on bordering countries, eg gun control obviously works a lot better in australia (no bordering countries) than it would in the US
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
You cant force the masses into a socialist utopia when they still have the freedom to defend themselves with firearms.
i should have finished my thought lol - made it more clear. They seem to want a law that makes every gun owner an instant criminal who will face prison time.
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
yeah, i get that it isn't as simple as guns = murders

people always say the US is different to other countries, so the stats that are used to support gun control don't matter. maybe it's because the US is different that there should be tighter gun laws... the US has, by far, the highest number of guns owned, but not nearly the highest per capita gun murder rate. however, it does have, by far, the most mass-shootings. switzerland has chitloads of guns but hardly any gun murders, and no mass shootings. obviously it's cultural.


i wish someone would do some legit studies - you always see these statistics showing that higher gun ownership = higher gun crimes.fukn duh. surprise surprise, no guns, gun crime goes down.

maybe it exists, but i haven't seen it - a study that somehow shows the relationship between gun ownership/control and overall homicides, taking into account similar information on bordering countries, eg gun control obviously works a lot better in australia (no bordering countries) than it would in the US
I live in one of the highest-armed areas and we have almost no gun crime. According to that logic we should have many more murders.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
I live in one of the highest-armed areas and we have almost no gun crime. According to that logic we should have many more murders.
did you even read my post you stupid fukn kunt
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