Thread: Lifting less = more gains
05-10-2018, 06:17 PM
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Better check those test levels OP
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05-10-2018, 06:21 PM
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For nattys yeah. I take at least 24 hours to recover so I can easily have 1-2 off days.
05-10-2018, 07:34 PM
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yea maybe if you are in your 50s
lol at men in their 20s who sleep and eat enough being worried about overtraining
lol at men in their 20s who sleep and eat enough being worried about overtraining
05-10-2018, 07:48 PM
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been lifting 10 years and find that as a natty training more consistently and frequently has benefited me the most
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I think optimal for a natty lifter would be
Monday - lift
Tues - Run
Wed - Lift
Thur - Run
Fri- Lift.
Sat / Sun off or optional lift/run
That being said i go way more because the gym is fun and makes me feel good physically and mentally. I do notice though, when i take some time off (i just got back from vacation for instance and didnt lift for 10 days), i look better than i did before leaving. Makes me think im not giving body enough time to recover / grow
Monday - lift
Tues - Run
Wed - Lift
Thur - Run
Fri- Lift.
Sat / Sun off or optional lift/run
That being said i go way more because the gym is fun and makes me feel good physically and mentally. I do notice though, when i take some time off (i just got back from vacation for instance and didnt lift for 10 days), i look better than i did before leaving. Makes me think im not giving body enough time to recover / grow
05-10-2018, 07:50 PM
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the body is adaptive and you can find results that differ from what you expected.
for example a lot of people have been getting pretty good strenght + size results from squatting 3+ times a week heavy. this goes against the contrary belief of overtraining.
i still believe in overtraining is bad for you, but i think you just have to find what works for you and that your body grows from being challenged. everybody part twice a week with high volume, low-moderate intensity is good for intermediate lifters looking for hypertrophy IMO. like go to the gym 5 days a week (do legs only once hehetymen)
for example a lot of people have been getting pretty good strenght + size results from squatting 3+ times a week heavy. this goes against the contrary belief of overtraining.
i still believe in overtraining is bad for you, but i think you just have to find what works for you and that your body grows from being challenged. everybody part twice a week with high volume, low-moderate intensity is good for intermediate lifters looking for hypertrophy IMO. like go to the gym 5 days a week (do legs only once hehetymen)
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05-10-2018, 07:50 PM
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do the opposite of op he's like the george costanza of misc
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Originally Posted By randombrah102⏩
Or it could be your daily workouts are weak and monotonous so your body doesnt take much to recover. Meanwhile the people who train with intensity and allow their body to recover and rebuild you think are doing it wrong.yea maybe if you are in your 50s
lol at men in their 20s who sleep and eat enough being worried about overtraining
lol at men in their 20s who sleep and eat enough being worried about overtraining
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I know people, natty’s, that compete in bodybuilding and powerlifting that are in the gym 6-7 days a week working hard to get to their goal. Don’t tell me it’s counterproductive.
It works for you because you have nothing to train for.
It works for you because you have nothing to train for.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Still blows my mind that 225 is considered strength training.I don't lift for strength anymore. 250 was my max but i'm cutting and will remain under 15% bf. No point in being above that, and the lifts will come back eventually
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05-10-2018, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Lifting 3 days a week is plenty. I think anything more as a natty is counterproductive. More rest. More energy. More gains. Feels good man
Originally Posted By LastRealViking⏩
Year: 2018Depends on your goals. Depends on volume x frequency x intensity. It depends on your body type.
If you are an ectomorph, you should train more frequent. Body type plays role. If you are a natty and you powerlift, I think 3-4 days is ideal. Rest on the other days. I had great success with both of those, while my success wasn't as good with 5-6 days in terms of strength. If you are looking to be fit and look good, more days would be more beneficial. Undulating periodization would be a great tool.
It's not black and white like that. That type of thinking is more of a negative than a positive.
If you are an ectomorph, you should train more frequent. Body type plays role. If you are a natty and you powerlift, I think 3-4 days is ideal. Rest on the other days. I had great success with both of those, while my success wasn't as good with 5-6 days in terms of strength. If you are looking to be fit and look good, more days would be more beneficial. Undulating periodization would be a great tool.
It's not black and white like that. That type of thinking is more of a negative than a positive.
Still says ectomorph, endo, meso....
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05-10-2018, 08:12 PM
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I have some 3 day weeks but mainly I just do whatever I feel like in the gym. Whether that means training 10 mins or 60 mins. Or going 6 days or 3.
Doesn't really matter what you do, as long as you're consistent and eat well.
Doesn't really matter what you do, as long as you're consistent and eat well.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
It's notStill blows my mind that 225 is considered strength training.
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High frequency
low volume
then add volume from there
all rep ranges should be worked
add weight and reps before adding sets
i prefer a variance of iso movements...for that extra 5% muscle gain.
low volume
then add volume from there
all rep ranges should be worked
add weight and reps before adding sets
i prefer a variance of iso movements...for that extra 5% muscle gain.
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If three is good maybe one is even better.
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Most definitely bro.
Stay off the supps and get lean too.
There's no need to pump heavy weight and over burden your joints and muscles too often.
3 times a week calisthenics and still jacked crew
Stay off the supps and get lean too.
There's no need to pump heavy weight and over burden your joints and muscles too often.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
225 is a warmup for anyone who actually lifts. OP doesn't "train" for anything much less strength.He looks exactly like he trains : dyel.Still blows my mind that 225 is considered strength training.
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Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
My job as a dentist from 8-5 and then since it's Spring, and soon to be Summer, hit the golf course, ride my road bike, go to a Lake Huron beach, or trout stream after work. Used to lift 6 days a week during undergrad, 5-6 during Dental School and now 4 that I'm out in the working world. Toss in a fifth day of cardio for 60-90 minutes and that's plenty of gym time for me.What else are you gonna do for the rest of the 4 days?
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I ppl 3x a week.
Getting old and being busy makes chit tough. I use to be a 6x a week guy.
Getting old and being busy makes chit tough. I use to be a 6x a week guy.
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[QUOTE=
Year: 2018
Still says ectomorph, endo, meso....[/QUOTE]
Uhhh...what?
Year: 2018
Still says ectomorph, endo, meso....[/QUOTE]
Uhhh...what?
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
FTFY you OP.Lifting 3 days a week is plenty.IMO
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