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Thread: agree that child support should be paid by absent fathers not failed relationships?

post 1560104311 08-30-2018, 05:29 PM
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no child support 50/50 custody... when a man cant pay child support he goes to jail... when a women cant afford child support she gets public housing... and thats cause women always get the kids 90% of time... so end all child support and favoritism and make it 50/50 custody no support required... grown up can take care of themselves and their kids...not only that women are hypergamous... cs creates gold diggers and players which ruins society... women will marry up just for cs which creates single mother gold digger... which ruins society and the kids life...
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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
Should the father help take care of the kid? Absolutely

Should the money be given to the mother so she can spend it however she wants? Absolutely not

Here's an example of the bullchit that goes on nowadays



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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
If you and your ex split custody 50/50 who pays support?
If we split equal physical custody she would actually have to pay me child support. She makes twice as much as me.

The children are supposed to have the same lifestyle as when you were married if not better.

It takes more than food and clothes.

In fairness my ex pays 600 a month for insurance for them.

My teen needs an MRI because his knee got hurt at football. The out of pocket on that is 800.

Braces, glasses, tutors. Sports martial arts.

There's more than good, rent, utilities per child.

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Originally Posted By ChristianMR⏩
She can't forfeit child support -- that belongs to the child.
yes and child support usually does get spent on the child 100%, doesn't it?
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
yes and child support usually does get spent on the child 100%, doesn't it?
Most of the time child support doesn't even scratch the total expense for each child.
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Originally Posted By whogotmuhbeers⏩
My main problem with the current laws is the spouse is able to spend the money I give here for my kids on things such as liquor cigarettes or anything else not going directly towards the children. Not divorced btw just seen a lot of girlfriends doing this to their baby daddys
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
Child support should never be required only optional.
If it were optional, it would never be paid. There are people that take child support (I say people because both men and women pay depending) and spend it on themselves but many do not do this and typically one parent gets the majority of the custody so expenses are higher.

I realize most of you hate women but you’re off base here.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
If it were optional, it would never be paid. There are people that take child support (I say people because both men and women pay depending) and spend it on themselves but many do not do this and typically one parent gets the majority of the custody so expenses are higher.

I realize most of you hate women but you’re off base here.
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it should always be paid - what is dumb is charging people for huge chunks of their pay pre-tax - I've seen people pay as high as 40% before taxes
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I feel that the woman should have to show what they spend it on diapers, clothes, formula etc. have them keep the receipts and what not so they aren’t spending it on themselves .
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Most of the time child support doesn't even scratch the total expense for each child.
Mostof the time? Perhaps if the separated parents are low income. Not to mention even if child support gets paid it should be a given that the one paying will still contribute more to the raising of the child, financially.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
Child support makes no sense at all.

Brb takes a village to raise a child. So leave me out of it.

Brb i cant choose to abort the kid so i should be able to choose not to support it.

Brb pay money to mom and she spends it on clothes for herself.

Brb its uncapped at a percentage of your income when it costs 100$ a month MAX to feed a kid beans and keep it alive.

Brb goes to 18 but kid can work legally much sooner.




Ill work under the table or move out of the country before i pay child support.
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Originally Posted By whogotmuhbeers⏩
My main problem with the current laws is the spouse is able to spend the money I give here for my kids on things such as liquor cigarettes or anything else not going directly towards the children. Not divorced btw just seen a lot of girlfriends doing this to their baby daddys
they need to show proof of where they spend it /IRS- like on hair and nails
or their new broke BF's
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
I 100% am against spousal support unless it is an agreement before hand between the couple. But child support is necessary, and IMHO should only bereimbursedmonthly, not paid ahead of time. Or if paid ahead, semi-annual corrections should be made.

For example, if the man is dubbed 60% responsible for the child, he should pay 60% of allverifiedexpenses on the child. Nothing more.
Originally Posted By kingHanley⏩
I feel that the woman should have to show what they spend it on diapers, clothes, formula etc. have them keep the receipts and what not so they aren’t spending it on themselves .
Not practical, and not how it works.

Cases where someone is spending CS on themselves may happen, but I can only see that if the amount of income is very high, or the specific parent is just a heel.

Children don't stay babies on diapers and formula.

You want receipts for everything? Like someone is supposed to calculate how much of the laundry soap, toilet paper, gas/mileage for transportation specifically is used by/for the child? That would be nearly a full time job.

Like leo pointed out already food and housing are just the start.

You aren't made responsible for "60% of X amount with X = to the specific qualified provable expenses for the child".

It is more like they take both parent's income combined to get the total annual pay and then say X% of that total goes to supporting the child. Then whatever that number is (percentage of combined total income) is then divided up 60/40 or 50/50 or whatever.

So e.g. 1 parent has $100K gross income and the other has $50K gross income the total shared income would be $150K. Maybe the court says 20% for support of children...$30K a year. They do 50/50 custody.

That doesn't mean that they each are expected to put in $15K a year. The spouse making $100K may be expected to contribute $20K, while the spouse making $50K would be expected to contribute $10K.

But then if the children really are splitting their time equally the child support award could be $10K a year to the lower earning spouse with the presumption that each parent would contribute $10K directly when the child is staying with them.

Super super simplified, and may vary by state...
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post 1560113961 08-30-2018, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Please, for the sake of society, get a vasectomy. kthxbai.
I got like 2-3 kids already and guys like you raise them. Thats how it should be.

Just like the animal kingdom baby.

Lil b had it right basedgod. Child support me bitch nah.

Ill never be on the receiving end of child support, the women know to not even try. Child support doesn’t make sense and i tell them that from day 1.

If anything i should get payments for providing the gifted kid.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
I got like 2-3 kids already and guys like you raise them. Thats how it should be.

Just like the animal kingdom baby.

Lil b had it right basedgod. Child support me bitch nah.

Ill never be on the receiving end of child support, the women know to not even try. Child support doesn’t make sense and i tell them that from day 1.

If anything i should get payments for providing the gifted kid.
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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
No, but I definitely think there needs to be a method for full accountability and justification for any expense over food, clothing and increased home expenses that should be a standard rate per kid.
This. Child support spending should be monitored just like company expenses would.
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Originally Posted By bov188⏩
Is paying child support tax deductible? Does the parent who receives child support have to pay taxes?

This is how it works with alimony. If you pay alimony you can deduct those payments on your tax return. Conversely, the parent receiving alimony must report it as taxable income
Child support isn't taxible income and isn't deductible
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
So you're a tradie who works under the table?
If I had to I would

But like I said I already got 2-3 the women know not to even try. They know who I am


And I say 2-3 because the 3rd one the bitch swears is mine but it's ugly as fuk so I don't believe it. The other 2 are beautiful and look just like me.
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Most of the time child support doesn't even scratch the total expense for each child.
Sorry bro, but this isn't true at all.
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR⏩
This. I don't give a chit why you're not around. Your kids = you pay to raise them.
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I personally think that the government should not pay for people's kids. I've seen too many cases of an unemployed female, living in section 8 housing, on food stamps. With 4-8 children and nobody paying child support. Supposedly the government will pay for up to 5 children. Not sure when the checks/benefits stop. And these aren't 'single' females per say. They are always dating on and off random dudes that are usually unemployed.


With that said the options are either father pay child support, mother able to support kid. Or, IMO, if the government has to pay for that kid he shouldn't live with his mother. People who cannot afford kids shouldn't be allowed to breed and get paid for it.


Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
If you and your ex split custody 50/50 who pays support?
In this case nobody. Each pays for the child when they have them.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
If I had to I would

But like I said I already got 2-3 the women know not to even try. They know who I am


And I say 2-3 because the 3rd one the bitch swears is mine but it's ugly as fuk so I don't believe it. The other 2 are beautiful and look just like me.
The government doesn't give a **** lol. They're the ones who wage garnish, not the girls. Did you threaten to murder them then?
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Op is a *******.. that being said my one qualm is that states are all for chasing a father for child support but when a father wants custody it's about impossible unless the mother is an axe murderer.. my point being if everything is "equal" why does the father not have an equal opportunity of custody..
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Alimony should not be paid if the person recieving leaves or cheats.


You should be allowed to keep your full pension. Always
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Originally Posted By Josh1billion⏩
Saw it first-hand. My dad paid child support on-time all the time, yet my mom could rarely afford groceries or utilities. Fun times.

Virtually every child support recipient just takes the money and lumps it into their own regular budget; there's absolutely no assurance that the money goes toward the child in anything but an indirect way.
I’m shocked that courts would allow this level of irresponsibility. Every few months the party who gets the child support should have to provide PROOF that the money received is being spent on the child/children.
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Men should be able to opt out before the child is born, just like how a woman can abort. But if you decide you want it, you have to pay if you and the mother split. I also don't think people who are proven to not be the father should have to pay.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Not practical, and not how it works.

Cases where someone is spending CS on themselves may happen, but I can only see that if the amount of income is very high, or the specific parent is just a heel.

Children don't stay babies on diapers and formula.

You want receipts for everything? Like someone is supposed to calculate how much of the laundry soap, toilet paper, gas/mileage for transportation specifically is used by/for the child? That would be nearly a full time job.

Like leo pointed out already food and housing are just the start.

You aren't made responsible for "60% of X amount with X = to the specific qualified provable expenses for the child".

It is more like they take both parent's income combined to get the total annual pay and then say X% of that total goes to supporting the child. Then whatever that number is (percentage of combined total income) is then divided up 60/40 or 50/50 or whatever.

So e.g. 1 parent has $100K gross income and the other has $50K gross income the total shared income would be $150K. Maybe the court says 20% for support of children...$30K a year. They do 50/50 custody.

That doesn't mean that they each are expected to put in $15K a year. The spouse making $100K may be expected to contribute $20K, while the spouse making $50K would be expected to contribute $10K.

But then if the children really are splitting their time equally the child support award could be $10K a year to the lower earning spouse with the presumption that each parent would contribute $10K directly when the child is staying with them.

Super super simplified, and may vary by state...
it should be a full time job since they are getting free money
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
The government doesn't give a **** lol. They're the ones who wage garnish, not the girls. Did you threaten to murder them then?
Nah they just know I wont pay.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
Nah they just know I wont pay.
You’re trolling. You can go to jail for non payment of child support.

Even if you don’t think the father should have to pay, it’s him or you: out of your taxes.

I know which one I would pick since I didn’t bang some girl I didn’t want a child with without a condom.

Lol at opt out. It’s not fair because biology isn’t fair. Once you have a living, breathing child you’re obligated to take care of it whether you wanted it or not.

Why? Because it’s not everyone else’s fault to pick up the slack and the kid needs to eat.

End of. It’s nobody’s else job and damn sure not the taxpayer’s.
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