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post 1560906901 09-10-2018, 08:32 AM
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Agreed but they’re hard to stick with long term. I first heard about and tinkered with Paleo/Keto-style diets like a decade ago and over the years have ranged from super fukn strict to really fukn relaxed
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
The idea of basing your diet around what people ate hundreds and thousands of years ago is next level retarded
The older I get the worse my body reacts to processed foods.
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Currently 5-6 days into Carnivore diet and I expected to feel like complete chit, I went in knowing I was gonna feel like chit, I fuking feel amazing, not just good but amazing. Energy levels are so good and stable, don't have irritability anymore from being hungry between meals or from crash from giant meal. I fully expected no energy in the gym, brb endless energy in gym. Recovery has felt quicker. lawd. Only major negative I see so far is very hard to socially maintain.
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
The older I get the worse my body reacts to processed foods.
Same.

Why do you think that is?

I have a few ideas that I'll share but I don't want them to taint yours
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
The idea of basing your diet around what people ate hundreds and thousands of years ago is next level retarded
The idea is that's what we are genetically and physioligically primed to consume, so eating similarly is optimal. Now whether or not you agree with it or whether the data supports that claim can be debated, but to say the premise of ancestral dieting is "next level retarded" is absolutely dramatic and not sure why that idea isn't worth investigating.

"Miscers tend to look at things in black and white which is pretty dumb as well". You don't see the irony in this?

I'm not telling you paleo is the right answer btw, I don't follow it anymore and probably won't l, but there is logic behind the diet.
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Originally Posted By DCutch⏩
The idea is that's what we are genetically and physioligically primed to consume, so eating similarly is optimal. Now whether or not you agree with it or whether the data supports that claim can be debated, but to say the premise of ancestral dieting is "next level retarded" is absolutely dramatic and not sure why that idea isn't worth investigating.
Because the idea of eating whole and natural foods has nothing to do with ancestral dieting

How would you even go about setting up an ancestral diet? First, you'd need a genetic test to determine your primal ancestors. Undoubtedly, you're mixed in some degree. Do you then apply the percentages to the foods you eat? How does that work

What if someone is mostly Inuit in ancestry? Are you expecting them to eat a primal diet and just accept the life expectancy of ~30 years old because their ancestors weren't exposed to a balanced diet?
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Not sure if serious. I have fruit coming out my ******* right now, nectarines, peaches, plums, strawberries, cherry tree is dried up unfortunately, blackberries, raspberries. Was foraging Wild huckleberries a month ago etc... my apples are ripening. I could literally live off fruit. Meanwhile I’ve managed to forage some pine pollen and some morels and one bunch of wild asparagus all summer.

And you are a straight up retard moron x 10 if your gonna feed me the “natural sugars are better”. It’s straight chemistry how it gets processed boyo and natural chit like agave might as well be HFCS so using natural as your baseline rule for acceptable sugar is borderline autism. Except autists are at least right most of the time

As far as things like paleo “eat it raw”. Sorry it’s already been proven things like caretenoids in carrots are more bioavailable after being blanched or certain veggies are better cooked for your body to absorb and process the nutrients. Take a scientific approach not whatever horse **** method you use as a criteria.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Because the idea of eating whole and natural foods has nothing to do with ancestral dieting

How would you even go about setting up an ancestral diet? First, you'd need a genetic test to determine your primal ancestors. Undoubtedly, you're mixed in some degree. Do you then apply the percentages to the foods you eat? How does that work

What if someone is mostly Inuit in ancestry? Are you expecting them to eat a primal diet and just accept the life expectancy of ~30 years old because their ancestors weren't exposed to a balanced diet?
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You’d have to eat about 100lbs of vegetables to get the same effect as a teaspoon of processed sugar.
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2 months in, down 32lbs. I took a cheat day on Saturday and had some junk food.. felt like utter garbage. Will probably lay off again for another 2 months before indulging.
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Originally Posted By Vidarson⏩
You’d have to eat about 100lbs of vegetables to get the same effect as a teaspoon of processed sugar.
But who was varied levels of sugars in different vegetables.


You think that’s the same for beets or carrots vs peas? Even then 100lbs ? Are you retarded ?
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
The idea of basing your diet around what people ate hundreds and thousands of years ago is next level retarded
This.

People's ideas about what cavemen ate is also retarded. They ate whatever the fukk they could get their hands on -- meat, greens, fruit, bark, each other's asses, insects, grasses, field mice, squirrel face, etc.
Originally Posted By DCutch⏩
The idea is that's what we are genetically and physioligically primed to consume, so eating similarly is optimal. Now whether or not you agree with it or whether the data supports that claim can be debated, but to say the premise of ancestral dieting is "next level retarded" is absolutely dramatic and not sure why that idea isn't worth investigating.

"Miscers tend to look at things in black and white which is pretty dumb as well". You don't see the irony in this?

I'm not telling you paleo is the right answer btw, I don't follow it anymore and probably won't l, but there is logic behind the diet.
Three problems. First, people have ridiculous fantasies about the diet of paleolithic people (OP, for instance, apparently doesn't believe that paleolithic man at berries). Second, you can't emulate it anyway given the scarcity of the type of food they ate. Where are you going to find an auroch? There aren't enough random wild animals around for 99.999% of the population to subsist on them. Third, why do people think that we stopped evolving 100k years ago? We have acquired specific evolutionary adaptations to consume certain foods that became prevalent way after agriculture became the norm (e.g., retention of lactase).
Take it easy Christian
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Same.

Why do you think that is?

I have a few ideas that I'll share but I don't want them to taint yours
I honestly don't know.

I wonder if it's my body adjusting to the types of food I eat. The past 4 or 5 years I have been trying to be healthier and have been eating a lot of whole foods. So now when I deviate from that my body isn't ready for it. ie, maybe I inadvertently did it to myself

or maybe it's just part of aging
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
But who was varied levels of sugars in different vegetables.


You think that’s the same for beets or carrots vs peas? Even then 100lbs ? Are you retarded ?
Classic straw man argument you got genre buddy.

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I mean, TETO, but you can pry my carbs out of my cold dead hands. Keto is great for someone with insulin resistance. Otherwise, meh. If it leads someone to be consistent with their diet, go for it.
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR⏩
This.

People's ideas about what cavemen ate is also retarded. They ate whatever the fukk they could get their hands on -- meat, greens, fruit, bark, each other's asses, insects, grasses, field mice, squirrel face, etc.



Three problems. First, people have ridiculous fantasies about the diet of paleolithic people (OP, for instance, apparently doesn't believe that paleolithic man at berries). Second, you can't emulate it anyway given the scarcity of the type of food they ate. Where are you going to find an auroch? There aren't enough random wild animals around for 99.999% of the population to subsist on them. Third, why do people think that we stopped evolving 100k years ago? We have acquired specific evolutionary adaptations to consume certain foods that became prevalent way after agriculture became the norm (e.g., retention of lactase).
From what I've gathered, ancestral dieting is less of "eat what your ancestors ate" and more about not eating junk that wouldn't have been available during those times. And I fully believe we've made adaptations between now and then, but the magnitude of those physiological adaptations is up for debate.

Once again I'm not advocating Paleo or saying it's the right or wrong way to eat, rather I'm taking issue with the poster saying it's "next level retarded" which I just don't agree with.
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Originally Posted By DCutch⏩
From what I've gathered, ancestral dieting is less of "eat what your ancestors ate" and more about not eating junk that wouldn't have been available during those times. And I fully believe we've made adaptations between now and then, but the magnitude of those physiological adaptations is up for debate.

Once again I'm not advocating Paleo or saying it's the right or wrong way to eat, rather I'm taking issue with the poster saying it's "next level retarded" which I just don't agree with.
I personally think it's fine and probably a good idea to avoid heavily processed foods that would be way outside of the biological norm (e.g., processed sugar and most vegetable oils). The problem is that people take these notions to an extreme level and start telling people to eliminate foods that might not actually be a problem for that person. For instance, humans have been eating grain since the dawn of civilization, and modern paleolithic people (e.g., Amazonian tribes) prove that many pre-modern humans eat a large amount of starch. It's silly to eliminate potatoes and grains, for instance, unless you determine that you personally actually have a problem with these foods.
Take it easy Christian
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Originally Posted By al****orilla⏩
Classic straw man argument you got genre buddy.

Brb “some poisons are organic, so organic anything can kill you”

Just lmaooo
What the fuk are you talking about it’s not even close.

Your example is a flat out wrong statement.

I’m pointing out you can get a tablespoon of sugar out of like 3 beets, probably 10lbs of peas. So veggies are different, and the quoted person was off by like 100 times exaggeration in this case.

Meanwhile you compare what I said to some dumb bullchit??? Not even close take some negs you stupid *******
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Originally Posted By otakutrevan⏩
If I gave you 1 million dollars and dropped you in in Canada or Siberia could you bring me back a bag of sugar in 72 hours you nitwit? no. you couldn't. Unless you magically find a fruit field or sugar cane growing naturally and in abundance you CANT. Stay mad and get type 2 diabetes boyo.
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Originally Posted By otakutrevan⏩
You literally cannot find enriched flour or sugar in nature. Point blank period. People will eat fast food, white flour, or sugar, and somehow tell people that eat meat and veggies that "its bad for you health"


FCKING LOL.

Anytime in my life where I've been lean is when I only ate beef, turkey, and green vegetables. You know. Food you can actually go outdoors and find. Keep listening to the mainstream media and suffering from inflammation, heart disease, and obesity.

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Who said veggies were bad?
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The basis of your diet should be vegetables, meat and fish, not grains, fruit and dairy. Just lol at anyone who says otherwise.
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
i've been outdoors many times and never seen a wild asparagus or brussel sprout

where the fck do you live op
You've never seen wild asparagus ? Check any ditch in the mid-west in April and May.
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR⏩
I personally think it's fine and probably a good idea to avoid heavily processed foods that would be way outside of the biological norm (e.g., processed sugar and most vegetable oils). The problem is that people take these notions to an extreme level and start telling people to eliminate foods that might not actually be a problem for that person. For instance, humans have been eating grain since the dawn of civilization, and modern paleolithic people (e.g., Amazonian tribes) prove that many pre-modern humans eat a large amount of starch. It's silly to eliminate potatoes and grains, for instance, unless you determine that you personally actually have a problem with these foods.
And that's how I think it should be done, through trial and error find out what works for you and what doesn't. Even Robb Wolf, who is a high profile Paleo guru, has more or less adopted this attitude. If optimal health is your motivation then Paleo can be used as a roadmap to guide you in what to eat/what not to eat. And from there start tinkering with things, if white potatoes and white rice have no negative effects on you then why the heck not include them?

Definitely not a diet I would recommend to a noobie as it's overly complicated and adherence is rough. But by all means, if an overweight sedentary person wants to do Whole30 and that's going to kick off a new healthy lifestyle for them then power to them. Id push them to count macros personally as it's simple and easy to adhere to, especially if athletic performance is important to them.

Originally Posted By arn710⏩
What if someone is mostly Inuit in ancestry? Are you expecting them to eat a primal diet and just accept the life expectancy of ~30 years old because their ancestors weren't exposed to a balanced diet?
This is just ridiculous. So you think their life expectancy was a result of their diet and not the rigors of life and absence of modern medicine?
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Originally Posted By RightKindaGuy⏩
what do you mean, the people back then had a life expectancy of 35 years old, seems like an ideal diet to me!!!

(cringe)


Modern medicine.





Modern medicine.





..even once?





Modern medicine.


BRB: Native peoples, Aboriginals, Eskimo, etc. also weren't obese on their native diet.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
This. Can i eat pine needles? Does that count?
You can actually make tea with certain kinds of pine needles.
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Originally Posted By peterplsss⏩
Currently 5-6 days into Carnivore diet and I expected to feel like complete chit, I went in knowing I was gonna feel like chit, I fuking feel amazing, not just good but amazing. Energy levels are so good and stable, don't have irritability anymore from being hungry between meals or from crash from giant meal. I fully expected no energy in the gym, brb endless energy in gym. Recovery has felt quicker. lawd. Only major negative I see so far is very hard to socially maintain.
BRB: are you living for others or yourself?



I get the same feels when I eat high fat, high protein minimal carbs.


Amazing the feels are!
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Yaw man, there's nothing like foraging for twinkies while shooting deer...


Processed food causes baldness too.
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Originally Posted By baize82⏩
blubber again for lunch...my favorite
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