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Originally Posted By mstatefan91⏩
What you just stated is NOT how a scientific study is conducted. While that may be interesting and might give some clues or insight, it doesn't do anything to support or negate a hypothesis..
Yeah, but it would be pretty ****ing telling, wouldn't it?
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
Of course there are always going to be exceptions. The same thing happened to a friend's sister, and therefore they recommended the friend not receive vaccines in case of a genetic component. For the vast majority, however, vaccination is perfectly safe with no lasting impact.
Of course

Oh of course... sure you can get ****ed up...

Of COURSE IT CAN happen...

But still.... risk it so I can feel like a virtue signaling autist.

Oh I get it, all the autist redditors and SJW are already autistic, they want sally and her son to get autism too... for EQUALITY!

Vaccinate your kids so we are all equally autistic communists!!!
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
Of course

Oh of course... sure you can get ****ed up...

Of COURSE IT CAN happen...

But still.... risk it so I can feel like a virtue signaling autist.

Oh I get it, all the autist redditors and SJW are already autistic, they want sally and her son to get autism too... for EQUALITY!

Vaccinate your kids so we are all equally autistic communists!!!
Right, because assuming there was a connection, a child with autism is worse than a dead kid. I can't even take you seriously.
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
Not sure if serious. This will never happen with any medical treatment. Not possible.
then SHUT

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TBH, with the current info on vaxxing, the best thing you can do is research each vaccination, determine the risk of side effects vs the risk of getting the disease and then make an informed decision. Take each vaccination on a case by case basis.

Just don't let the popular media chit on your choice by making you look like a flat earther because you're not an indoctrinated buffoon.
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Originally Posted By Benji
Yeah, but it would be pretty ****ing telling, wouldn't it?
A quick google tells me that this has been done and that it supports vaccination.

You could have done that for yourself *******
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Originally Posted By RedRusty⏩
Right, because assuming there was a connection, a child with autism is worse than a dead kid. I can't even take you seriously.
There iS NO FUKING PROVERBIAL DEAD KID YOU DUMB LOW IQ BROKEN RECORD
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
There iS NO FUKING PROVERBIAL DEAD KID YOU DUMB LOW IQ BROKEN RECORD
I am learning more and more why you are considered one of the worst miscers here. Thanks for shedding light on it.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
The only raw reality of science is that on statistical average a majority of people can take vaccines safely.

That DOES NOT mean every single child will have no potential for being affected or even changed emotionally.

But the bigots and retards want to act like it’s a closed case.

It’s not a closed case and the amount of side effect reported on social media are alarming.

Anyone who hates on anti vaxxers and people who harbor a healthy fear of capitalist/mass interests vs individual interest is a bigot and pseudo intelligent pig.

They need to stop acting all hard until they can prove vaccines have ZERO risk in all children otherwise stfu.

What makes it sick is they act like they have the notion of mass illness prevention on their side. They don’t. Polio and ancient disease doesn’t exist or thrive anymore but autism increases every year.

The onus is on them to explain all the weird side effect parents report.

If you’re paranoid about “non vaxxed kids” then keep YOUR kids in home school. Don’t try to make people feel like they are playing Russian roulette with their child’s energy balance levels.

It’s not ok to hate on vaxxers and the way they are trying to educate is wrong.
Yeah cause people never lie on social media. They are always 100% truthful and upfront about their intentions.. lol you sheep
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Originally Posted By mstatefan91⏩
A quick google tells me that this has been done and that it supports vaccination.

You could have done that for yourself *******
I just googled and couldn't find it. Link me? All I can find is the CDC says the rates of autism is 1 in 45 but I couldn't find any data on the autism rates in unvaccinated vs vaccinated or studies where similar population groups were compared.
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Originally Posted By mstatefan91⏩
Yeah cause people never lie on social media. They are always 100% truthful and upfront about their intentions.. lol you sheep
the amount of media reports does NOT link up with how it would be if there was no side effects and was safe. its too much bulk of reports.

inversely the statistics aren't enough to say vaccines are flat out dangerous.

its a middle ground, but its the people pushing too far in one direction or the other that are wrong.

The pro vaxxers try to take too much ground, its not the way it is and anti vaxxers aren't flat earthers, there is meat there.
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Originally Posted By Benji
I give zero ****s about the whole vax vs anti-vax thing, but find it funny people are so 100% adamant that they know the absolute truth. Not that hard to pay for dodgy/frauded science papers for either side. If you have a vested interest and unlimited money you can come up with as much science as you want.
Pretty much this. Both side of the views are annoying
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
Ask yourself what is to be gained from anti-vaxxing? and what it to be gained from vaxxing everyone? one makes a small group people people very, very rich.
Lmao at "ask yourself what is to be gained through vaccinating everyone", as if there's no reason vaccinations are done.
Originally Posted By Benji
I haven't looked into it. There are probably scientists who disagree though.
Okay, thanks. Why don't they just compare autism rates in vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations? Has this ever been done? Without a doubt they would have data on this to check up, or just look at Amish populations?
Why don't you just Google "vaccines autism research" instead of making stupid fukn posts about the amish and chit.

Hey, surprise, there's tonnes of stuff on the subject, and it's very easy to find.
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
Lmao at "ask yourself what is to be gained through vaccinating everyone", as if there's no reason vaccinations are done.



Why don't you just Google "vaccines autism research" instead of making stupid fukn posts about the amish and chit.

Hey, surprise, there's tonnes of stuff on the subject, and it's very easy to find.
Then ****ing link me. I can't find ****.

So there has never been a single study ever done comparing autism rates in vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations?
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
Who knows. My point was there is a chit load of money to be made via selling vaccines vs no money being made not getting vaccines. As someone pointed out earlier, science can be manipulated to make others money. Also consider the state of adults today, fatter, sicker and fraction of the T levels of the past.

Also, My parents often bring up me as an example of vaxxing. When I got mine as a baby, I got quite sick and was never the same after.
Yes there is, but the guy who discovered the polio vaccine did not patent it because he believed in the good it would do. The guy literally passed on being the richest man in history to make the vaccine available to everyone for a low cost because of the science behind it.
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Originally Posted By Benji
I just googled and couldn't find it. Link me? All I can find is the CDC says the rates of autism is 1 in 45 but I couldn't find any data on the autism rates in unvaccinated vs vaccinated or studies where similar population groups were compared.
Ahh maybe I spoke too soon. This study appears to be about MMR and vaccinated vs unvaccinated MMR kids and autism.. not vaccinated vs unvaccinated in general. Maybe you should contact whatever local university around you and see what they know or try pubmed.. they might have something easy to digest.

Also, this is not my field so I am not as aware of what studies they run/have run in the past. I just know that scientists in general want to find the truth whatever it may be.. sure, we all have biases, and paradigm shift takes time but it also takes evidence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30831578

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30753348

Here is one that may address your concern more directly:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30297123
The number of children entering schools without mandated vaccinations has increased in high-income countries due to the rise of nonmedical exemptions from school vaccination requirements. Herd immunity is threatened when unvaccinated children are concentrated in spatial pockets. Despite the role of vaccine-autism controversy in the current wave of the anti-vaccine movement, we do not know if exemption clusters are associated with local autism rates; it is often assumed that these clusters are merely the result of sociodemographic composition. This study uses data on the number of students with a Personal Belief Exemption reported by schools from 1992 to 2014 and unique data on the locations of children with an autism diagnosis in California to study the correlates of large exemption pockets. Our spatial analysis shows that the prevalence of autism is not associated with the locations of large pockets of vaccination exemptions
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
TBH, with the current info on vaxxing, the best thing you can do is research each vaccination, determine the risk of side effects vs the risk of getting the disease and then make an informed decision. Take each vaccination on a case by case basis.

Just don't let the popular media chit on your choice by making you look like a flat earther because you're not an indoctrinated buffoon.
Making informed decisions is always the best idea but that is certainly not what this kids mom did by any means. I wouldn't doubt she is a flat earther
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that child is a weak minded pathetic liberal bytch.

You're fukcing 18. You survived. Getting vaccinated now serves no purpose.

Yet he's only doing it in pursuit of his ideological position. There's no rational reason to get vaccinated at that age. But no, bytch ass redditor has to prove a point to his ******* redditor friends about how mainstream he is. Pathetic, absolutely fukcing pathetic. And no, I'm not anti-vaxx, I'm anti being this consumed by your ideology. If this was my kid I would beat him to a pulp for being such a redditor bytch. At the end of the day, most things we believe is simply a decision of relying on one third party over another. Just lol at putting your mother on blast despite being a fully functional 18 year old just because she doesn't support your ideological stances. What a fukcing bytch
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The reality is the government, the communists, the pro-vaxxer bigots, honestly, dont really care if there is a chance your Childs mood has changed.

they dont care about the individual. only some abstract fear mongering about the threat of population disease. Like as if we are in the dark ages still and have to prevent some obsure plague from killing our babies.


1.

Pros: prevent spread of ancient long extinct diseases...
Cons: kids and babies might get chemically rebalanced and warped, autism...

2.

Pros: natural happy children
cons: they are not a cog in the "shield against ancient disease"


The communist will take number 1 comfortable every time because they dont care about YOUR baby they only care about themselves and being good little cattle... "everyone should be prodded like me"

What is infuriating is when they act like the cons to #1 dont exist
Originally Posted By DassItMan⏩
that child is a weak minded pathetic liberal bytch.

You're fukcing 18. You survived. Getting vaccinated now serves no purpose.

Yet he's only doing it in pursuit of his ideological position. There's no rational reason to get vaccinated at that age. But no, bytch ass redditor has to prove a point to his ******* redditor friends about how mainstream he is. Pathetic, absolutely fukcing pathetic.And no, I'm not anti-vaxx, I'm anti being this consumed by your ideology. If this was my kid I would beat him to a pulp for being such a redditor bytch. At the end of the day, most things we believe is simply a decision of relying on one third party over another. Just lol at putting your mother on blast despite being a fully functional 18 year old just because she doesn't support your ideological stances. What a fukcing bytch
fuking thank you!!
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Wait, the communists are behind vaccinations now? phuck me lmao
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Originally Posted By Benji
I give zero ****s about the whole vax vs anti-vax thing, but find it funny people are so 100% adamant that they know the absolute truth. Not that hard to pay for dodgy/frauded science papers for either side. If you have a vested interest and unlimited money you can come up with as much science as you want.
So much this.
Originally Posted By mstatefan91⏩
The problem is that the people claiming it causes autism have zero scientific evidence on their side.. In fact this goes back to the beginning of vaccination. WIB Beveridge wrote about the irrational fear of vaccines back in 1950.. This crap has been going around for over a hundred years with no evidence.. The evidence is that vaccines are largely safe and have eliminated a lot of diseases.
You totally missed that fellow's point. At the end of the day, there is very little we ourselves can verify. It's all a decision we make choosing to rely on one source of 3rd party information over another. There's very little we can know and verify on our own. Recognizing that we know very little is in a way knowing a lot. People get so defensive to defend things others tell them to defend and then other people argue back against them arguing things others tell them to argue. It's all really hysterical and sad when you sit back and reflect on it all.
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Originally Posted By DassItMan⏩
You totally missed that fellow's point. At the end of the day, there is very little we ourselves can verify. It's all a decision we make choosing to rely on one source of 3rd party information over another. There's very little we can know and verify on our own. Recognizing that we know very little is in a way knowing a lot. People get so defensive to defend things others tell them to defend and then other people argue back against them arguing things others tell them to argue. It's all really hysterical and sad when you sit back and reflect on it all.
I didn't miss his point. I addressed it in a different post. There are bad actors out there for sure, but most scientists want to work towards the truth. Paradigm shifts take time and evidence..

Maybe we will find out you're right and there is some dodgy chit going on with vaccination science in 40-50 years.. I just doubt it because there isn't evidence to suggest it.
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People against vaccines tend to be in the same camp as the people that believe there's a cure for cancer but doctors and drug companies would rather profit from treatments.

Which one is it? Drug companies want to keep you sick and treat the symptoms? Or they want to "poison" you with a cheap vaccine?

I would argue the antivax community has a greater financial incentive in supplements, radio shows, books, YouTube videos, and ego, over drug companies selling simple vaccines backed by hard evidence they prevent disease.
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
TBH, with the current info on vaxxing, the best thing you can do is research each vaccination, determine the risk of side effects vs the risk of getting the disease and then make an informed decision. Take each vaccination on a case by case basis.

Just don't let the popular media chit on your choice by making you look like a flat earther because you're not an indoctrinated buffoon.
This.

I will lean on the side of parents choosing how to raise their kids. You’re not a legal adult. It doesn’t classify as child abuse.

Less government intervention is always the more appropriate way to lean IMHO.
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Originally Posted By mstatefan91⏩
Maybe you should contact whatever local university around you and see what they know or try pubmed.. they might have something easy to digest.
Thanks, but I really don't care that much lol. I just thought for something as big as this it would have been done.

If that "spatial analysis" study is the best then that's sad as it's not even isolating and comparing the population groups against each other as it's not even the primary aim of the study.

It really is dodgy as **** a large scale epidemiological study hasn't been done when you'd think it would actually be pretty simple to do.
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
This.

None of us know whether vaxxing is safe or not. But blindly following others and refusing to question the status quo, and then proceeding to get butt hurt when others do, annoys me. Ask yourself what is to be gained from anti-vaxxing? and what it to be gained from vaxxing everyone? one makes a small group people people very, very rich.
Originally Posted By Benji
Then ****ing link me. I can't find ****.

So there has never been a single study ever done comparing autism rates in vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations?
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The reality is the government, the communists, the pro-vaxxer bigots, honestly, dont really care if there is a chance your Childs mood has changed.

they dont care about the individual. only some abstract fear mongering about the threat of population disease. Like as if we are in the dark ages still and have to prevent some obsure plague from killing our babies.


1.

Pros: prevent spread of ancient long extinct diseases...
Cons: kids and babies might get chemically rebalanced and warped, autism...

2.

Pros: natural happy children
cons: they are not a cog in the "shield against ancient disease"


The communist will take number 1 comfortable every time because they dont care about YOUR baby they only care about themselves

What is infuriating is when the act like the downside cons to #1 dont exist


fuking thank you!!
You are absolutely one of the most retarded kunts on the misc.

1. "Ancient disease". Fuk, do I need to go on? Absolute idiocy. I don't know if you've simply never seen that word used in context, but you're wrong.

The first smallpox vaccine was created in the late 17th century. Smallpox was eventually eradicated in the 1980s. I'm not sure you'll find anyone who will agree with you that 'ancient' can be accepted to describe thirty years ago.

2. The entire point of governments, or even simply of a society itself, is to put first the concerns of the society. People are important insofar as their needs are the needs of the society, as are their interests. To go around screaming "hurr communists" does nothing but expand the evidence of your severe intellectual deficiencies.


It's quite clear that the best case scenario is that you get all of your education from YouTube videos but, more likely, you don't watch the videos, and you've learnt everything you're so passionate about from the comments on YouTube videos.
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Originally Posted By DassItMan⏩
that child is a weak minded pathetic liberal bytch.

You're fukcing 18. You survived. Getting vaccinated now serves no purpose.

Yet he's only doing it in pursuit of his ideological position. There's no rational reason to get vaccinated at that age. But no, bytch ass redditor has to prove a point to his ******* redditor friends about how mainstream he is. Pathetic, absolutely fukcing pathetic. And no, I'm not anti-vaxx, I'm anti being this consumed by your ideology. If this was my kid I would beat him to a pulp for being such a redditor bytch. At the end of the day, most things we believe is simply a decision of relying on one third party over another. Just lol at putting your mother on blast despite being a fully functional 18 year old just because she doesn't support your ideological stances. What a fukcing bytch
The only bitch in this situation is the stupid mother trying to stop her kid from trying to be an intelligent human being. The kid is trying to learn about something that has actual scientific backing and shes telling him how he doesn't care about her and spitting on her etc. She deserved every bit of being put on blast. People like her are a detriment to society and not because her views on vaccinations but her as a person.
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Hey sweetie... can you sacrifice your beautiful baby boy or girl you are obsessively in love with to the autism gods??

We are worried our herd immunity levels might go down from 99% to 98%.... thanks for doing your part!
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
Lmao at "ask yourself what is to be gained through vaccinating everyone", as if there's no reason vaccinations are done.
It costs money, as in people make money via selling vaccinations. That was my point and it wasn't a tricky one.
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
Except that if you don't vaccinate your kid and there is an outbreak because the herd is not sufficiently vaccinated, then a vulnerable child could die. The kids who can't get vaccinated because they will basically die from the low dose of vaccination, need everyone else to be otherwise the disease will pop up and kill them. Thats how vaccines work.

Too many stupid people just don't understand how it works. I am sure a lot of you don't have kids, but the day you eventually do have children you will understand how parents who are actually educated on how it works thinks that anyone who doesn't vaccinate their kid is a complete donkey because they could kill other kids based on junk science.
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