Absolutely false. Statistics show right now there are far less men getting laid than previous generations.

Why would you post that video of that hopeless incel? At least post a video of an ugly guy getting girls or a guy transforming from incel to Chad or something but that video you posted doesn't help your case

OP is still sipping that bluepill kool-aid lmao it's so cute

People are maturing much later, if at all. Spending too much time on PC/video games, internet, social media etc. Too much fast food and being sedentary becoming fat and unattractive. Not developing social and life skills resulting in all these man children too awkward or timid to effectively deal with women and people in general.

[b]Hypergamy rule:[/b]

Females are programmed to go for the top males in their environment (today this include all their reach, IE all over the ****ing country thanks to social media, sometimes the whole world if they travel alot).

Wether it is 5, 10, 15 or 20% doesnt matter.

This means, that if you're 6/10 male, but you live in a closed village where every other male is a 3-4/10, you will be seen as VERY VERY hot by the women. They will essentially delude themselves that you're a 10, their rating system is extremely subjective and primitive. Its always relative, to the other males in their surrounding.

Females are experts at coping and coming up with rationalisations, they are masters at fooling themselves and then calibrating their emotions for this lie.

In other words:

Imagine a time when social media didn't exist, hell, not even internet.

You live in a 200.000 people town.

You're a 5.5/10 male.

This means you're better looking than many, many males.

This means that you will have quite a lot of options when it comes to sluts, ESPECIALLY if the society per se put a very strict pressure on monogamy, that is not slutting around like crazy whores as of today. When one good looking male is taken, he is taken, and the femoid starts looking for other options, instead of sharing him with 40 other femoids as of today.

If you're a 8/10 male,

But you're surrounded by 10/10 males,

[b]You will be invisible[b], femoids wont even look at you, cause its all about the[b]relative value.[/b]

Fast=forward to 2019, not only do you live in a society which basically tells femoids to slut around and have as much sex as humanly possible (They call this being a strong independent woman who does anything she wants not being held back by the evil patriarchy!), but you live in a society with internet/iphones, which essentially gives 3/10 females the option to get ****ed by 6s, 7s, 8s and even a few 9 males who are drunk an horny and just want a release.[b]Females now have a thing in their pocket, which feeds them with validation and sexual/romantic options 24 hours every day, year in and year out.[/b]

Female hypergamy rule: You NEVER wanna climb downwards the ladder.

When they have been ****ed by a 8/10 male, they will have a VERY hard time "accepting" a 5/10 male, even if they are 4/10 themselves.

The female is a very retarded creature, she do not perceive reality in any objective fashion, its all subjective for her. The value of others, and the value of herself. If she have been spammed by messages all day long how wonderful she is, if she have had one night stands with good looking and reasonable looking guys for years and years, she simply will refuse to settle down with any worse option.

This creates a situation with millions and millions of single moms who are 35 years old yet still believe they are worthy of a 28 year old muscular Chad hunk with a granite jaw and 12 inch cock.

They call this:[i]"Im looking for my dream prince!!"[/i], I've seen whores as old as 45 writing this **** on their online dating BIO, IM LOOKING FOR MY PRINCE AND KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR!


At the age of 45.


They will NOT settle for less.

If you're some average smuck with an average job working as a welder driving an average ****-car, with average social skills and charisma, with average looks .. my god, u better ****ing pray to god he will throw a nuke at us taking us back 1000 years instantly cause u will have a really difficult ****ing time getting a femoid EVEN CLOSE to your own average looks.

And even if you do, when you do, she will have a very ****ty attitude, cause she dont need you, in fact, you're an annoyance and instagram can provide her with way more dopamine spikes than your ****ty stories of your childhood or taking her out to a boring dinner.

This also means, however, that if you're a 5/10 WHITE male, and u go to a small little ****ty village in Thailand, where some are so ****ing poor they cannot even afford a ****ing internet connection, her femoid primitive brain WILL perceive you as a VERY good catch, handsome and great. Remember, its always relative to her (known) environment and options, how you actually look is somewhat irrelevant, its all about the perceived value relative to hers.

She will be perfectly happy with you, cause you are the best she could get, she will now delude herself that you are the best thing in the world and she will threat u very very good.

That is basically how western femoids functioned before social media, they were perfectly happy with an average looking male, many times even worse looking than themselves, cause relative to his environment, he was decent enough and could provide a better lifestyle for her, again, this deludes the female, it makes her believe you are better than u actually are and she will act accordingly.


[b]That is hypergamy.[/b]

The more options a female get, the more she craves.


Its not above any objective measurement, its always subjective, relative to her options and her enviroment.


Do you undersand that?

Do you understand how ****ing ****ed the average western male is in todays society cause of it?
Do you understand we will start seeing mass suicides of western males the coming decade? We are already seeing it now, but its about to explode. Imagine the 18 year old guys coming up now, who have grown up with the femoids in their age range getting FLOOODED FLOOODED FLOOODEEEDDD with attention from the age of 12 using iphones?

The average 18 year old female have gotten more attention and validation, than a 29 year old hollywood actress in the 80s or even 90s.

Do you understand what that will do do your brain? Your dopamine system?

At 30, my generation is probably the last one who got to experience a few good years of relatively normal young females 10-15 years ago before social media exploded. Let me tell you, the general attitude of females back then were much better than today.

Imagine 10 years from now, or 20?

The point is. The west is ****ed, the western male is ****ed and some kind of war is incoming and will happen.

Correct, for the most part.The way parents raise their kids definitely has a huge impact on which way their life goes. Not too late to change.Strong username to thread content ratio. Yes, the reason for that is because they lack confidence and many are emasculate. See my previous posts. It might be more true in western countries, though. Men in Eastern Europe don't really act like beta *******s. Even then it's because no one did anything about it. It's easy to just blame parents, but when you're older, it's up to you to be better.It's almost like you haven't even read anything I wrote.Explain to me then how I have no trouble with women. I'll give you a clue: I never treated women as though they were worth more than me. I pretty much treated everyone equally. I was polite to both men and women. If someone was being a bitch, I'd call them out. Even as an awkward loner teen I still didn't let people my age walk all over me. What I didn't do is get on the internet and make posts about how "women are so mean" and if I liked a girl I didn't send her a chitton of emails and cringe-y "plz respond" messages (for the most part, lol).I'd argue that women are physically maturing younger and men later. Oh, you're referring to mental maturity? I agree that video games and social media let people hide behind anonymous accounts instead of talking face-to-face. When I was a teen we only had MSN and Yahoo! messengers. Then came MySpace and it slowly went downhill from there.

Dude, I was in my early 20s when I returned to my motherland and saw how much more mature teens were. My 16 yo cousin already had plans for marriage and was into bodybuilding. It was still easy to get laid, because teens would treat sexuality like adults do. I'm not gonna say all the crazy stories of how people live. This is just from my observations.

I wouldn't say that its easier for men to get laid nowadays, overall. That is too much of a generalisation and would be hard to back-up with raw info.

However, I don't really buy into the "incel" labelling. I would say only a minority of "incels" are genuinely unable to get laid PERIOD and do not stand a chance despite trying. A lot of is negativity and the feeling of being a victim of this cruel, unfair society where sex is not evenly distributed. Having read Elliot Roger's manifesto, you can tell that he had a sickening sense of entitlement and wanted beautiful females to throw themselves at his feet because of how magnificent and gentleman-like he was. When the harsh reality set it and he realised he was not the magnet he believed himself to be, the resentment of females and society set in and he developed an idea that he was being punished and "denied" sex. Yet self-declared incels still idolised this psycho and saw reason in his ideology.

I don't really get attention from females. However I don't see this as an injustice as I do not deserve their attention purely for being muscular. If they are not really interested, what can you do? I would have to class myself as more MGTOW as this lifestyle is more choice than ill circumstance.

[QUOTE=BlackPill post_id=1576687361][b]Hypergamy rule:[/b]

Females are programmed to go for the top males in their environment (today this include all their reach, IE all over the ****ing country thanks to social media, sometimes the whole world if they travel alot).

Wether it is 5, 10, 15 or 20% doesnt matter.

This means, that if you're 6/10 male, but you live in a closed village where every other male is a 3-4/10, you will be seen as VERY VERY hot by the women. They will essentially delude themselves that you're a 10, their rating system is extremely subjective and primitive. Its always relative, to the other males in their surrounding.

Females are experts at coping and coming up with rationalisations, they are masters at fooling themselves and then calibrating their emotions for this lie.

In other words:

Imagine a time when social media didn't exist, hell, not even internet.

You live in a 200.000 people town.

You're a 5.5/10 male.

This means you're better looking than many, many males.

This means that you will have quite a lot of options when it comes to sluts, ESPECIALLY if the society per se put a very strict pressure on monogamy, that is not slutting around like crazy whores as of today. When one good looking male is taken, he is taken, and the femoid starts looking for other options, instead of sharing him with 40 other femoids as of today.

If you're a 8/10 male,

But you're surrounded by 10/10 males,

[b]You will be invisible[b], femoids wont even look at you, cause its all about the[b]relative value.[/b]

Fast=forward to 2019, not only do you live in a society which basically tells femoids to slut around and have as much sex as humanly possible (They call this being a strong independent woman who does anything she wants not being held back by the evil patriarchy!), but you live in a society with internet/iphones, which essentially gives 3/10 females the option to get ****ed by 6s, 7s, 8s and even a few 9 males who are drunk an horny and just want a release.[b]Females now have a thing in their pocket, which feeds them with validation and sexual/romantic options 24 hours every day, year in and year out.[/b]

Female hypergamy rule: You NEVER wanna climb downwards the ladder.

When they have been ****ed by a 8/10 male, they will have a VERY hard time "accepting" a 5/10 male, even if they are 4/10 themselves.

The female is a very retarded creature, she do not perceive reality in any objective fashion, its all subjective for her. The value of others, and the value of herself. If she have been spammed by messages all day long how wonderful she is, if she have had one night stands with good looking and reasonable looking guys for years and years, she simply will refuse to settle down with any worse option.

This creates a situation with millions and millions of single moms who are 35 years old yet still believe they are worthy of a 28 year old muscular Chad hunk with a granite jaw and 12 inch cock.

They call this:[i]"Im looking for my dream prince!!"[/i], I've seen whores as old as 45 writing this **** on their online dating BIO, IM LOOKING FOR MY PRINCE AND KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR!


At the age of 45.


They will NOT settle for less.

If you're some average smuck with an average job working as a welder driving an average ****-car, with average social skills and charisma, with average looks .. my god, u better ****ing pray to god he will throw a nuke at us taking us back 1000 years instantly cause u will have a really difficult ****ing time getting a femoid EVEN CLOSE to your own average looks.

And even if you do, when you do, she will have a very ****ty attitude, cause she dont need you, in fact, you're an annoyance and instagram can provide her with way more dopamine spikes than your ****ty stories of your childhood or taking her out to a boring dinner.

This also means, however, that if you're a 5/10 WHITE male, and u go to a small little ****ty village in Thailand, where some are so ****ing poor they cannot even afford a ****ing internet connection, her femoid primitive brain WILL perceive you as a VERY good catch, handsome and great. Remember, its always relative to her (known) environment and options, how you actually look is somewhat irrelevant, its all about the perceived value relative to hers.

She will be perfectly happy with you, cause you are the best she could get, she will now delude herself that you are the best thing in the world and she will threat u very very good.

That is basically how western femoids functioned before social media, they were perfectly happy with an average looking male, many times even worse looking than themselves, cause relative to his environment, he was decent enough and could provide a better lifestyle for her, again, this deludes the female, it makes her believe you are better than u actually are and she will act accordingly.


[b]That is hypergamy.[/b]

The more options a female get, the more she craves.


Its not above any objective measurement, its always subjective, relative to her options and her enviroment.


Do you undersand that?

Do you understand how ****ing ****ed the average western male is in todays society cause of it?
Do you understand we will start seeing mass suicides of western males the coming decade? We are already seeing it now, but its about to explode. Imagine the 18 year old guys coming up now, who have grown up with the femoids in their age range getting FLOOODED FLOOODED FLOOODEEEDDD with attention from the age of 12 using iphones?

The average 18 year old female have gotten more attention and validation, than a 29 year old hollywood actress in the 80s or even 90s.

Do you understand what that will do do your brain? Your dopamine system?

At 30, my generation is probably the last one who got to experience a few good years of relatively normal young females 10-15 years ago before social media exploded. Let me tell you, the general attitude of females back then were much better than today.

Imagine 10 years from now, or 20?

The point is. The west is ****ed, the western male is ****ed and some kind of war is incoming and will happen.[/QUOTE][img]https://media.giphy.com/media/YPIrsRqqO7oB2/giphy.gif[/img]

Will get back to you soon, boyo.

So you're admitting I'm correct.

I like how you're 100% putting the blame on men.. It couldn't be a combination of feminism, online dating giving women a billion options, and unmitigated hypergamy.

It's pretty well established that relationships are far less stable today, and the average person is having less sex, but has more sexual partners over the course of his or her life. Depression is up. The cost of living is higher and the ability to support a family is more difficult to achieve. All these things contribute to the decay of the social structure. IDK why the existence of incels shocks you. Go look at Japan if you want to see where we are headed.

I knew I'd get called on my choice of words lol.

What I meant to say is that while there may be a percentage of legitimate incels that can't attract women no matter what (like if they're 1/10 or something); a lot of them (who call themselves incel), if they put in the due diligence, wouldn't be incel anymore, but they don't and instead blame the world for their problems or whatever.

If I had to go into the concept of the redpill and how we came to where we are today I would have to write a novel and post it on the freaken misc. To understand how all of this came to be, first you'd have to know the etymology of the Written Word (the Bible). Remember the story of Genesis and when Eve was beguiled by Nachash (the serpent), God didn't ask her why she sinned and "ate of the forbidden fruit", but he asked Adam. Why? Because as a man, it was Adam's responsibility to look after his woman and make sure she doesn't get out of line. The point of Genesis and essentially the entire Bible is that we are where we are because of our disobedience to our Creator.

Virtually everything that happened afterwards began after The Fall. Feminism is merely an extension of our ancestor's Original Sin. Just as it pretty much all wickedness under the sun. But it was men who allowed the movement to thrive and didn't prevent it. Both men and women are to blame for their actions, but never forget who the leader is. If an alpha male messes up and doesn't do as he must, it's up to the beta to take his place. If the beta fails then women rise into politics and religious matters. Just as was seen throughout history whenever men's mind, spirit and heart faltered.

I'm not putting 100% fault on men, but for the most part incels are at fault of their own accord. What exactly have they done to change the system? Hard men create good times, good times create soft men, soft men create bad times. On and on it goes. But community begins first with the man. If a man follows after his own greed then likewise women will go after their own whoredoms. Prostitution would never have existed if men weren't weak. How would women have seduced men if they were strong from the get go?

Women are helpers of men, not enemies. There was a Christian forum that I used to lurk on and there was a guy who complained about how he couldn't find a decent woman in over 20 years. He was so desperate that he'd frequent bars and the relationships he'd get into were as you can imagine. Over time the members told him off because all he ever did was whine. He became the epitome of what a man should not be. Instead of focusing his mind on spiritual growth and bettering himself he'd write long ass winded posts against feminism, forgetting that feminism only occurred AFTER men started becoming soft.

It could be all of that. It doesnt't matter. It's survival of the fittest. Get in where you fit in or get out. Nobody owes you sht, and the world doesn't change because you want it to. Adapt and be the creator of your own destiny.


This.

Good thing I never said anyone owes me anything.

Good. Then get out there and get you some pussy.

Not happening.

Who’s gonna read all that?

get help

I have a theory that the epidemic of narcissism is part of it. A lot of incels have high standards and think they deserve at least 7's and 8's and would rather go without than settle for sex with a 4 or 5. The advent of social media and online dating has made it so easy for 7/10 and 8/10 sloots to find literally hundreds of men who are at their level or higher, incels are now invisible to them, either for superficial reasons (height, weight, balding) or for socialization reasons (awkward texting, shy) or both. In the old days, when you met in person, at least you had a chance to show your personality and some sloots didn't mind giving an awkward guy a shot. Now, it's all about not giving a reason to be left swiped in the 5-10 seconds she spends looking at your profile.

In short, today's incels are incel because they overvalue themselves in an era that more harshly punishes narcissistic delusions.

However, if you're a 9/10 Chad, narcissism will help you with dating. Funny how that works out...

I was always against legalizing prostitution, but I'm starting to think maybe it should be legal afterall. There seems to be a whole generation of Supreme Gentlemen being spawned that will need some sort of release other than violent rampaging through campus.

Imagine caring so much about other people's sex lives.

And your theory is nonsense.

Because some people have standards and others are possibly not good looking enough to even get a 5/10. And who wants to fuk 3's? It's very easy to understand why incels exist now days.

Just because your situation is different, doesn't mean my theory is wrong.

The entitlement that angry incels feel comes from narcissism IMHO.

So modify your theory to "The entitlement that SOME angry incels feel comes from narcissism", since you know for a fact that not all incels are incelibate due to feelings of entitlement or narcissism.

More-like set up just right for incels, minus social media

Imagine every girl you ever hung out with. Now imagine instead of them saying "yeah let's hang out" they turn you down or make excuses. For me, that is how it is.As has been said a few times here, some of these folks are not "desperate" to have sex.I have made friends with plenty of women online who I would regularly game with. Exactly 0 were interested in ever meeting me or pursuing a relationship, and all of them know what I look like.This is awfully silly. Yes, there are some guys out there who are like that, but this is far from a safe generalization.Well when you strike out with almost every kind of woman, then yes you are likely ugly.

When visiting my mother in the hospital, I saw a girl I recognized from high school. I gave her a friendly wave, and she looked repulsed. Another girl I met at my brother's gf's birthday party tried to spread a rumor that I was creeping on her ********, even though I don't remember who she even is or spoke to her beyond an introduction.

I have had several dating profiles on different occasions, and the only girl who ever messaged me did so to complain about her ex.

I posted some pictures of me here years ago and if I remember correctly, the feedback I got was mostly "wear contacts" lol.

Wouldn't that correlate to having a higher chance with any given broad you fancy?

If you think 2 + 2 = Potato, sure.

Then stfu about how 'hypergamy,' online dating and feminism are the root of the problem. When guys like you won't even make an effort to get laid and then claim that the fault lies with societal shifts, you're basically shifting blame as a coping mechanism--even in the 'good ol' days' you would have been too much of a pussy to talk to women.

It's "not happening" because I'm an ugly fuk and women aren't interested in me when they have 1000 chads blowing up their phone/social media/online dating apps 24/7. It is literally impossible to compete with that.