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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
That graph is 10 years old boyo, what are the current numbers?


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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩





I think this one tells the better story. Total fructose and obesity have tracked together very well. Doesn't matter if it's sucrose, glucose, or fructose.


edit: dunno why but img embedding is fukked at work rn....
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
That graph is 10 years old boyo, what are the current numbers?
HFCS more prevalent. Obesity increased.

The problem with HFCS, it's trash. It's way more impactful (negatively) than any other carbohydrate (which we eat way too much of anyway).

Fructose can ONLY be processed in the liver, like alcohol. Regular glucose, which is bad enough with the way it spikes insulin, it can be used by every cell in the body as energy. You overeat on glucose, well odds are it's in the form of something that had some value, like a potato or rice, fiber and such, it digests slower, your body has more time to process it, more time to use it as energy and every cell in your body can use it. You can certainly overeat on glucose but it's a lot harder, however, you take in enough and when your body can't store any more glycogen in your muscles or liver and isn't using it as energy, then it gets stored as fat.

Fructose, meanwhile, goes straight to your liver. Your liver stores a ton of glycogen as energy, which is great, but most people are not active enough and are eating too much, so it gets stored as fat, with fructose being much more immediately stored as fat on your liver itself, which is just terrible health-wise.

Fruit, which is also high in fructose, tends to have vitamins and minerals and be high in fiber, all this balances out the fructose to a degree (although I recommend fruit in moderation, not one of these high-fruit diets, esp if you're losing weight or trying). HFCS, you quickly get way more than what you find in nature (which was already modified to be sweeter and higher fructose anyway), often no fiber, often with a lot of calories and fat and often with no vitamins or minerals (junk food, sodas, ice creams, etc).
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩



I think this one tells the better story. Total fructose and obesity have tracked together very well. Doesn't matter if it's sucrose, glucose, or fructose.
conveniently leaves off post 2000





point being that muh insulin isn't effected by eating sugar and the correlation between poor insulin sensitivity and sugar intake isn't there. You become more insulin resistant the fatter you become, regardless of what you eat to get fat. So sweeteners and insulin is the modern day scape goat, people eat more than ever due to convenience of it and how many calories are thrown into everything you buy in restaurants. I also wood bet good money the amount of people who snack is directly related to the obesity rates, you ever worked or been around fat people? They literally can't go an hr without eating a bag of m&m's or whatever and that chit adds up during the day. Constant snacking, high calorie foods at meals and overall lack of giving a chit is the reason it continues to rise.
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
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point being that muh insulin isn't effected by eating sugar and the correlation between poor insulin sensitivity and sugar intake isn't there. You become more insulin resistant the fatter you become, regardless of what you eat to get fat. So sweeteners and insulin is the modern day scape goat, people eat more than ever due to convenience of it and how many calories are thrown into everything
I'm not saying people are insulin resistant specifically because of the presence of sugars in their diets. I'm saying there was an anti-fat or fat-fearing wave in the late 1900's and people were tricked into thinking their foods were good for them because they were low-fat.

In reality, they were extremely calorie dense and people were getting fat. Like you said, it's fat that makes you insulin resistant, not high-carb diets, but when you're eating a crazy calorie surplus made up primarily of simple carbs, they'll end up as triglycerides, a fat, in the end anyway.


I also agree that the continued obesity epidemic is caused in part by our culture. Convenience is king and the sedentary lifestyle is the norm now.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
I'm not saying people are insulin resistant specifically because of the presence of sugars in their diets. I'm saying there was an anti-fat or fat-fearing wave in the late 1900's and people were tricked into thinking their foods were good for them because they were low-fat.

In reality, they were extremely calorie dense and people were getting fat. Like you said, it's fat that makes you insulin resistant, not high-carb diets, but when you're eating a crazy calorie surplus made up primarily of simple carbs, they'll end up as triglycerides, a fat, in the end anyway.


I also agree that the continued obesity epidemic is caused in part by our culture. Convenience is king and the sedentary lifestyle is the norm now.
i think it definitely played a roll because you could slap a "reduced fat!" or "low fat!" sticker on oreo's when of course it's low fat when the serving size is 1 oreo. Greedy marketing is brutal to the world as a whole imo

But, and this is just something i've become a true believe in being around a significant amount o morbidly obese people, I truly think if there was a hard push to not snack and only eat 3 times a day we'd see rates drop. It's absolutely pissening seeing a morbidly obese person eat their 4th pack of candy within the past 2hrs say "i don't eat that much i just have bad genetics" when i've concluded it's cause they think they don't eat much at meals, which they probably don't since they slammed 1500 cals in between their last meal and the salad they're about to eat.
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I was thinking, you ever wonder if there's a connection to the falling rate of smokers an the rising rate of fat people?wouldn't a nicotine addict have the potential to become a food addict, same way heron addicts take up cigarettes ie become nicotine addicts when they quit? Like everyone that quit smoking in the 90s and 00s just replaced their addiction with food...


idk i got fat the good ol' fashion way. eat too much move too little
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g⏩
We fat as fuk son.


As soon as male standards started accepting whales it was all downhill from there.
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Technology has dumbed people down and made people more lazy.


A lot of these new tech companies strive to make things more accessible.. which eliminates the need to move around and do certain things.
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Originally Posted By Esrex⏩
I was thinking, you ever wonder if there's a connection to the falling rate of smokers an the rising rate of fat people? Like everyone that quit smoking in the 90s and 00s just replaced their addiction with food...


idk
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
i think it definitely played a roll because you could slap a "reduced fat!" or "low fat!" sticker on oreo's when of course it's low fat when the serving size is 1 oreo. Greedy marketing is brutal to the world as a whole imo

But, and this is just something i've become a true believe in being around a significant amount o morbidly obese people, I truly think if there was a hard push to not snack and only eat 3 times a day we'd see rates drop. It's absolutely pissening seeing a morbidly obese person eat their 4th pack of candy within the past 2hrs say "i don't eat that much i just have bad genetics" when i've concluded it's cause they think they don't eat much at meals, which they probably don't since they slammed 1500 cals in between their last meal and the salad they're about to eat.
Just absolutely pissening. Also gonna blame tech, brb people stay inside 99.99% of the time now. It's like we created this perfect storm to create the most lazy, clueless, fat as fuk individuals.
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Sitting at 210lbs m8, doctor assesses BMI based on height/BW only and BAM statistics

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What I think is bad, is gymcels who workout 4-6 hours per week are considered extremely active... But compared to the day-to-day physical labor/life in general of previous generations, today's gymcel would be considered sedentary AF...

Internet access/technology correlates better with these obesity graphs than any other variable.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Looking at your Avi, you tell us bro.
I got fat after I got married and a serious job. In my case I kept on eating like I lift and stopped lifting haha. Now that I'm lifting again I'm 50lbs down from my avi

but wouldn't a nicotine addict have the potential to become a food addict, same way heron addicts take up cigarettes ie become nicotine addicts when they quit?
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[QUOTE=jeshelton post_id=1578593211]Sitting at 210lbs m8, doctor assesses BMI based on height/BW only and BAM statistics

[img]https://i.imgur.com/cMfkFGP.jpg[/ig][/QUOTE]Well you're 1 person.... I think it's pretty obvious the USA has not universally adopted bodybuilding as a cultural norm lol.
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Originally Posted By colbski⏩
Technology has dumbed people down and made people more lazy.
kinda goes hand in hand with the "fast fast fast now now now" world we're in

people think they don't have time to cook because it's not instant.. any "instant" foods are loaded with preservatives and bull**** to boot, so the easy solution is eat out for 75% of your meals which easily become 1500-2000 calorie meals with all the sugared sodas people inhale
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Originally Posted By Esrex⏩
I got fat after I got married and a serious job. In my case I kept on eating like I lift and stopped lifting haha. Now that I'm lifting again I'm 50lbs down from my avi

but wouldn't a nicotine addict have the potential to become a food addict, same way heron addicts take up cigarettes ie become nicotine addicts when they quit?
Of course! People always find a habit or activity to replace another habit. Some people smoke to curb appetites and cure boredom. Remove the cigarette and now people become restless, bored and eat to cure the boredom.
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Originally Posted By Esrex⏩
I was thinking, you ever wonder if there's a connection to the falling rate of smokers an the rising rate of fat people?wouldn't a nicotine addict have the potential to become a food addict, same way heron addicts take up cigarettes ie become nicotine addicts when they quit? Like everyone that quit smoking in the 90s and 00s just replaced their addiction with food...


idk i got fat the good ol' fashion way. eat too much move too little
honestly an interesting thought since i think those with addictive personalities will always have to have something that satisfies that hole (heh). I mean just listen to people talk about dieting hunger is basically withdrawal similar to any other substance. Easy, cheap, legal dopamine fix
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Just absolutely pissening. Also gonna blame tech, brb people stay inside 99.99% of the time now. It's like we created this perfect storm to create the most lazy, clueless, fat as fuk individuals.
this too, would be really interesting to see how many hours were spent moving vs sitting still per person 100 years ago vs today
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
What I think is bad, is gymcels who workout 4-6 hours per week are considered extremely active... But compared to the day-to-day physical labor/life in general of previous generations, today's gymcel would be considered sedentary AF...

Internet access/technology correlates better with these obesity graphs than any other variable.
Jim Wendler was talking about this on ELiteFTS podcast RE: his HS football athletes. In his HS FB days people were much more athletic because you know they played outside.
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Originally Posted By amikaelmorris⏩
kinda goes hand in hand with the "fast fast fast now now now" world we're in

people think they don't have time to cook because it's not instant.. any "instant" foods are loaded with preservatives and bull**** to boot, so the easy solution is eat out for 75% of your meals which easily become 1500-2000 calorie meals with all the sugared sodas people inhale
very true. all these technological services enhance our ability to cater to the day to day grind while allowing access to all the "services" or "dis-services" we "need".. And guess what, you don't have to do a thing! Everything you need is at your fingertips. Need your dog walked? We have that service for you! Need groceries? Don't fret, we will have someone deliver that to you! Need your car washed? We have wash bays and people to do that for you. All these technological advances are efficient but make humans less sufficient.
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Originally Posted By AniMaLizTik⏩
the video gamer culture followed by computers followed by smart phones followed by STEM careers........all together = little to no physical activity

add the chity western diet and it's not difficult to understand.
This. My father and brother have had weight problems their whole life. They both bought into this idea that you get the good job, the house and spouse and everything else falls into place.
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So its gone up 7% in 30 years?

What's happened in these last 30 years?

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Uhhh no. It’s gone up way more than 7% you retard.

The old high was below 15%, the new low is above 22%. That does not mean overall it only went up 7%. Jesus f*ck GED completion needs to be a requirement to misc
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I've seen old family pictures that capture public areas (parks, city, events, concerts, etc.) from the 1940's and 50's and there is literally nobody overweight in them. I just can't believe it.
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