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post 1600488911 03-22-2020, 08:45 PM
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all indications are that it's a wall street bill in its current form. somebody please post evidence that everyday people are being taken care of.
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post 1600490061 03-22-2020, 09:01 PM
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Just the Dems fighting for the little guy as usual.

Swampy Steve could exempt any company he wanted from the no stock buyback clause.

Kind of like that’s all companies did with Trump’s tax cuts for rich. Surely he’ll campaign on that.
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post 1600490421 03-22-2020, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By jimmyjabbar⏩
This is when you realize dudes will be partisan and starve rather than give up their political allegiances in a time of crisis. The bill was chit; the Republicans came to the table trying to bully their way thinking the democrats would swallow whatever they put out there.
Specifically, how was the bill “****”? It seems like both parties had agreed upon the bill, and both have a little something to get it through.

So, be specific with how the bill was “****” in your eyes.
post 1600490521 03-22-2020, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Because they're trying to keep businesses afloat instead of just sending everyone in America $1000 so that there are jobs to come back to when this is over you potato...
So you are admitting that government spending creates jobs and not tax cuts? Interesting.
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post 1600490621 03-22-2020, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
all indications are that it's a wall street bill in its current form. somebody please post evidence that everyday people are being taken care of.
Everyone that made under $75,000 was going to get $1,200 and phased out to $0 if you made over $99,000. Specifically, how were the “everyday people” not being taken care of. And define what what the “everyday people” are.
post 1600490661 03-22-2020, 09:10 PM
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Idk but last I checked it was full of corporation bailouts but no check for me.

I guess I need to hurry up and incorporate.
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Originally Posted By jimmyjabbar⏩
which is fine, but there should be oversight on this chit. No more businesses taking a bailout only to buy back stocks. Thats some bullchit
This. There is great stuff for bailouts for small business, but republicans want to extend the bailouts to large corporations without any oversight as well as stock buyback. Basically, they see this bill as securing future profits for themselves, while pissing on the working american and calling it rain.
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post 1600490801 03-22-2020, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Just the Dems fighting for the little guy as usual.

Swampy Steve could exempt any company he wanted from the no stock buyback clause.

Kind of like that’s all companies did with Trump’s tax cuts for rich. Surely he’ll campaign on that.
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post 1600490831 03-22-2020, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
This. There is great stuff for bailouts for small business, but republicans want to extend the bailouts to large corporations without any oversight as well as stock buyback. Basically, they see this bill as securing future profits for themselves, while pissing on the working american and calling it rain.
Trump specifically said no stock buy backs. Can you cite specifically where buy backs were to be allowed in the bill?
post 1600491191 03-22-2020, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
So you are admitting that government spending creates jobs and not tax cuts? Interesting.
Not at all, I'm stating that government spending, in this instance, directed at businesses in an emergency, is going to keep businesses open. A Tax cut for businesses (not asking them to pay sales tax on sales they've earned to date, etc) would help restaurants/retail locations as well.

This is going to be difficult for you, but even conservatives view what we're doing presently as part of the role of the government. Helping the country get through a difficult time lasting a few months is different from propping up the country all the time on government spending. Derp.
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post 1600491351 03-22-2020, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Not at all, I'm stating that government spending, in this instance, directed at businesses in an emergency, is going to keep businesses open. A Tax cut for businesses (not asking them to pay sales tax on sales they've earned to date, etc) would help restaurants/retail locations as well.

This is going to be difficult for you, but even conservatives view what we're doing presently as part of the role of the government. Helping the country get through a difficult time lasting a few months is different from propping up the country all the time on government spending. Derp.
That's exactly what Keynesian economics is though. Government spending through difficult times.
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post 1600491571 03-22-2020, 09:21 PM
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Also...

...are we doing this every month now, or what?

Because this is going to be like this for some time.
post 1600491581 03-22-2020, 09:21 PM
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Good, that bill was garbage. Brb lets bail out multibillion dollar corporations and give checks to Every american, except the ones we deem wealthy because they should know better. Shame on them for not saving enough money.
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post 1600491801 03-22-2020, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted By leafs43⏩
Regular folks who generally don't follow politics will only see this as "Democrats blocked us from getting a relief check"


lmao if you think this was a good idea.
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post 1600491811 03-22-2020, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
That's exactly what Keynesian economics is though. Government spending through difficult times.
Except for when you blow up government spending all the time instead of just specific, targeted spending in limited areas to sustain business over a limited time.

Suspension of payroll tax would help as an alternative, but they're offering loans. /Shrug.




Want to know what's really getting folks through this? Suspending government red tape on licensing and manufacturing.

Meanwhile, you're mad because the President doesn't want to let the largest employers in the country fail.
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post 1600491911 03-22-2020, 09:27 PM
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Corporations are the entities that employ all these people. They need to stay afloat, and if they don't our country is done.
post 1600492071 03-22-2020, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Except for when you blow up government spending all the time instead of just specific, targeted spending in limited areas to sustain business over a limited time.

Suspension of payroll tax would help as an alternative, but they're offering loans. /Shrug.




Want to know what's really getting folks through this? Suspending government red tape on licensing and manufacturing.

Meanwhile, you're mad because the President doesn't want to let the largest employers in the country fail.
You mean the massive government spending, including 1 trillion in military spending over the last few years?

If Trump wasn't an idiot and didn't get rid of the pandemic specialists none of this would be an issue. So Trump is to blame for all of it. I also doesn't help that Trump is actively calling the virus a hoax at his rallies which makes it spread even more.
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post 1600492351 03-22-2020, 09:34 PM
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post 1600492611 03-22-2020, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
You mean the massive government spending, including 1 trillion in military spending over the last few years?

If Trump wasn't an idiot and didn't get rid of the pandemic specialists none of this would be an issue. So Trump is to blame for all of it. I also doesn't help that Trump is actively calling the virus a hoax at his rallies which makes it spread even more.
1. Trump didn't get rid of the pandemic specialists. We have a fully functional pandemic response team at the CDC. He got rid of a board of advisers who sit around costing millions doing nothing that was created when Obama bombed the Ebola outbreak half a decade ago.

2. Trump never called the virus a hoax. He called the democrat response to it a hoax.

3. What military spending? He's ended a war in Syria and is ending a war in Afghanistan. Are you trying to conflate maintaining a military with direct payments to citizens during a pandemic which is interrupting their ability to work?

Holy ****...
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post 1600492751 03-22-2020, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
1. Trump didn't get rid of the pandemic specialists. We have a fully functional pandemic response team at the CDC. He got rid of a board of advisers who sit around costing millions doing nothing that was created when Obama bombed the Ebola outbreak half a decade ago.

2. Trump never called the virus a hoax. He called the democrat response to it a hoax.

3. What military spending? He's ended a war in Syria and is ending a war in Afghanistan. Are you trying to conflate maintaining a military with direct payments to citizens during a pandemic which is interrupting their ability to work?

Holy ****...
I said military spending that has increased dramaticallyover the last 3 yearsholy **** you're retarded.

And LOL at our pandemic response team. I seriously hope you don't have anyone 65+ in your house. Jesus Christ you're dumb get some help man.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
1. Trump didn't get rid of the pandemic specialists. We have a fully functional pandemic response team at the CDC. He got rid of a board of advisers who sit around costing millions doing nothing that was created when Obama bombed the Ebola outbreak half a decade ago.

2. Trump never called the virus a hoax. He called the democrat response to it a hoax.

3. What military spending? He's ended a war in Syria and is ending a war in Afghanistan. Are you trying to conflate maintaining a military with direct payments to citizens during a pandemic which is interrupting their ability to work?

Holy ****...
Dude you can’t reason with the nutcases, don’t waste the brain cells on them. They are all seeing orange.

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i dont get it. isnt senate rep majority? how does a bill not pass at will by republicans
post 1600493551 03-22-2020, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah⏩
i dont get it. isnt senate rep majority? how does a bill not pass at will by republicans
Because some Republicans voted against it. But people here think they are RINO's conspiring to get rid of Trump. They are think the coronavirus is a hoax so you can't reason with these idiots.
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah⏩
i dont get it. isnt senate rep majority? how does a bill not pass at will by republicans
Senate requires 60 votes to pass. Dems have 47 votes, Republicans have 53. Dems can prevent laws from passing the Senate if they choose to do so and are unified.
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah⏩
i dont get it. isnt senate rep majority? how does a bill not pass at will by republicans
House writes the bill and votes on it, then sends that version to the Senate.

Senate, either amends the bill and it goes back to the house for them to review and decide to move forward on that bill and revise again, or the Senate passes it.

If it passes the Senate, it goes to the president who has the option to sign or veto.
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
I said military spending that has increased dramaticallyover the last 3 yearsholy **** you're retarded.

And LOL at our pandemic response team. I seriously hope you don't have anyone 65+ in your house. Jesus Christ you're dumb get some help man.
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post 1600493981 03-22-2020, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
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You are so retarded it's not even funny. You think you are smart but actually a dumb fuk looking at your post history you thought the coronavirus was a hoax too.
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
You are so retarded it's not even funny. You think you are smart but actually a dumb fuk looking at your post history you thought the coronavirus was a hoax too.
Never said it was a hoax. Apparently I'm in good company on underestimating the impact, you know me, the World Health Organization, every country on Earth...
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You are so retarded it's not even funny. You think you are smart but actually a dumb fuk looking at your post history you thought the coronavirus was a hoax too.
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Originally Posted By jimmyjabbar⏩
which is fine, but there should be oversight on this chit. No more businesses taking a bailout only to buy back stocks. Thats some bullchit
Not only that but many companies took Obama handouts then outsourced tons of jobs soon after anyway. Brb company stays afloat and workers got jack chit trickled down to then.
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