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post 1611251651 07-21-2020, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By IronProdigy⏩
A children school teacher
I'm a special education teacher. I'm probably one of only a handful of people on this forum who can wrap my head around how this girl was taught based on my experiences teaching handicapped kids.
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post 1611251831 07-21-2020, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By jreacher⏩
This implies the story was a reproduction:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4446145...o_tab_contents

Having a hard time viewing it on mobile but I believe that is what it is saying
I feel like the whole concept was pre science/evolution notion of inspiring testament to the complexity of the human mind.

I feel like before we realized what we actually were (Monkeys jacking off) we saw ourselves as these grand mystical beings and the awe and inspiration of human fortitude and survival.

But now it’s just like, well yeah, our DNA is programmed to Survive and reproduce against all odds so what?

And so that turmoil is now reframed as that’s all it is, meaningless turmoil, while in the past we glorified it due to the mystique of the human mind.

But in modern context it’s just a sick horror story
post 1611253821 07-21-2020, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Again, with conditioning/reinforcement, every time she made a sound that was correct, she would be rewarded. This eventually leads to growth. I'm not going to type out full chapters from Learning Theories and Psychology courses on BB.com, but this is not unthinkable stuff for people who understand learning theories.
Y'all are focusing on the wrong things. The issue isn't whether a blind and deaf person can understand concepts. The issue is that she had 0 human interaction, as she understood things, through the most important years of her development. It has been proven time and again with feral children that after a certain age you cannot teach people to do things. The fact that "she" spent most of her time espousing the greatness of bolshevik communism just further cements in my mind this was no miracle just a poor woman who was used
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post 1611255091 07-21-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I'm a special education teacher. I'm probably one of only a handful of people on this forum who can wrap my head around how this girl was taught based on my experiences teaching handicapped kids.
I understand that teaching a deaf person or a blind person or a physically or mentally disabled person is possible. But how can a person who is completely in the dark learn to speak when they missed out on key development points in their life? Especially early childhood which is increasingly emphasize in modern psychology? In trauma therapy they teach you that the infant period of a person's life is the most important stage in mental development.

In her biography, it says she was taught kitchen and house duties by her maid, such as kneading dough, but that she didnt think Helen would ever be able to speak. How do you go from not being able to speak to being able to grasp onto a language and speak so eloquently? Feral children cant do it. They never have been able to because its imprinted in our shared biology.

Maybe I'm wrong and it was a miracle like the movie said, but it just seems like nonsense. She must have been only partially deafblind and it got worse as she reach puberty.
post 1611256021 07-21-2020, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By deaglebrah⏩
In her biography, it says she was taught kitchen and house duties by her maid, such as kneading dough, but that she didnt think Helen would ever be able to speak. How do you go from not being able to speak to being able to grasp onto a language and speak so eloquently? Feral children cant do it. They never have been able to because its imprinted in our shared biology.
Maybe there was some socialization and communication going on if she was being brought around the house to do chores in a collaborative manner?
post 1611256451 07-21-2020, 12:38 PM
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That's interesting OP. Now that I think about it, have you ever seen a picture of Helen Keller's dad?

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post 1611257811 07-21-2020, 12:54 PM
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How the fuk is someone who never worked a day in their life gonna promote socialism, especially since they were taken care of their whole life?


....oh wait
post 1611258521 07-21-2020, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Again, with conditioning/reinforcement, every time she made a sound that was correct, she would be rewarded. This eventually leads to growth. I'm not going to type out full chapters from Learning Theories and Psychology courses on BB.com, but this is not unthinkable stuff for people who understand learning theories.
yes, as easy as getting a dog to drool at the sound of a bell...she was just conditioned into being an author and eloquent speaker despite not seeing or hearing

...by the age of 11.

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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
If you haven't learned to speak by 5 or 6 years old you never will and can't be taught anything above a very basic level. Here is a source for thathttps://mg.co.za/article/1997-11-21-...fe-as-a-human/
This

Look at Ray in this video. Only way he talks is by barking.

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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
She was deaf and blind, brah, not retarded.
Srs??......she supports socialism????
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Srs??......she supports socialism????
Not just a socialist. "She" supported every big progressive platform of her day and even supported Eugene Dobbs for President every time he ran. Her handlers also just happened to be avowed socialists as well. What a coincidence don't you think?
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post 1611262821 07-21-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Not just a socialist. "She" supported every big progressive platform of her day and even supported Eugene Dobbs for President every time he ran. Her handlers also just happened to be avowed socialists as well.What a coincidence don't you think?
well she was a brilliant mind, it coulda gone either way.

In her darkness she had more brain power than even those who could see.
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I admit I didn’t know any of these other circumstances surrounding her life when I made my posts. All I knew was what I remembered being told as a kid, that she was born blind and deaf, and was eventually taught how to read and write a high level.

My posts were essentially just responding to what I thought was the notion that there’s no way to teach language skills to someone who is blind and deaf.

After reading TBO’s posts, maybe there is something more to her story than was recorded.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I admit I didn’t know any of these other circumstances surrounding her life when I made my posts. All I knew was what I remembered being told as a kid, that she was born blind and deaf, and was eventually taught how to read and write a high level.

My posts were essentially just responding to what I thought was the notion that there’s no way to teach language skills to someone who is blind and deaf.

After reading TBO’s posts, maybe there is something more to that story.
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A lot of things from that time do not add up.
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She wasn't born blind and deaf, I think that's critical because she was just old enough (almost two) to see the world and somewhat grasp language. She learned through braille. She must have been smart. The "she lived in the dark" was more a metaphor, she was still interacting with people. Now obviously all that said, it's very obvious Anne Sullivan (and actually her extreme leftist husband) shaped Keller's world view.
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theres a crazy story about how helen keller broke her arm




she tried to read a stop sign doing 40
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The big question, And most questionable to me, is that she was engaged to a man by the name of Peter ***an, But she somehow left him, In the middle of the night, with her bags packed.

Ignoring the fact that a deaf blind woman will even leave her man, with packed bags in the middle of the night.

How would she even know what an engagement was, or how to give a dome job, or even what a meat thermometer was for that matter?
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
I admit I didn’t know any of these other circumstances surrounding her life when I made my posts. All I knew was what I remembered being told as a kid, that she was born blind and deaf, and was eventually taught how to read and write a high level.

My posts were essentially just responding to what I thought was the notion that there’s no way to teach language skills to someone who is blind and deaf.

After reading TBO’s posts, maybe there is something more to her story than was recorded.
It's all good brah. The realization of what really happened with Helen Keller was pretty tough for me to accept at first. I believe in God and I believe miracles can and do happen and for this to have happened in my home state is something I really wanted to believe in but knowing all I do now I just can't

I grew up in Alabama, where she is from, so I heard the story of Hellen Keller my whole life. The first time I ever questioned it was when I stumbled on an article about language development and feral children. The deeper you dig into this one the stranger it gets. The book she supposedly wrote at 11, the Frost King, was plagiarized from another story called the Frost Fairies that Keller had never read but her teacher had.
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele⏩
Same thing with Stephen Hawking.
Yeah this is a really good one, people can't catch on to it. He's a fraud, or worse, he was controlled to make the narrative of space and basically degrade God. Funny how he died on March.14 = 3.14 pie, a final nod to the hoax of Hawking for those in the know. No way he just happened to die on 3.14, also he's the only man ever to live with ALS for like 40 years, but never told anyone his magic cure. He's also the only person to have that speaking technology he used, how did it work? It's explained he made the machine talk by using muscles in his cheek. Think about that for a minute, that's ridiculous. He was having fluent conversations on live TV, it was scripted for sure. Of course, nobody else in the world is privy to that technology that cannot speak due to paralysis or whatever, only he is able to use this magical talking mechanism that uses technology that is never fully explained or even logical

Also yeah, Stevie Wonder isn't blind I believe that one
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Its true brah. There was also a guy that could walk on water and turn water into wine, look it up.
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I think you can't fathom the possibility someone can be that intelligent. Terry Tao mastered calculus at age 7. AGE 7. Some people are just smarter than you.
Originally Posted By trufflepigg⏩
Yeah this is a really good one, people can't catch on to it. He's a fraud, or worse, he was controlled to make the narrative of space and basically degrade God. Funny how he died on March.14 = 3.14 pie, a final nod to the hoax of Hawking for those in the know. No way he just happened to die on 3.14, also he's the only man ever to live with ALS for like 40 years, but never told anyone his magic cure. He's also the only person to have that speaking technology he used, how did it work? It's explained he made the machine talk by using muscles in his cheek. Think about that for a minute, that's ridiculous. He was having fluent conversations on live TV, it was scripted for sure. Of course, nobody else in the world is privy to that technology that cannot speak due to paralysis or whatever, only he is able to use this magical talking mechanism that uses technology that is never fully explained or even logical

Also yeah, Stevie Wonder isn't blind I believe that one
It's incredible you people are so stupid that you can't believe there are others not as stupid as you are out there.
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