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post 1612314111 08-01-2020, 07:54 PM
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When america willingly admits its numerous historical wrongdoings and fully atones for it












i.e. never.
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When the natives can overpower the us military. History belongs to the winners friend.
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Originally Posted By sf813
Lol at this brainwashed ******* regurgitating whitewashed history he learned from his white teachers

What part of doing sneaky chit like decepting Natives under fake peace talks to capture and murder them was a hand shake deal?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osceola
Just lol at calling others ignorant while posting a Wikipedia link to support your asinine claims. You're a phucking dipchit go suck your daddies left testicle *******.
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lol'd hard. humans have been nomadic forever. meaning almost every piece of land has been taken over by humans

wonder why you have a specific focus
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they did already California aka Aztlan , arizona and texas
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Okay it’s “stealing” but it’s still how land has always been settled going back to the early days of human settlements.

There was an archaeological finding of a ~10,000 year old battle in middle Europe because one tribe of people from the north wanted the more fertile land near running water... should modern day Germans leave their country because their ancestors “stole” that land?
See how stupid this line of thinking is?
If the natives want their land back they need to do what every other group of people has done to get their land back... fight for it. Good luck to them with that lmao. Maybe they can pray to the bear god.
All you are doing, is incriminating yourself even more. Wars are fought for so many reasons IE civil war where the US fought to abolish slavery. However, your line of thinking is that war includes fighting for claimed territory. No, thats called stealing, on a massive scale. Basically, youre killing others for their goods or taking their goods.Thats a universal no no.And it doesn't matter what timeline you are in when this happens. Because of what you did back in time, is how you got to where you are today. The US/Brits are only as powerful as they are because they mined the stolen land for goods and resources for over 200 years.

If that group of people needed fertile land near running water, they have to work with whoever runs that land. You can't just kill them and take the land. Thats not how things work. Word gets around to other nations that a certain group of people are savages. That is how groups of armies like the United Nations come about(that said, the US will be kicked out soon, lmao)
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always LOL @ the retards here who spraypaint "stolen land" at the protests and I'm just like okay what exactly is stopping you from self-deporting then? You live here too *******.
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Originally Posted By adamsz
always LOL @ the retards here who spraypaint "stolen land" at the protests and I'm just like okay what exactly is stopping you from self-deporting then? You live here too *******.
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Natives (Saying this as a Tribal Citizen) were conquered. The end. The US should have also conquered everything else north of Columbia while they were at it. Europeans have also been here for a couple thousand years and probably much longer and had they never came America would still be in the stone age.
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Originally Posted By BigNik78
Natives (Saying this as a Tribal Citizen) were conquered. The end. The US should have also conquered everything else north of Columbia while they were at it. Europeans have also been here for a couple thousand years and probably much longer and had they never came America would still be in the stone age.
Again, you're incriminating yourself. Gtfoutta here with that "conquer" bullchit. Its called stealing and pillaging.

Or maybe let someone waltz into your house, take everything and then claim that you've been "conquered". Youre a *******, you know that?
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
Again, you're incriminating yourself. Gtfoutta here with that "conquer" bullchit. Its called stealing and pillaging.

Or maybe let someone waltz into your house, take everything and then claim that you've been "conquered". Youre a *******, you know that?
almost the entire history of human migration through the world is one of conquer.
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So this is just your whole thing now? Like the only purpose to misc?
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
So this is just your whole thing now? Like the only purpose to misc?
lmao no. Ill get bored of it soon and find a new subject.
Originally Posted By adamsz
almost the entire history of human migration through the world is one of conquer.
I disagree. Movies make it seem like it was. But its actually not the case at all.
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Originally Posted By d0pedup
prolly never

dem indians THRIVE on gubmit handouts.... they cry and cry and cry... you took our land.. our way of life... and we give em so much... tax free... free schooling... give them "free" money just for being... so many apologies... yet they still want more. unbelievable...

yet if we interfere with them abusing their money (chiefs have 4 car garages and all the newest tech, yet their people living in crack shacks...) they say no way and go back to crying for more money.
A red with a good post. Not sure what to do here.

If libs want to know what socialisim looks like in the US, look no further than our reservations. Given everything from free healthcare to college and yet some of the poorest, violent, unemployed, drug infested places in the country.
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g
A red with a good post. Not sure what to do here.
Rep him. Do you not rep good posts because the poster is red? Don’t be stingy mang.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
They’ll give it back when the natives take it back.


That’s how land has been settled throughout human history. To the victor belong the spoils..


If you have a problem with that then take it up with natural selection and/or god for making humans this way.
And which tribes to award the land too? Who was the first? Tribes were constantly at war taking land from each other.

We just did what they were already doing we just did it better.

Suck it ******* OP
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Natives weren't a unified force. They inhabited a vast land and were tribalistic like any other human groups and fought over that vast land. Other people came to the country and did the same. The land was settled, human disputes occurred like they have throughout history, and a country was founded. That's literally it.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
Again, you're incriminating yourself. Gtfoutta here with that "conquer" bullchit. Its called stealing and pillaging.

Or maybe let someone waltz into your house, take everything and then claim that you've been "conquered". Youre a *******, you know that?
Try it. You win and it's yours until whoever else conquers it from you. You lose and I have some bad news for you.
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Originally Posted By BigNik78
Try it. You win and it's yours until whoever else conquers it from you. You lose and I have some bad news for you.
yourre dumb.
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I’m curious why everyone’s goto response is to simply acknowledge how conquering was done back then, in a seeming “that was the way it was so it is not a problem at all” type mentality.

Obviously OPs suggestion of “giving it back” is absurd, and the whole “you are incriminating yourself” is cringe AF.

I’m curious however, if you guys understand that despite “that is how it was done” and the results of it, it was an absolutely despicable series of events and that type of human behavior should be perceived only as terrible and shameful.

I sincerely believe we can be in love with our country, and acknowledge the flaws or “dark secrets of our past” (of which there are many). In fact, I would suggest failing to acknowledge our historical flaws (for whatever reason), prevents us from wholly loving our country. I don’t mean a self loathing type of “we should just give it back and rot”. More like, hey let’s not ever do this terrible thing again, or tolerate anyone doing it. We are better than that. We did benefit from it, but we should not celebrate it.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
I’m curious why everyone’s goto response is to simply acknowledge how conquering was done back then, in a seeming “that was the way it is so it is not a problem at all” type mentality.

Obviously OPs suggestion of “giving it back” is absurd, and the whole “you are incriminating yourself” is cringe AF.

I’m curious however, if you guys understand that despite “that is how it was done” and the results of it, it was an absolutely despicable series of events and that type of human behavior should be perceived only as terrible and shameful.
Yes, it was awful. Nobody's disputing that. There is a future to be had and we're all Americans in this century. You're not enlightening anyone on anything they didn't already know.
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Originally Posted By BigNik78
Yes, it was awful. Nobody's disputing that. There is a future to be had and we're all Americans in this century. You're not enlightening anyone on anything they didn't already know.
I get that I’m not. I just feel this is an important part of this conversation.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
maybe when the natives take it back and put Americans on reservations by force, so never.
They mostly vote Democrat, so if you believe that liberalism is killing America, I guess they are taking the slow route.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
I’m curious why everyone’s goto response is to simply acknowledge how conquering was done back then, in a seeming “that was the way it was so it is not a problem at all” type mentality.

Obviously OPs suggestion of “giving it back” is absurd, and the whole “you are incriminating yourself” is cringe AF.

I’m curious however, if you guys understand that despite “that is how it was done” and the results of it, it was an absolutely despicable series of events and that type of human behavior should be perceived only as terrible and shameful.
it's because they try to confine it to a certain demographic. their (people like op) point is that whites (europeans in op's example) did it to indians

they are not saying the act is despicable or that the act itself is unjust. i would agree with that, though it may be necessary sometimes. however, they (people like op), are saying that whites did the atrocities to X and deserve retribution

so the counter to that is that every color has had injustices against them
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet
I’m curious why everyone’s goto response is to simply acknowledge how conquering was done back then, in a seeming “that was the way it was so it is not a problem at all” type mentality.

Obviously OPs suggestion of “giving it back” is absurd, and the whole “you are incriminating yourself” is cringe AF.

I’m curious however, if you guys understand that despite “that is how it was done” and the results of it, it was an absolutely despicable series of events and that type of human behavior should be perceived only as terrible and shameful.

I sincerely believe we can be in love with our country, and acknowledge the flaws or “dark secrets of our past” (of which there are many). In fact, I would suggest failing to acknowledge our historical flaws (for whatever reason), prevents us from wholly loving our country. I don’t mean a self loathing type of “we should just give it back and rot”. More like, hey let’s not ever do this terrible thing again, or tolerate anyone doing it. We are better than that. We did benefit from it, but we should not celebrate it.
Absolutely not. You are talking to a 2 star general here. I am not dumb.

The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.

In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
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So The Land of Opportunity has now changed to The Land Where I Whine and B1tch About Something That Didnt Impact Me & I Blame My Failures On That.

How sad.

I want a handout as my great, great, great, great, great ancestors may or may not have been slaves or mistreated.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
So when is China going to leave Taiwan, Tibet and Hong Kong alone?
Never will.. Tibet was a strategic takeover. HK was on lease. Taiwan was part of China and they will eventually take it back.. After Russia took Crimea without reprecussion China took the South China Sea.

People will take whatever they have the power to.
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