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post 1615031621 08-29-2020, 08:01 PM
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If this thing was spreading at its current rate and was taking out young, healthy people, we would be way beyond lockdowns, masking, and worrying about economic damage. That would legit be some apocalyptic chit, the world as we know it would cease to exist.
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Ya think?

USA, a first world country, has higher per capita deaths than most third world countries. All Trumps fault. Are people that stupid to think that Canada is doing that much better of a job collectively? No, we just count differently.

Anyone who thinks these numbers are real are fuking retarded.

In b4 they are actually undercounted, durr.
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Originally Posted By inspectionstare⏩
What it means is nearly all deaths happened to people who were slated to die soon anyhow. What it also means is shutting down the whole world over this minuscule **** is the most low iq response in human history.

Honk ****ing honk.
No, its actually worse than that.

Anyone who dies with covid, is recorded as a covid death.

George Floyd was recorded as a Covid death.
post 1615032021 08-29-2020, 08:07 PM
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We're focusing on the peaceful protests burning down cities and mugging old white ladies. We can return to covid season next month
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post 1615032571 08-29-2020, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Frank
No, its actually worse than that.

Anyone who dies with covid, is recorded as a covid death.

George Floyd was recorded as a Covid death.
No they aren’t and no he wasn’t dude. If every death with a COVID diagnosis was counted as a COVID death, we wouldn’t see this heavy skewing towards the elderly and people with comorbidities

Post up a credible source
post 1615032711 08-29-2020, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ChaliHo⏩
I wouldn't say it isn't that serious because obviously its killing people. But what it does is it activates and worsens already preexisting illnesses so thats the seriousness. These people dying would normally survive a cold or flu, but Covid does something to them that causes severe symptoms.

What they do know is that Memory T Cells help fight Covid, thats why many healthy people are able to fight the virus with little to mild symptoms. So they believe those dying or severe their body doesn't produce enough T cells and their immune system is very weak. Its why they are saying to get a lot of Vitamin D and B vitamins in mainly through a well balanced diet and avoid high sugar.

Those with weak immune systems suffer, so hopefully America will now take their health and diet serious we should see less obese people, Covid has claimed many obese people with poor health.

Strengthen the immune system so the T cells stay strong ready to fight.
You can believe that all you want, but you have absolutely no way of backing that up.

There’s no way you can say with any certainty these people on thin ice wouldn’t have been triggered by something else like a cold or the flu.

If you’re right, we should see the total deaths for the world significantly above the projected total to begin the year (theres yearly projections based on trends that tend to hold relatively accurate.... Covid was certainly not built in to the original estimate since this is projected well beforehand so we’ll get to test your theory, I’m banking your wrong though)
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post 1615032851 08-29-2020, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
****ing bb com giving me errors

Test post
Fukn hate that and only happens when trying to type a big reply while quoting another post
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How many deaths do you think are HIV only? How many deaths do you think are influenza only? These pathogens cause death mostly because they make the host vulnerable to secondary co-infections, often bacterial.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
No they aren’t and no he wasn’t dude. If every death with a COVID diagnosis was counted as a COVID death, we wouldn’t see this heavy skewing towards the elderly and people with comorbidities

Post up a credible source
Dr. Birx went on the record saying exactly this

https://youtu.be/GGHp1GdOD4k

There is a longer clip somewhere, video is harder to find than it was a month or 2 ago.
post 1615033731 08-29-2020, 08:34 PM
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COVID genuinely seems to be disappearing as he said it would. he also said the % of COVID deaths would be very low and it seems over the long term that is turning out to be true.
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Originally Posted By Frank
Dr. Birx went on the record saying exactly this

https://youtu.be/GGHp1GdOD4k

There is a longer clip somewhere, video is harder to find than it was a month or 2 ago.
That's not what she's saying at all. She's saying that if the virus exacerbates a pre-existing condition and it results in your death, it's counted as a COVID-19 death. And it should, we have no idea how much longer each individual person would have lived with these conditions and contributed to society if they hadn't contracted COVID-19.

Any number of diseases do similar things, they amplify other degenerative conditions. AIDS is a good example: people don't directly die from AIDS, they die from the proliferation of infections facilitated by the disease. If someone has high blood pressure or heart disease and COVID-19 causes their deterioration and death, it should be a COVID-19 death.

George Floyd's cause of death was cardiac arrest and his death was ruled a homicide. He wasn't murdered with COVID-19.

People need to stop trynna be armchair medical examiners
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
That is like the worst analogy ever

It’s more like a boat with multiple patched up holes in the middle of the ocean. Any of the holes could give way at any minute. One finally does and you blame that one particular hole when the reality is all of those patched holes were about to cave.

Simple matter of the fact is one hole happened to beat the rest to the punch.

Ok ok... maybe these people would have lived an extra week or maybe a month. Maybe even 3 months.

But the truth is most were going down. Just like that patched up boat.

So blame the one hole if you want. But if you had covered that one hole with something super strong one of the other holes would have caved anyway.

The boat was going down at some point relatively soon


That’s the better analogy.




By the way I don’t even see the logic of your analogy by the way. Wtf you won because you lost by 0.5 seconds?? Legit not even sort of understanding that analogy.

I can give you another one if you don’t like the boat one.

Pretend a person gets shot 7 times with no one to call for rescue. One of those shots is a direct bullet to the brain killing the person instantly.

Of the remaining 6 one punctures a lung that causes the lung to pool with blood and eventually kill the person from lack of oxygen.

You have the choice to shut down the entire economy for 2020 if it means you get to block the one bullet to the brain (the direct kill).

The other 6 bullets will stand regardless of your choice to block the direct kill bullet.

So... do you buy the poor bastard a likely very brief amount of extra time at the expense of everyone else?


That’s one hell of a sacrifice and you’re a better man than I if you’re willing to assume the extra suffering from shutting things down to block that direct kill bullet and buy him a few more breaths of life.
more simple analogy is:
you are climbing, hanging by a chitty rope that just barely has enough threads to support you hanging still, now a gust of wind comes by and your rope breaks, you fall and die. what caused the death, the chitty rope or the wind?
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
No they aren’t and no he wasn’t dude. If every death with a COVID diagnosis was counted as a COVID death, we wouldn’t see this heavy skewing towards the elderly and people with comorbidities

Post up a credible source


Credible enough for you?
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[QUOTE=Peacening post_id=1615034901][YouTube]GGHp1GdOD4k

Credible enough for you?[/QUOTE]She's not saying that every single death with a COVID-19 diagnosis is counted, she's saying exactly what everyone already knows: if COVID-19 exacerbates a pre-existing condition and causes death, it's counted. And it sounds like many other countries aren't counting them that way, which is disingenuous on their part.
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Now eliminate the murders in ny mass and nj where the governors of those three states basically killed elderly people in nursing homes by sticking corona infected people in there and tell me how really dangerous all this really is.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
You can believe that all you want, but you have absolutely no way of backing that up.

There’s no way you can say with any certainty these people on thin ice wouldn’t have been triggered by something else like a cold or the flu.

If you’re right, we should see the total deaths for the world significantly above the projected total to begin the year (theres yearly projections based on trends that tend to hold relatively accurate.... Covid was certainly not built in to the original estimate since this is projected well beforehand so we’ll get to test your theory, I’m banking your wrong though)
Im going off what family members have said of the loved ones who passed they said they have gotten flus or colds before and survived them with no issue but covid killed them, what I also noticed in common is the people dying are immune compromised elderly who never see sunlight and rarely exercise in resting homes, overweight obese people or those with underlying health conditions. The virus doesnt seem to kill those elderly who are active and healthy who dont stay indoors all day, example Casinos, how come there are no spikes in Casinos those places are jam packed with old people in their 70s to 80s.

Im reading the scientists, not some random bodybuilding.com guy who thinks its a hoax, they said the reason many people are asymptomatic is because they have memory T cells that fight it from coming into contact with a common cold strain of coronavirus in the past, they are hoping that is the case than that means they would be immune for life or get mild symptoms as long as they have a strong immune system.

Antibodies last only so long its why people can get colds and flus multiple times, the memory t cells stay with your forever as long as you hae a strong immune system that produces them, people with HIV tend to have low t cell count
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
How many deaths do you think are HIV only? How many deaths do you think are influenza only? These pathogens cause death mostly because they make the host vulnerable to secondary co-infections, often bacterial.
Ok, what do you think contributed the most to someones death. A case of the sniffles or ****ing CANCER HEART DISEASE OR DIABETES
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I dont even pretend anymore that the lockdowns and bull**** were anything other than an attempt to ruin the Trump economy. Thats ALL they've ever been imo



Dem politicians should be tarred and feathered.
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Its not even close to the flu. More like allergies.
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6% had no comorbities and only 10% of deaths were under age 60. There's probably some over lap there but you can see that virtually no one is dying from COVID19 under the age of 60 when otherwise healthy.

Yes, it's a hoax, scam, political tool.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
She's not saying that every single death with a COVID-19 diagnosis is counted, she's saying exactly what everyone already knows: if COVID-19 exacerbates a pre-existing condition and causes death, it's counted. And it sounds like many other countries aren't counting them that way, which is disingenuous on their part.
She said exactly that. She said that they are counting deaths with covid as deaths of Covid.
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Just imagine if Covid had a 100% chance of causing death after 6 months of getting it.
Your country would be wiped out OP because its full of idiots like you who have no sense of future consequences.

You are literally happy to just do a live experiment on your entire country and let everyone get an unknown virus.

Thank god it isn't that bad, but that is besides the point.. because from the get go you would have opposed lockdown.

Think about that (if you can manage it)
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Are we still bitching about this?

Let me just copy and paste what I wrote in an older thread;
You said it better than i could.
They would NOT have died so FKN soon had it not been due to Covid..................................... but they would have died in time(years) from other diseases.


"Death certificates always list the underlying cause of death as the primary cause of death.
This isn't some new procedure to make trump look bad, its been like this for as long as we've kept death certificates.
Moreover, If we're going to go by the logic that heart attacks brought on by Covid aren't Covid deaths, then noone has never died of a disease like cancer.
They've instead all died from heart attacks and strokes and organ failure.
If someone dies of a heart attack brought on by covid, then they died from covid because they otherwise would not have died."
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
She's not saying that every single death with a COVID-19 diagnosis is counted, she's saying exactly what everyone already knows: if COVID-19 exacerbates a pre-existing condition and causes death, it's counted. And it sounds like many other countries aren't counting them that way, which is disingenuous on their part.
You retard canadacuck, in America, states have been counting every single death as covid19 death with a covid19 diagnosis.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
That is like the worst analogy ever

It’s more like a boat with multiple patched up holes in the middle of the ocean. Any of the holes could give way at any minute. One finally does and you blame that one particular hole when the reality is all of those patched holes were about to cave.
That's a fallacious analogy too. All those patched holes were not about to cave. One was about to, and it did. Those other patched holes have absolutely nothing to do with the one that failed.

A better analogy would be saying, you have a patched hole. You ram that patched hole into a rock and it gives away and the boat sinks. Was it the patched hole that sunk the boat, or the rock? Without the rock, the patch would not have been destroyed. If that rock hit anywhere else on the boat, it would have made a new hole.

A number of people with preexisting symptoms who have died from covid-19 related complications could have definitely survived. Replaced covid-19 with the rock from above, and heart condition with the hole from above.
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Half the country support the pc agenda for fear of being ostricized. Most people are cucks/sheep and don't have enough common sense to analyze facts.

Doesn't matter If it's Blm, mask wearing, global warming, etc. Half the country will automatically support what ever the pc police tell them to
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
HIV doesn't kill you, moron. It reks your immune system so other chit can kill you.

If someone with HIV contracts Kung Flu and they croak, what caused it?
That’s the point you dimwit. It’s called being an essential cause. Feel like slapping you people across the face with a textbook.
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
Ok, what do you think contributed the most to someones death. A case of the sniffles or ****ing CANCER HEART DISEASE OR DIABETES
It’s not about what mostly killed them. It’s about would they have died otherwise, I.e an essential cause of death. And seeing that we have 200k excess deaths, that’s a pretty easy question to answer.

Brb 150k more pneumonia deaths than last year. But it’s actually not the covid!!
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
It’s not about what mostly killed them. It’s about would they have died otherwise, I.e an essential cause of death. And seeing that we have 200k excess deaths, that’s a pretty easy question to answer.

Brb 150k more pneumonia deaths than last year. But it’s actually not the covid!!
Explain why a motorcycle death was listed as covid19 death in Florida.. Ill wait
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Originally Posted By Sterilite⏩
Explain why a motorcycle death was listed as covid19 death in Florida.. Ill wait
No idea. Don’t care. Could be a mistake. Could be intentional misclassification. I’m sure you’re trying to make a point but it’s not a good one.
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