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post 1615344041 09-02-2020, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Jadedfadedisbae⏩
I graduated form their flagship, Berkeley, and didn't take either of those because I was a transfer. I don't even know what those tests look like. I graduated with a 3.7 from Berkeley, an identical GPA to the one I had in community college.It really isn't necessary and probably does disadvantage those who don't have the economic resources to train for those tests.

I am more of a centrist than left leaning, so I don't even have a bias here. In fact, I hated my experience at Berkeley.
Every library everywhere has practice SAT books and study guides. That is how i studied. I didnt pay anything to prepare. These people saying no resources or unfair are just looking for excuses. They see a difference in test results in races and backfill the reason with unproven ideas and assumptions that fit their ideology.

You have BLM openly advocating against the nuclear family on their website, so of course their kind arent going to say well if the student had two parents that took enough interest in it and drove their child to the library so they could get free SAT study guides maybe they would do better.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
College degrees are just becoming more worthless every year. Get into some kind of skillset profession kids.
College is only for partying and networking. You can do the learning for most subjects far more efficiently through books and online.

The universities and especially the professors don't care if you learn.
post 1615347531 09-02-2020, 06:29 AM
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I don't know about the low income part. I came from a humble family and for SAT practice, I used to go to the local library, take one of the old SAT textbooks with practice exams and study from it. It didn't cost me a dime. You just need the will and determination to study. Today, kids can easily access so many resources online for practice. There's really no excuse to be honest.
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post 1615350851 09-02-2020, 07:17 AM
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At this point, colleges like UC are just adult daycare.

They're farming the education loan system for profit. I know they're a public school, but someone is getting paid.

Poor people are at best ignorant by their description, and will take out ridiculous loans to go to school.
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Pretty soon, this is all they will be teaching in those liberal universities



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I got an 800 on the math SAT the first time taking it and I had stayed up until 2 am the night before smoking pot drinking beer and actually smoking opium for the first time ever. I remember walking into the building thinking damn I still feel quite buzzed. Then I signed up to take the physics I and ii sat 2s cus in ap physics I would mostly just read books then ace the tests I checked in for the sat down they passed out the test I skimmed through it was like yeah Iโ€™ve never seen any of this **** before taking this will only hurt so I got up left and had a fun weekend of probably drinking adventuring and chasing slots
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you have to be TRYING to make 20k a year or less, jfc
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Explain to me how a ****ing judge gets to make this decision...you can argue the merits of the SAT/ACT for college admissions all you want, but a JUDGE deciding this? Californians, you no longer have any rights.
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩
Explain to me how a ****ing judge gets to make this decision...you can argue the merits of the SAT/ACT for college admissions all you want, but a JUDGE deciding this? Californians, you no longer have any rights.
Damn that's a salient point. Really the more important take away. The judge's logic of "admit people regardless of tested merit" makes no sense because the same state system that tested them previously will be what decides whether or not they get a degree in college. Why stop at admissions? Why not just hand them a degree after they pay their "tuition?"

In a legal context, it makes no fukking sense.
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post 1615352891 09-02-2020, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Damn that's a salient point. Really the more important take away. The judge's logic of "admit people regardless of tested merit" makes no sense because the same state system that tested them previously will be what decides whether or not they get a degree in college. Why stop at admissions? Why not just hand them a degree after they pay their "tuition?"

In a legal context, it makes no fukking sense.
Why even stop at academics? We could start adjusting times in track and field. Some people are naturally gifted at running and dont have to work as hard. If you arent genetically or environmentally gifted we can take time off your laps so things are more "fair".
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So the entire country will know that kids graduating from colleges in CA are sub-tier.

So pretty much the way the misc thinks of California.
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So these leftists think that since higher income families do well on these tests, it proves that it's unfair to gauge competence with them.

When in reality, people who are smart make more money (overall), and pass on their genetics to their children. Who then do well on said SAT/IQ test (which is basically what standardized tests are).

They will never be able to admit that though.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
So what, college cost money, everything in life costs money, if you make more money you live a better life its absurd to try to remove all advantages of money, that is the idea of the communist, to take away all advantages and incentives to pursue wealth. The test is only $65, hell it was over 100 back in the day. I think a 17-18 year old could get a part time job and afford $65 if it was important to them. Most of these "poor" kids have shoes that cost more.
ay brah dont get me saying i understand why it was stricken down with me agreeing

you gotta look at things the way courts have to, in that context it makes perfect sense why it was seen as disadvantage for poorer students
Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
So these leftists think that since higher income families do well on these tests, it proves that it's unfair to gauge competence with them.

When in reality, people who are smart make more money (overall), and pass on their genetics to their children. Who then do well on said SAT/IQ test (which is basically what standardized tests are).

They will never be able to admit that though.
well yeah thats why the left screams anyone can be a CEO and that high level positions in companies mean nothing. "its all luck and who you know" is the most cope mindset people have ingrained in themselves its truly depressing. They truly believe everyone is equally as smart and that its equally as hard to become an English major as it is a Bio mechanical engineer... I'll tell you right now every single Entrepreneur billionaire out there is so much smarter than I am its disgusting to think of the disparity. People on the left will never admit that, smarter people tend to choose careers that end up making more money and the smartest out of those advance the farthest.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
โ€œWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness if your parents can afford your leg upโ€
Oh okay BRB let's ban prestigious private schools too. Eff anyone that incentives hard work. Also, 100% certain the Rights don't include indiscriminate education opportunities ya fukin ape.
Originally Posted By Jadedfadedisbae⏩
I ... didn't take either of those because I was a transfer. I don't even know what those tests look like. ... It really isn't necessary and probably does disadvantage those who don't have the economic resources to train for those tests.
Nice blind presumptions. As someone who has, they are important. It helps identify your knowledge and commitment at that point. It allows schools to equally assess a student's capability. The tests only cover mandated requirements of grade schools - material every student should know.

I was flaky in school (didn't take it super seriously), paid close enough attention to understand most/all concepts, employed no additional resources outside of school to prepare for my SAT, and yet still did very well. I'm 100% certain that any kid that even tries remotely hard will have success. The problem with this terrible study (very limited info) is that they fail to identify that there may be a causation between low income and lack of dedication to education.

I could agree that higher income may provide more opportunity to 3rd party assistance, but there are a ton of education resources out there for free/cheap.
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
tbh tho its not surprising that it got stricken down because the more times you take it the higher your score

that **** costs around $100 a pop i knew kids that took it like 6 times

Make it free or cap the amount of times kids can take it, boom.
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Im with the cuckservatives on this one. Doesn't make sense to me how you can admit someone over another when their ACT score is clearly lower, regardless of income level.

Im also not sure why ACT scores are used to determine ones level of eligibility for admission.

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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
That's a shame. I attended a UC myself. It's arguably the best and most competitive public university system in the country if not the world. This will only dumb down the entire system if GPA is the only academic criteria they have to go by. As we know getting an A at one school might not as hard as getting a B- at another school depending on demographics and such at that school.
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Originally Posted By ShakeBrah⏩
the fuk? no chit sherlock. You improve at most things in life the more you attempt them. BRB let's deincentivize improving yourself.
and here's how they'd spin your point

when only the rich kid can afford to practice who is going to end up doing better?
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Hmm I wonder why they're doing that......

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Originally Posted By ectosthetic⏩
Hmm I wonder why they're doing that......

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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
and here's how they'd spin your point

when only the rich kid can afford to practice who is going to end up doing better?
Except thatโ€™s not the case. Libraries are free. School books are free. Gtfo with fantasy world, retard.
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