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post 1615879511 09-07-2020, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy
This was the case for me. When I was at my lowest point I didn't care what anyone thought of me. I wished to go to bed and never wake up. I did however think about the sadness my parents would have to face if they found my dead body, but never did I think or care about being pitied for. In my case I wished I never existed.
a certain string of behaviors and mental thoughts led you to that point

this kind of stuff wasn't a problem 100 years ago, so it seems our normal string of behaviors and mental thoughts was altered at some point since then, no?
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post 1615880181 09-07-2020, 11:15 PM
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post 1615880381 09-07-2020, 11:17 PM
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If you get to that point I think ur gonna do it anyway no matter what
post 1615880551 09-07-2020, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted By bannedjpg
OK well pretending to care about each other (in America 2020 lol) and not caring is more sinister than being truthful and saying "deal with it yourself" or "that's not normal deal with it yourself"

Having a culture where people pretend to GAF about each others mental well being when they 100% do not is more sinister than being upfront that people need to be responsible for themselves

Maybe that's what all this SJW propaganda chit is being pushed for. So that people soften up and hear about things like "microagressions" or something and think wow people care about my mental well-being when in fact nobody gives a chit and you're digging yourself a hole by thinking that other people have your best intentions out for you

But I'm just vomiting words on my keyboard it's not like it fkin matters
Why do you think people in general don't care/are pretending? Most people don't know how to deal with someone who's mentally ill, and often times give out ignorant answers such as yours (no offense) - which is a large part of why people who commit suicide don't seek help. One of the worst possible things you can say to someone suffering from mental illness is "deal with it" because a large reason why they commit suicide is because THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH IT... and you telling them to do so doesn't magically make them better.

Even if we were to say people are pretending to gaf, that still doesn't negate from the fact that this needs to be studied and understood more and the more people speak out about their issues, the more we can actually point them to their perspective places where they can get help.. rather that be from therapists, psychologists, religion, whatever that gets them out of their funk. That's far better than to simply say "deal with it".
Originally Posted By bannedjpg
a certain string of behaviors and mental thoughts led you to that point

this kind of stuff wasn't a problem 100 years ago, so it seems our normal string of behaviors and mental thoughts was altered at some point since then, no?
Comparing the world 100 years ago vs now isn't a good idea. We now have technology that keeps us up to date on just about everything at our finger tips. More political bullchit, more social issues, more problems in our faces 24/7 and a lot of people can't cope. Relationships are far more difficult to get into than they were before for a lot of people, divorce rates are up, people aren't trusting each other and we're living in constant fear. This is vastly different than 100 years ago.
post 1615880851 09-07-2020, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted By bannedjpg
a certain string of behaviors and mental thoughts led you to that point

this kind of stuff wasn't a problem 100 years ago, so it seems our normal string of behaviors and mental thoughts was altered at some point since then, no?
Says the fuking douchebag who isnt mentally ill. You're just ignorant towards people with mental illness because you don't understand it. I bet you love talking chit over the internet when IRL you wouldnt do jack chit Mr. Keyboard warrior.
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post 1615881161 09-07-2020, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted By TkHomie
Yes, let’s shame people who commit suicide... surely that’ll convince others from committing suicide because they don’t want to be considered weak gay losers by edge lords like ppl itt. Shaming people with severe mental illness just does more good than harm.

Jfl at the logic itt.

Edit: shame*
The basis of your argument, if we can even call it that, relies on equating suicide to "severe mental illness" which I don't agree with. Not all people who commit suicide have clinical mental illness. And that's kind of the point of the OP. I think we're influencing more and more people who DON'T have legitimate mental illness, to commit suicide by almost romanticizing it and lowering the bar for justification by over-sympathizing.
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no it doesnt. i understand and respect someone's decision to 'leave'. It is highly insulting to people who are contemplating it I think. It makes them think they aint **** and that they have incorrect feelings. If you want to prevent, you need empathy and not just gaslight people.

i would never publically sympathise lol. **** public. but privately, i would sympathise for sure
post 1615914861 09-08-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By fcnz32
The basis of your argument, if we can even call it that, relies on equating suicide to "severe mental illness" which I don't agree with. Not all people who commit suicide have clinical mental illness. And that's kind of the point of the OP. I think we're influencing more and more people who DON'T have legitimate mental illness, to commit suicide by almost romanticizing it and lowering the bar for justification by over-sympathizing.
Do you have any studies showing publicly sympathizing those who commit suicide influences "tons" others to commit suicide as well?

For the record, when I read your post, I'm thinking you mean both sympathy and empathy, since both can lead to a "pity party" - with empathy being far worse by your logic.

I mean I'm sure this happens, but I haven't found any body of research that says publicly sympathizing is negative and shaming those who commit suicide is more positive.

I think you're looking at it from a very narrow perspective. These type of measures can also communicate to others that they aren't alone, provide them with information on what to do if you're going through suicidal thoughts, and educate people on how to deal with someone who's going through the waves. This isn't just my speculation though, most of the body of research I've seen shows this to be true. Sure, some people would see this and take advantage over it, but I don't think this is a large body of people nor do I think "tons" of people are going through suicidal thoughts because of it being romanticized. Not showing sympathy/empathy or worse, shaming a small targeted audience could in fact have a negative impact on the vast majority who are actually going through it.

I mean just look at how people are responding ITT. Calling the guy who committed suicide a weak pussy, coward, laughing at him and chit, saying we need to tell people to "just deal with it bro". You think that's actually gonna make the majority of people who commit reach out to others and find help, or isolate them even further and make them want to off themselves?
post 1615915061 09-08-2020, 10:33 AM
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post 1615915551 09-08-2020, 10:39 AM
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You are sympathizing with the victims of Suicide... AKA the loved ones because they lost someone.

Pretty much no one feels empathy for the actual person.
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