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post 1617269841 09-22-2020, 11:01 AM
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Everyone thinks they can predict a crash, but I just don't see a big crash happening

1. The gubmint is not gonna let millions of people get evicted. They'd rather keep printing money and devaluing the dollar

2. Apparently the supply of houses is very low, which makes the demand for houses very high. There can't be a big crash until the supply and demand balance out, which will take a few years at least
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Originally Posted By solidus2k3⏩
lol @ miscers trying to time the market
billion dollar hedge funds barely can
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post 1617271221 09-22-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610⏩
Had plans on accumulating 5 to 10 rental properties over the next 10 years. Then the pandemic hit. Landlords getting boned. People blocking landlords from filing evictions at the courthouse. Screw that.

Then all the usual landlord headaches that occur during normal times. Being a landlord and owning rental properties sounds awful to me now.
the Rona chit is terrible. if you had 5-10 properties you wouldn't run it yourself. you would hire a property management company. You'd also have a contract with a plumbing company act act as they tend to take monthly payments instead of pay per job when you do that.
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If banks and loan companies fail they will be bought out by the bigger ones. These MBS are already being bought by the Fed. The Fed will give $$$ to the banks who will absorb the smaller banks that fail.

Any so-called housing crash is by design and will be scooped up by the big boys and sat on. The Bigs get bigger and the consumer becomes worse off.
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The worst part of it all is the government of Canada has added so many taxes to the cost of building new homes they are priced fairly high. Its kinda phucked. They messed with the market to keep values high so they can get that property tax and building money at the expense of all the citizens.
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lol @ the brah who said commercial real estate
post 1617274851 09-22-2020, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610⏩
Had plans on accumulating 5 to 10 rental properties over the next 10 years. Then the pandemic hit. Landlords getting boned. People blocking landlords from filing evictions at the courthouse. Screw that.

Then all the usual landlord headaches that occur during normal times. Being a landlord and owning rental properties sounds awful to me now.
There's no such thing as easy money. If you wanna be baller making 160k+ a year you need to be willing to put in the work.

There's NEVER a bad time to buy. Buy/hold has been a winning strategy since the inception of capitalism.
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post 1617274951 09-22-2020, 11:48 AM
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Lol the Fed won’t let us experience the free-fall we deserve given current circumstances.

When they have the full ability to just print/add another 0 to solve our problems and the markets support it you know our system is out of CTRL.

When the numbers are this large they don’t even matter lol
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post 1617275851 09-22-2020, 11:56 AM
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TFW everyone talking about fed printing money and “ government won’t let housing fail”. Fed doesn’t print money, if the banks can’t make money on low interest rates they won’t loan money, they don’t loan money supply goes down less people can buy homes. Who’s gonna buy a house when they lose their job and can’t qualify for a loan. Homebuilders are building out the ass to sell at high housing prices that’s why lumber was expensive as balls all summer. Lumber futures are down now because demand is leveling off.
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Originally Posted By Berts⏩
Was expecting Venom as OP

It might happen in some cities and towns but lots of them are immune to a housing collapse like Boise. Already a massive shortage. I'm guessing the cities it could happen to are the liberal cities that are burning to the ground and people are getting the fuk out of there.
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When people are still moving to your city in droves and housing prices have skyrocketed over the last 5-10 years, those prices are never coming down again unless it eventually turns into the new Detroit
Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
Apparently the supply of houses is very low, which makes the demand for houses very high. There can't be a big crash until the supply and demand balance out, which will take a few years at least
That’s a great point too. I am not seeing any houses sit for sale in this market unless they were severely overpriced to begin with
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Originally Posted By 300Lane1⏩
People that own in Tahoe are already filthy rich, so a bubble in the real estate market isn't going to make much of a difference. Areas around Tahoe/Truckee/Soda Springs limit the number of building permits a year so prices are always going up.
Shhh... don't ruin his made up story
post 1617278251 09-22-2020, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
This. Kind of shaking my head at the people who are salivating by the concept of another housing crash. Same people were saying the same chit before 2008, and guess what? They're still tenants, and will continue to be tenants post-rona.
Keep coping boomer. Your net worth is about to be cut down drastically.

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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
The gooberment won't let the house prices drop
This. Just LOL if you think there are going to be "deals" for the general public.

The Fed is loaning unlimited amounts of money to banks for 0% interest, and these banks are loaning the money to investors, who are buying up these homes. They are going absolute ape-chit in my area. Houses are being bought before they even hit the market for pennies on the dollar.

Most sales are not even being reported to REIN, which tells you that investors are cutting deals directly with banks or homeowners.

The greatest theft of all time is happening right under our noses and we're doing chit-all about it.

I think it's part of The Great Reset.

It's not even a conspiracy. It's right out there in the open.

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post 1617278711 09-22-2020, 12:28 PM
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If you arent using a single family home for anything other than to raise a family than you are a ******* and the reason we are in this mess in the first place.
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Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
If you arent using a single family home for anything other than to raise a family than you are a ******* and the reason we are in this mess in the first place.
In my state, that's only a small issue compared to the HUGE issue of Chinese investors buying all the property.

It's the governments fault for allowing this to happen, government choosing money over it's own people. But what's new
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
In my state, that's only a small issue compared to the HUGE issue of Chinese investors buying all the property.

It's the governments fault for allowing this to happen, government choosing money over it's own people. But what's new
Im not disagreeing, single family homes should only be bought and sold by US citizens not corporations, LLCs, "flippers" or foreigners imo.
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Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
Im not disagreeing, single family homes should only be bought and sold by US citizens not corporations, LLCs, "flippers" or foreigners imo.
Just LOL if you think the US government is going to help its people in this situation.

They're 100% bought and paid for by those investors, corporations, and foreigners.
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post 1617279311 09-22-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
Just LOL if you think the US government is going to help its people in this situation.

They're 100% bought and paid for by those investors, corporations, and foreigners.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Bbbbbbbbuuuuuut Trump fights for us!
Look you dumbass. It just doesn't make sense to point fingers at Trump in this case. You are literally displaying TDS, if not trolling.

In my state, it's definitely a case of local politician corruption, they are the ones getting rich from foreign investments, not Trump.
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Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
If you arent using a single family home for anything other than to raise a family than you are a ******* and the reason we are in this mess in the first place.
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Originally Posted By rgnx⏩
Look you dumbass. It just doesn't make sense to point fingers at Trump in this case. You are literally displaying TDS, if not trolling.

In my state, it's definitely a case of local politician corruption, they are the ones getting rich from foreign investments, not Trump.
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im studying until the eventual fall. right now there is a lot of propping up of the system, but those props wont hold forever. and truth be told i dont think the feds plan to hold it up forever.

right now just learning as much as i can so that when the markets head south, im fully armed to dive in intelligently
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Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
If you arent using a single family home for anything other than to raise a family than you are a ******* and the reason we are in this mess in the first place.
You aren't wrong but you have to play the game with the rules as laid out. Currently being the Chad landlord is a winning strategy
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but tons of the landlords are going to get ****ed over because all the ****ty people blew their stimulus unemployment money on wasteful **** instead of paying rent at all and sure they will go to court and evict them and get judgements Eventually... except you cant take SSI SSDI welfare SNAP TANIF money from judgements ... nor can you take cash income... so lots of people are just saying YOLO **** it and landlords are going to get ****ed big time it really sucks for everyone
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Originally Posted By ByAssociation⏩
but tons of the landlords are going to get ****ed over because all the ****ty people blew their stimulus unemployment money on wasteful **** instead of paying rent at all and sure they will go to court and evict them and get judgements Eventually... except you cant take SSI SSDI welfare SNAP TANIF money from judgements ... nor can you take cash income... so lots of people are just saying YOLO **** it and landlords are going to get ****ed big time it really sucks for everyone
Do you think that when the current, largely over leveraged landlords get fukked, a new generation of wanna be landlords will have opportunity to do better? That’s my strategy to be honest
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Originally Posted By arod204⏩
The worst part of it all is the government of Canada has added so many taxes to the cost of building new homes they are priced fairly high. Its kinda phucked. They messed with the market to keep values high so they can get that property tax and building money at the expense of all the citizens.
Its even worse than that, they over-regulate and tax not to generate more money, but to keep the supply artificially low and single family homes out of the reach of regular people. I bet theyre building condos/apartments in cities like crazy huh?

Its a part of the globalists UN Agenda 21, look it up. Prepare to be mind=blown and furious at the same time as you read it and realize theyre balls deep in the rolout of their plan srs.

I know all of the above is true becauseCalifornia is doing the exact same thing. Im watching it irl. Zoning and permits for new single-family homes are a gazillion dollars, but getting approved for a hundred unit complex next to a trolley line is easy as pie :/
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
im studying until the eventual fall. right now there is a lot of propping up of the system, but those props wont hold forever. and truth be told i dont think the feds plan to hold it up forever.
Now this is what gets me. The roots of home overpricing are limitless QE (leads to housing inflation) and foreign investment. People have been saying that QE will endsomeday ever since like 2012 - but will it?

Japan invented QE in the early 90s and has been printing money for literally 30 years since. Their central bank has pumped trillions of dollars (equivalent) into the economy, bought trillions of stocks, they're top-10 stakeholders in literally half the corporations in Japan now, and they are still printing with no end in sight. They're onto multiple generations of QE.

So when the US govt keeps printing through good times and bad alike for 12 years, and JPow says he'll keep printing for the foreseeable future, I think it's more likely that they move onto decades of QE rather than pulling the rug.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
You aren't wrong but you have to play the game with the rules as laid out. Currently being the Chad landlord is a winning strategy
The chad landlord is getting fuarked right now.

I don't think people realize how fuarked this country really is, and what kinds of things are going on.

The wealthy are legit fuarking over everyone.

brb corporate socialism since 2008
lol@people who save money, we'll hold on to long-term low interest rates
lol@stock prices, government buying up the market
lol@house prices, let's introduce infinite QE and lend to investors for nothing
lol@landlords, we'll make laws so they can't evict people
lol@service workercels, stay at home and get used to the government teet
lol@citizencels, we'll let foreigners take your jobs and let foreign investors buy homes for 2x their worth
lol@familycels, we'll let social marxism run rampant

Just in case you haven't figured it out, the government is letting our country rot from the inside out, and a certain subset of people is watching it go up in flames and making extreme amounts of money along the way.
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
The chad landlord is getting fuarked right now.

I don't think people realize how fuarked this country really is, and what kinds of things are going on.

The wealthy are legit fuarking over everyone.

brb corporate socialism since 2008
lol@people who save money, we'll hold on to long-term low interest rates
lol@stock prices, government buying up the market
lol@house prices, let's introduce infinite QE and lend to investors for nothing
lol@landlords, we'll make laws so they can't evict people
lol@service workercels, stay at home and get used to the government teet
lol@citizencels, we'll let foreigners take your jobs and let foreign investors buy homes for 2x their worth
lol@familycels, we'll let social marxism run rampant

Just in case you haven't figured it out, the government is letting our country rot from the inside out, and a certain subset of people is watching it go up in flames and making extreme amounts of money along the way.
Taking cover from this truth bomb being dropped.

The govt's #1 goal seems to be protecting the asset prices of the wealthy. Employment goes down? Fuk you, peasant. S&P 500 goes down?

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Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
Do you think that when the current, largely over leveraged landlords get fukked, a new generation of wanna be landlords will have opportunity to do better? That’s my strategy to be honest
]it isnt really their fault or fair to call them over leveraged. most of them made very safe and smart financial decisions to own other properties and rent them, most of them likely do well with upkeep and repairs etc. even if they are safe, their assets are taking a hit for absolutely no reason. sure, everyone forced out of work is taking a hit, but keep in mind even the worst of the laid off people can still collect weeks of unemployment - some landlords are literally getting NOTHING. people need a place to live though so courts at least in my state are very tenant friendly and tenants can be real pains in the necks and thats before this whole covid bull****. i honestly dont understand the eviction moratorium at all, what the states that are locking down should be doing is covering the cost of living for people theyre forcing not to work and reimbursing those landlords. i dont think its going to get better for any future generation. theres a very good chance the stocks crash depleting anyone who isnt in a money market, lots of people have lost income, incomes are still down assets are down, its a ****ing mess. state overheads are at all time highs. near me there is a massive suburban bubble of everyone fleeing the city but it wont last. its a real **** show.
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