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post 1617858761 09-28-2020, 06:05 PM
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Genetic and commitment.

I have decent genetics for strength but only had the desire to be reasonably strong, I had 0 desire to compete or to push for my absolute limit.

I went for 365 but only made it to 345 before it was becoming way too much like an actual job and it stopped being fun.

I'll never bench more than 345 and probably wont ever try it again and I am totally cool with that. If the gym isn't fun you will eventually quit.
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post 1617859121 09-28-2020, 06:11 PM
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I did 405 natty. But also went full bloatmaxx and got to be a 255 lard ass to do it.
post 1617859951 09-28-2020, 06:18 PM
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I got to 335-340lbs at 6'2 200lbs. I hit my PR after a few months of powerlifting consistently(obviously I have years of prior lifting experience). It makes me wonder what would be possible If I kept it up for years. I don't see why I wouldn't eventually hit 400lbs. 60lbs over multiple years sounds very doable.
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post 1617860261 09-28-2020, 06:21 PM
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This topic reminds me of when I was 17 and saw first hand just how critical genetics are.

There was this guy in my class that was the classic "always been huge" kid, taller and broader than 99% of kids his age.

He had literally 0 interest in gym, all he cared about was drag racing trucks.

In gym class we did weight lifting for a few weeks and this kid, having never touched a weight ever at the age of 17, incline benched 185 for 25 reps like it was absolutely nothing.
Eat in a deficit to lose weight.
Hit your protein and fat minimums to stay healthy and keep your gainz.
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post 1617860511 09-28-2020, 06:24 PM
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Most guys aren’t built for it, 405 is a big bench. Nothing wrong with trying though as long as your form is on point and you stay injury free.
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post 1617860981 09-28-2020, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
Most guys aren’t built for it, 405 is a big bench. Nothing wrong with trying though as long as your form is on point and you stay injury free.
this, i think most are going to experience injuries as they experience the 315+ range natty. going to really have to dial in form.
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post 1617861271 09-28-2020, 06:32 PM
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I got up to 365 for 1 but the rotator cuff screamed at me for months after. Not doing the shoulder surgery thing, it just isn't worth it for me, and i have heard too many horror stories.

Ask yourself 1 question?
Do you know anyone who has had orthopedic surgery and been perfectly healed after it?
I know zero......
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post 1617863301 09-28-2020, 06:56 PM
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You’re probably going to need to bulk, if you’re an experienced lifter.
post 1617874691 09-28-2020, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By mikieson⏩
people too hung up on body weight. a lift is a lift..
Barring absolute freaks of nature, weight and bench are highly correlated. Squat too. It's not coincidence the 400+ benchers ITT were bloatlords at the time.
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post 1617876661 09-28-2020, 09:12 PM
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If you blow out your shoulder or pec benching 405, will it be worth it? The injury/pain. The cost of surgery. The rebab process after... If the answer is yes, then by all means go for it. If your not willing to risk injury, don't.


IMO its only worth it if you are a power lifter or are getting paid to lift. Benching 405 is going to require your life revolving around training for the bench press.
post 1617879771 09-28-2020, 09:42 PM
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Depends on your size and weight

https://www.youtube.com/user/UFpwrLifter/videos

This guy is considered one of the best benchers out there, and his entire routine revolves around bench, yet he's only up to 405 @ 150 which is roughly 2.75 BW, benching for 10+ years. Most dedicated gym goers at his weight would never see 3 plates, much less 4 plates

If you weight more than 225, then a 405 lift is 1.8x your BW, which is doable, but tough.
post 1617880101 09-28-2020, 09:47 PM
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sounds like good way to get fat as fuk and/or tear a pec
See user title srs
post 1617881231 09-28-2020, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By lupus002⏩
Easy if you use good form

Easily the least impressive vid I’d see of him yet. On topic I’ve gotten 500 close grip as well as 405x10 close grip and I’ve yet to leave humanity behind but I did fairly well in the genetic lottery.
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