I imagine I can gain access to those bars if I make something like $80k. I can't imagine poor brehs get many opportunities outside of online dating

Why would you want to do that?

They are just more of a pain in the ass as they think they are more attractive due to having a relatively high status job. I'd rather sit in the suburbs and smash friendly teachers/nurses/kinesiology grads.

If you think they're going to be smarter because they have higher prestige jobs you're going to be disappointed. I've banged a few and they're really not any better than women with more feminine professions.

Its not a matter of being able to gain access its, a question of how much money do you want to spend to rub shoulders with those people? You get invited to a benefit dinner that's going to be $300-500 a person are you good with that? What about a bar that's going to run you roughly about $50-60 per drink? Other dudes your competing with show up in a Range Rover and are going to drop $1500-3000 that night buying drinks and having a good time. How much are you willing to spend to fit in with that crowd? You end up going to a dinner with a girl and some of her friends and the bill for dinner and drinks for everyone is going to be over a thousand are you going to be the first guy to reach for a check to cover everyone? Are you going to insist your going to pay when the next guy argues over it? That's the sort of thing those girls are looking at. And if they are good-looking they are accustomed to Chads with high incomes spending like that.



I'm not saying all professional woman are going to be like that. But a lot of them are. And the are used to dudes that can afford to run in those circles. My current GF used to earn between 1 and 2 million per year. Now she has down-graded dramatically to a normal salary/life-style. But I can tell you for a fact, younger people with higher status and high income spend a fukkload of money, without even thinking about it. In general they aren't hanging out with lower income people unless they have been friend with them for a long time.


If you are an absolute Chad that's super charming you might be able to bag a high status female with a moderate income. But from what I've seen that type of thing is rare because there are a ton of good looking dudes that have family money + a high income and they go for higher status women.

Nurses are all over the place

12 step meetings in high income areas

Whole food, trader joes

Gonna stick with the $80k-$130k crowd.

At least they have their own sht.

this. phucking lol.

Last girl I was with literally only used her parents money to travel, shes from NY, went to school in florida, and i hit her up at a mall in dallas. Im 24 and live with my parents lmao. im pulling girls to my car.

girls dont give a fuk about your money. LOL @ going on dinners and paying for everyone to flex. a girl might date a guy like that but shes phucking someone else on the side

If you're going to troll for attractive, professional booty in Gold Cost Chi you better be good looking and pulling down $200k+ a year at minimum or be an absolute chad.

I'm a Chicago Finance brah living in River North making 6 figs and my LTR is a Lawyer. Most of our friends living in the city without kids are professionals... finance, legal, management consulting, medicine, etc...

If you're looking to find a girl in Gold Coast or River North hot spots at a high end bar that's a professional, good luck dude. They're gonna be sloots or gold diggers.

Better off looking at networking events, social circles, and more low key areas like Wicker or Lincoln Park where YOUNG professionals in big 4, law school, grad school, etc... are living. Find them when they're up and coming in successful professionalism... not after.

If you're a legit Chad, none of this matters. Charisma and looks will get you anywhere you wanna go; but if you're here asking this question I assume Chad life isn't your reality.

Yo papi, here is the truth...





Women don't f*ck down. SRS If your not a heavy hitter in what you do... then don't expect to clap them C-suite cheeks SRS.





Also Don't:


• Say your an entrepreneur.... thats an immediate "unemployed loser" branding and game over.



• Claim to be influential or relevant in any industry... unless you are. Brass likes to network with other brass... you will get outed quick.



• Pretend to be smart or have advanced level degrees. Career women will chit test you and know if your lying.





• If your trying to f*ck money... or f*ck your way into opening career doors, you will reek of it and get passed up.


































But the realest of real talk my brah.... why do you want to fuk these women? Most are vicious kunts, don't have kids, families, or lives outside work. They are probably the #1 demographic of women to disregard as there is a reason they are all single and have to marry their careers. Stay safe SRS.

I used to run with that sort of crowd in Vegas and while you’re not wrong it’s really not where high earner women go from what I’ve seen, it’s where women of all ranges go to try and find a rich man. I pseudo dated a very beautiful woman that founded a very successful clothing company, sold it, law degree, her own foundation etc and she didn’t like those scenes at all because it was what was expected. She doesn’t drink at all and she was all about doing low key low cost every day stuff, was into me because I’m self made but rough around the edges ie not at all like the people in the scenario you describe. This chick legit cried one evening after I had taken her on an ATV tour of my ranch because she was so happy to just do simple no pressure stuff like that. Unfortunately her living on the west coast and me unwilling to sell my ranch made a relationship impossible but it really opened my eyes as to what matters and what doesn’t.

TLDR: 99% of women are exactly as the misc describes them, but the good ones definitely shouldn’t painted with the same brush. You think you know until one shows you that you don’t know.

Also a good point, DEPENDING what you want.

You wanna be a power couple? Wanna be a DINK (dual income no kids) family? Want to focus on your career, social circle, ball out with money, bunch of pets, etc... you're looking for the right thing.

But the reality is most truly driven and ambitious professional women put their career first and trying to balance having a family with that is a nightmare.
If you want a family find an educated girl with flexible career options that isn't obsessed with her career and wants to make family a priority.

But who was self-control?

Stressful jobs don’t give you a free pass to stuff your gullet and not exercise.

It’s actually the perfect unintended red flag.

Start picking up golf or dressage with an expensive horse. Go to art galleries, high end lounges, clubs. You better have a high social value if you want to smash those broads.

Lol @ “nurses”

Any trashy college bar will do.

Lol’d.

But seriously, many nurses make bank.

This. You guys think smart chicks aren't trying to get their kittens stuffed too?

All of you putting women with decent careers on a ridiculous pedestal...if they're early career they aren't going to highfalutin social functions with the Commodore lol, they're on dating apps just like you. The reason is simple - when you get out of college, your options for meeting people come down to activities (which is dangerous if you actually enjoy the activity - don't **** where you eat) and bars (which is dangerous if you like a particular bar - you'll get a reputation quickly). People with careers don't have time to **** around and wait, hence dating apps. It's more efficient.

Odd reply. Cheers

LPN isn't even a degree. Its a certificate and doesn't require 2 years of college. Its less than an associates. Its basically the sh*t job. Literally. They do what RNS don't want to do and are their bitches. Most of the time they do the nasty stuff such as wiping asses and giving sponge baths to infested homeless people. I know a ton of them.

Gold Coast isn't necessarily "rich". You can find one bed apartments for $1,800... I'm more meaning the type of successful and high earning women that might hang out at a nice Gold Coast bar are going to be women you are expecting their men to earn a certain amount if they're going to seriously date. There's always exceptions of course.

As for the $200k that's just a middle number I threw out that the average high success 30-ish year old is going to be making in Chicago in the fields we're discussing (banking, finance, tech, lawyer, management consulting, doctor, etc.. ). Some of these bonus might be needed to get up there but it's all comp at the end of the day.

Basically

Most RN's in the major hospitals around Chicago clear close to or over $100k with overtime.

If they specialize or become NP's or PA's it's usually $120-150k.

Professional women are good for the money. But that's it. Most of the time they're too cold and in their head. Maybe have too big of an ego.

They're good for the money, but not as fun to be around as a waitress, let's say.

After a certain point, you look for girls that are fun and easy to be around. Probably why Arnold was banging his maid.

I dunno man, I see it all the time. Aside from banking amd medicine, which is obvious:

- Lawyer at any decent sized or larger firm with 5+ years experience (which someone in their 30's would have) is pulling well into the 200's as an experienced associate. I have multiple friends in this category fyi.

- Corporate Finance Directors are going to be pulling 170-220k + 20%+ bonus.

- Manager level software engineers will be up there.

- Hell, I know people in sales in their 30's pulling down $200k.

- Management Consulting is definitely on the lower end for base, but if you're not with big4 and actually with specialized companies the money is there.

$200k is a lot of money. I am trying to minimize that... but it's not nearly as elusive as you think in many fields in your 30's if you know what you're doing.

LMAO but probably true.

If you want a family find a girl that isn't hyper career focused. Find a girl that is college educated but has a skill so once the kids start in school again she still has reasonable skills to get a job.

Great option are accounting chicks. If they're good at their job and even better if CPA she'll be making around $100k in late 20's. Once it's family time she can still do part time work or do taxes on the side for extra cash.

Even if she takes 5+ years off to raise a family she could always jump back in doing AP/AR work or book keeping for $50k which is better than nothing.

Same for nurses. They can be at a hospital doing OT making good money until family time. Eventually she can go to work at a local family practice with chill hours and still make $50k plus after time off.

That's good money for 32 and sounds chill AF. Solid salary + plenty of.extra time for hobbies > double the money but double the hours.

Corp Finance in Chicago for solid candidates in good companies tends to go:
Analyst = 60-80
Sr. Analyst = 75-100
Manager = 100-130
Sr. Manager = 130-160
Director = 170-220
VP = 200-400 (big swing based on experience and company. VP can have 15 years experience or 30 years experience)
CFO = Fck you money

U wot m8?

Dude. An LPN is a 2 year degree. There are also 2 year degree RN programs, but most hospitals and other settings hiring nurses are phasing those out in favor of 4 year RN degrees. I have no idea where you came up with those numbers lol.

But to the point. I will say that I think the term "professional" gets taken a little too seriously by select office worker folks when they get rustled by people using it in a more general sense. Some tradie could show up to my house to do specialized electric, plumbing, general construction work, etc. I would consider them no less "professional" than any office workers as long as they conduct themselves in a professional manner, and did professional grade work, i.e. quality work that is substantially superior to how some random clown with zero credentials would do it.

Of course, "acting professionally" is a specific concept altogether. I like to think of it as being a decent person and knowledgeable about one's specific craft. Some folks get elitist about it and get offended if the term is ever used outside of the context of some office snobs/higher level degree folks who are so uptight they enjoy the smell of their own farts. In any case, it doesn't really matter. Feel how you want to feel about it, and just be aware of how others think about it so you can conduct yourself accordingly if need be for your own benefit.

This.

My ex-wife is a nurse. After a few years of hanging out with other degenerative women, she became a bitter bitch. I started using dating apps recently and half my matches are nurses... no thanks. There is a reason many of them are single in their 30s. Also, the requirements to become a nurse is pretty low, considering how well they get paid. So many of them are pretty stupid.