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» Damn!!!! Quitting CAFFEINE IS NO JOKE!!!!! ((WITHDRAWEL))((NOT GONNA MAKE IT))
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post 1621016551 10-31-2020, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimes29
Yea science is never manipulated to get a result to reach a specific hypothesis.

Coffee is only an estimated 80+ billion dollar market and one of the highest traded commodities in the world. That doesn't even include the energy drink market which is another 80 billion dollar market.

Yea one of the most addictive legal substances that is one of the biggest money makers in the world will grow your dick larger, cures cancer, makes you live longer, gives you a healthy heart, and makes your mind bulletproof!

They honestly say coffee helps fight against cancer. 90% of americans consume caffeine daily of some sort.

The statistics state that 1 in 2 people will develop cancer at some point. The cancer rates have sky rocketed over the years.

Our mortality rate has dropped over time.

None of that research is backed up by general statistical analysis.
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post 1621016661 10-31-2020, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By sugalump5
Stopped when he said the amount he was taking, every time someone says they feel better quitting caffeine or they want to quit it they are abusing it heavily.

There is no downside to taking a small amounts every day, I.e 1 cup of coffee or 1 sugar free energy drink a day except the small added money cost over time. I drink either 1 cup of coffee or a sugar free monster about an hour or two after waking up purely for the taste cause I enjoy it, need to stop being so autistic and eliminating everything from your diet until you left with nothing but chicken brocolli rice.
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post 1621039761 11-01-2020, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimes29
Yea science is never manipulated to get a result to reach a specific hypothesis.

Coffee is only an estimated 80+ billion dollar market and one of the highest traded commodities in the world. That doesn't even include the energy drink market which is another 80 billion dollar market.

Yea one of the most addictive legal substances that is one of the biggest money makers in the world will grow your dick larger, cures cancer, makes you live longer, gives you a healthy heart, and makes your mind bulletproof!

They honestly say coffee helps fight against cancer. 90% of americans consume caffeine daily of some sort.

The statistics state that 1 in 2 people will develop cancer at some point. The cancer rates have sky rocketed over the years.

Our mortality rate has dropped over time.

None of that research is backed up by general statistical analysis.
there's no point in even trying to discuss this with someone who has so little understanding. Its depressing to think you undoubtedly typed all that chit out with confidence thinking it made you sound smart.
Originally Posted By hamburgerbread
Keep drinking your coffee. I don't give a fukk. The video addresses this too. Basically the negative vastly outweighs the positive benefits.

Take a look a cigarettes in the 60s. They had chit loads of studies saying how healthy it was. Of course there's benefits to nicotine but it's not worth it because of the negatives.

He had some good points. Do whatever you want. Keep drinking your coffee. I'm good.
Did they? Please point me towards those studies, because the tobacco companies paid for scientists to go public that they could not conclude tobacco caused cancer and then paid for them to do independent research on topics that they could try and extrapolate to the ignorant like you that it was safe. Anyone with any understanding of scientific method could point out as being a flawed or irrelevant study on the subject. Tobacco companies only started pushing the massive PR scientist chit in the 1950's after the scientists of the world had published enough studies that people were suing them for negligence. The surgeon general came out in the 1960's saying that tobacco without a doubt caused cancer causing them to have to pay for "studies" to prevent them from being sued to hell and back. Does that sound remotely similar to caffeine to you?

All of this info is readily available online man, it should be easy to point me in the direction of scientist not bought out by the "caffeine industry" (lmao) that have proven its negative health consequences.

everyone knew it was bad, they'd had proof of it since the 1920's and is the entire reason the tobacco industry had to start trying to cover its tracks.
Evidence linking smoking and cancer appeared in the 1920s (15). Between 1920 and 1940, a chemist named Angel Honorio Roffo published several articles showing that cancers could be experimentally induced by exposure to tars from burned tobacco (16). Roffo et al. further showed that cancer could be induced by using nicotine-free tobacco, which means that tar, with or without nicotine, was carcinogenic. Research implicating smoking as a cause of cancer began to mount during the 1950s, with several landmark publications in leading medical journals (17-23). The first official U.S. government statement on smoking and health was issued by the Surgeon General Leroy Burney in a televised press conference in 1957, wherein he reported that the scientific evidence supported cigarette smoking as a causative factor in the etiology of lung cancer (24, 25). By 1960, Joseph Garland, Editor of the New England Journal, wrote, “No responsible observer can deny this association, and the evidence is now sufficiently strong to suggest a causative role” (26).

In their public statements, tobacco companies held that cigarettes had not been proven to be injurious to health. For example, a November 1953 press release issued by the American Tobacco Company stated, “…no one has yet proved that lung cancer in any human being is directly traceable to tobacco or its products in any form” (27). In a New York Times story based on this press release, the headline states that Mr. Hahn (President of the American Tobacco Company) characterizes the evidence of a link between cigarette smoking and an increase in the incidence of lung cancer as “Loose Talk” (28). In 1954, Philip Morris Vice President George Weissman announced that if the company had any thought or knowledge that in any way we were selling a product harmful to consumers, that they would stop business immediately (29). Senior scientists and executives at tobacco companies, however, knew about the potential cancer risk of smoking as early as the 1940s, and most accepted the fact that smoking caused cancer by the late 1950s (30-34).

A 1939 memorandum from the American Tobacco Company Research Director Hiram Hanmer noted, “We have been following Roffo's work for some time, and I feel that it is rather unfortunate that a statement such as his [implicating smoking in cancer] is widely disseminated” (30). A few years later, H.B. Parmele, a scientist working for the Lorillard Tobacco Company, wrote a report to the company's manufacturing committee observing that, “Certain scientists and medical authorities have claimed for many years that the use of tobacco contributes to cancer development in susceptible people. Just enough evidence has been presented to justify the possibility of such a presumption…benzpyrene is presumed to be a combustion product of burning tobacco and, by animal experiments, it has been shown to possess definite carcinogenic properties” (31). In 1953, a chemist at R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, Claude Teague, produced a literature survey on smoking and cancer referencing 78 articles, which offered the following conclusion: “…studies of clinical data tend to confirm the relationship between heavy and prolonged tobacco smoking and incidence of cancer of the lung” (32). Three scientists from the British American Tobacco Company reported in 1958 on the results of a visit to the United States, investigating the extent to which tobacco industry and non-industry scientists accepted the premise that cigarette smoke was a cause of lung cancer (33). Their report concludes that “With one exception [HSN Green from Yale University] the individuals with whom we met believed that smoking causes lung cancer, if by ‘causation’ we mean any chain of events which leads finally to lung cancer and which involves smoking as an indispensable link” (33).
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post 1621039791 11-01-2020, 03:41 AM
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Caffeine is the GOAT drug.
Coffee is the GOAT drink

anyone saying otherwise is just cope.

Obviously you drink too much it'll have detrimental effects but that can be said about anything and everything. you can kill yourself from drinking too much water for Petes sake

The ideal dosage for me is something like

1-2 cups of coffee/Americano, 3-5x a week. anything more than that you build tolerance/dependency
I have noticed it does cause slight anxiety, so depending on what Im doing that day I may abstain.

The key to keeping a clear mind is a rotation of coffee/meditation. coffee gives you a kind of nervous energy thats is great if you use it in the right scenario. meditation gives a beautiful calmness and stillness.

also coffee just tastes. so. damn. good.
post 1621039801 11-01-2020, 03:41 AM
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No headaches today, I think i've made it. Although, there's still caffeine in decaf, so cutting that completely may be harder.
post 1621039931 11-01-2020, 03:46 AM
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post 1621040531 11-01-2020, 04:08 AM
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caffiene has no effect on me, never realised people actually got a boost from it. I love iced coffee tho. If I go without caffiene cold turkey nothing happens.
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post 1621046121 11-01-2020, 06:44 AM
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Caffein addiction is real
post 1621046361 11-01-2020, 06:51 AM
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So we no caffeine now? Were the Mormons right all along?

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post 1621047501 11-01-2020, 07:15 AM
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I quit cold turkey over the summer. Headaches, nausea, lethargy and brain fog for one week. But after that I was fine, and now I sleep better than I have in years. Dark circles and under eye bags are gone. Steady energy throughout the day. It’s amazing.

I have a cup of coffee every once in a while (maybe once every two weeks) if I feel like I really need a boost to stay up to finish some work or something, but I’m not addicted anymore.
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post 1621047521 11-01-2020, 07:15 AM
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You did well embarking on this, OP

I did the same and it was one of the better decisions I’ve made recently.

Keep at it. In all honesty, it’s a walk in the park and it feels good not needing any stimulants.

Cheers
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post 1621047911 11-01-2020, 07:20 AM
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I kicked it by having a bad case of the flu. I wasn't able to hold anything down and anything with caffeine made me feel ill. So when it was finally over I just continued not taking it, the worst of the side effects were over by the point.

I had tried previously to quit and wasn't able too.
post 1621083591 11-01-2020, 03:06 PM
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Isn't it better to taper it down instead of cold turkey?
post 1621083791 11-01-2020, 03:08 PM
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I have tried quitting before. The headaches were so bad
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