Thread: PWC strikes again
12-01-2020, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
dayumm PWC you make any money off that?Since this thread is now about Preston Ward Condra, here are some fun facts.
-He has a youtube channel with 66k subscribers! Some of his videos have millions of views!
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-He has a youtube channel with 66k subscribers! Some of his videos have millions of views!
-He also has a very interesting ******** account!https://www.********.com/prestoncondra23
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12-01-2020, 01:59 PM
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I thought all women loved makeup tutorials. I can see how if that was sent by an employer or employer vendor it being unprofessional though
My wife's favorite youtube channel is this chick with hand tattoos who tells true crime stories whilst doing super convoluted makeup. It's strange since my wife always does understated and natural looking makeup. I think she may just be using the makeup as an excuse to listen to an inordinate amount of true crime looking for ways to kill me while getting away with it
My wife's favorite youtube channel is this chick with hand tattoos who tells true crime stories whilst doing super convoluted makeup. It's strange since my wife always does understated and natural looking makeup. I think she may just be using the makeup as an excuse to listen to an inordinate amount of true crime looking for ways to kill me while getting away with it
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12-01-2020, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
This is just my experience, but I avoided makeup due to religious reasons for the first 22-ish years of my life so by this point it just looks dirty and insane to me. I used to think it was because I did it wrong but I got it professionally done twice for weddings and each time I looked just as bizarre and fake. I think your wife likes the true crime-ness of it allI thought all women loved makeup tutorials. I can see how if that was sent by an employer or employer vendor it being unprofessional though
My wife's favorite youtube channel is this chick with hand tattoos who tells true crime stories whilst doing super convoluted makeup. It's strange since my wife always does understated and natural looking makeup. I think she may just be using the makeup as an excuse to listen to an inordinate amount of true crime looking for ways to kill me while getting away with it
My wife's favorite youtube channel is this chick with hand tattoos who tells true crime stories whilst doing super convoluted makeup. It's strange since my wife always does understated and natural looking makeup. I think she may just be using the makeup as an excuse to listen to an inordinate amount of true crime looking for ways to kill me while getting away with it

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12-01-2020, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
Wot. Who is saying how you exist isn't good enough? At least moreso than you aren't "existing well" because you're wearing a crummy suit or something?The wellness branding is incredible, LOL. I view a proposed seminar on professional dress (which is an onboarding requirement and completely necessary) as quite different than makeup. PD on appropriate work attire feels different thanteaching people that how they exist isn't quite good enough.If there's any year to let humans be humans, this would be the year.
I see makeup as being part of professional dress. It is sex-specific dress, but it is still a way to outfit your person, and employers are allowed to make requirements about the use of it or lack thereof.
12-01-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By strawbrerry1⏩
If done right, it can make you look longer/leaner/taller.Aware me on this? Does it draw the eye a certain way during video calls?
Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
I don't think women's faces need to be fixed and if required, it's a bit of a sex-tax. Women don't need to spend money to enhance their features, they're fine the way they are. Everyone has a right to wear it if they want, but I personally find requiring it to be silly and antiquated.Wot. Who is saying how you exist isn't good enough? At least moreso than you aren't "existing well" because you're wearing a crummy suit or something?
I see makeup as being part of professional dress. It is sex-specific dress, but it is still a way to outfit your person, and employers are allowed to make requirements about the use of it or lack thereof.
I see makeup as being part of professional dress. It is sex-specific dress, but it is still a way to outfit your person, and employers are allowed to make requirements about the use of it or lack thereof.
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12-01-2020, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
"Employers regulate clothing, piercings, tattoos, makeup, nails, hair, and more. For the most part these dress codes are legal as long as they are not discriminatory. For example, men and women can have different dress codes if the dress codes do not put an unfair burden on one gender. "I don't think women's faces need to be fixed and if required, it's a bit of a sex-tax. Women don't need to spend money to enhance their features, they're fine the way they are. Everyone has a right to wear it if they want, but I personally find requiring it to be silly and antiquated.
I also don't think women's faces need to be fixed either (nor do I think I need to shave. who tf buyin my razors?), but PWC is allowed to require it, and people being fine the way they are does NOT seem to be one of PWC's values.
I could see the argument that requiring women to wear makeup generally places *more* of a burden on women, but it seems like it's not a big enough disparity to be considered an *unfair* burden (obviously gendered dress codes can't be perfectly symmetrical in work required). Maybe it actually is an unfair burden, but I think it is *generally seen* as not an unfair burden, which makes things like the originally discussed seminar at least not "out-of-touch."
https://www.workplacefairness.org/dress-codes-grooming
12-01-2020, 02:46 PM
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lol looks more like someone within PwC is a MLM hun trying to peddle her overpriced garbage.
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12-01-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
I'm well aware of legalities and employment law. As a person, I find it silly. That's all. I'm not trying to be dismissive but you also don't need to put more work into this argument, it's already a lot."Employers regulate clothing, piercings, tattoos, makeup, nails, hair, and more. For the most part these dress codes are legal as long as they are not discriminatory. For example, men and women can have different dress codes if the dress codes do not put an unfair burden on one gender. "
I also don't think women's faces need to be fixed either (nor do I think I need to shave. who tf buyin my razors?), but PWC is allowed to require it, and people being fine the way they are does NOT seem to be one of PWC's values.
I could see the argument that requiring women to wear makeup generally places *more* of a burden on women, but it seems like it's not a big enough disparity to be considered an *unfair* burden (obviously gendered dress codes can't be perfectly symmetrical in work required). Maybe it actually is an unfair burden, but I think it is *generally seen* as not an unfair burden, which makes things like the originally discussed seminar at least not "out-of-touch."
https://www.workplacefairness.org/dress-codes-grooming
I also don't think women's faces need to be fixed either (nor do I think I need to shave. who tf buyin my razors?), but PWC is allowed to require it, and people being fine the way they are does NOT seem to be one of PWC's values.
I could see the argument that requiring women to wear makeup generally places *more* of a burden on women, but it seems like it's not a big enough disparity to be considered an *unfair* burden (obviously gendered dress codes can't be perfectly symmetrical in work required). Maybe it actually is an unfair burden, but I think it is *generally seen* as not an unfair burden, which makes things like the originally discussed seminar at least not "out-of-touch."
https://www.workplacefairness.org/dress-codes-grooming
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12-01-2020, 03:04 PM
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Inb4 they make it mandatory compliance training for everybody to promote diversity and inclusion
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12-01-2020, 03:06 PM
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It's well known that people are more confident when they think that they look good. Whether that means nice clothes, makeup, hair, whatever. Any organization should encourage staff to feel good to boost confidence in meetings, especially for staff that interact with clients?
Who cares.
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12-01-2020, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
The citations are more for me then. I wasn't aware of the specifics.I'm well aware of legalities and employment law. As a person, I find it silly. That's all. I'm not trying to be dismissive but you also don't need to put more work into this argument, it's already a lot.
12-01-2020, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By lnvictus⏩
This thread would have made me feel silly for wearing a Guns n Roses t-shirt and Matthew Chav-approved grey joggers in my Zoom meeting today but I'm with the client so whatya gonna do?Wait, people do makeup/dress up for zoom calls?
I am definitely doing it wrong then.
I am definitely doing it wrong then.
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12-01-2020, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Mike86er⏩
Nah, don't feel silly, honestly that's the norm. As long as you're not in a bathrobe or something, because that is jarring and I actually had to see that before 8am.This thread would have made me feel silly for wearing a Guns n Roses t-shirt and Matthew Chav-approved grey joggers in my Zoom meeting today but I'm with the client so whatya gonna do?
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12-01-2020, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
"Hey you dog faced skanks, learn how to not look like a corpse on Zoom and also click here to see whose self-esteem is so low that they actually rsvp'd for this nonsense"
Seriously though, am I insane for thinking that look is out of touch and unprofessional and the message is a little repulsive?
Nothing will ever beat E&Y's "woman have pancake brains" seminar, though.
i can only recall seeing one woman irl w/cake face like that in the past 5 years at least. it was truly weird to me.
"Hey you dog faced skanks, learn how to not look like a corpse on Zoom and also click here to see whose self-esteem is so low that they actually rsvp'd for this nonsense"
Seriously though, am I insane for thinking that look is out of touch and unprofessional and the message is a little repulsive?
Nothing will ever beat E&Y's "woman have pancake brains" seminar, though.
Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
thanks. i saw those frozen pie crusts and wondered if they were any good.Sure thing!
This is one my family requests me to make almost every Holiday - Chocolate Salted Caramel Pecan Pie
Spoiler!
1 ½ cups sugar
¾ cup butter, melted
⅓ cup all-purpose flour
⅓ cup 100% cacao unsweetened cocoa
1 tablespoon light corn syrup
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
3 large eggs
1 cup toasted chopped pecans
1 (9-inch) unbaked deep-dish piecrust shell
Salted Caramel Topping
¾ cup sugar
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
⅓ cup heavy cream
4 tablespoons butter
¼ teaspoon table salt
2 cups toasted pecan halves
½ teaspoon sea salt
Step 1
Prepare Filling: Preheat oven to 350°. Stir together first 6 ingredients in a large bowl. Add eggs, stirring until well blended. Fold in chopped pecans. Pour mixture into pie shell.
Step 2
Bake at 350° for 35 minutes. (Filling will be loose but will set as it cools.) Remove from oven to a wire rack.
Step 3
Prepare Topping: Bring 3/4 cup sugar, 1 Tbsp. lemon juice, and 1/4 cup water to a boil in a medium saucepan over high heat. (Do not stir.) Boil, swirling occasionally after sugar begins to change color, 8 minutes or until dark amber. (Do not walk away from the pan, as the sugar could burn quickly once it begins to change color.) Remove from heat; add cream and 4 Tbsp. butter. Stir constantly until bubbling stops and butter is incorporated (about 1 minute). Stir in table salt.
Step 4
Arrange pecan halves on pie. Top with warm caramel. Cool 15 minutes; sprinkle with sea salt.
And a classic Buttermilk:
Spoiler!
1 (9-inch) Pie Crust Recipe, unbaked
3 eggs
1 1/4 cups granulated sugar
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1/2 cup butter melted
1 cup buttermilk
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon lemon zest
pinch of salt
Preheat oven to 350º F.
Mix together eggs, granulated sugar, flour, butter, buttermilk, vanilla, lemon juice, lemon zest, and salt until well-combined. Pour into the unbaked pie crust and bake for 45-50 minutes until set and golden brown.
Remove from the oven and allow to cool prior to slicing.
Pro-Tip: Trader Joe's makes the GOAT frozen pie crusts. You can make your own but I've tried many recipes and think TJ does it best.
It can be! The floor is yours
This is one my family requests me to make almost every Holiday - Chocolate Salted Caramel Pecan Pie
Spoiler!
1 ½ cups sugar
¾ cup butter, melted
⅓ cup all-purpose flour
⅓ cup 100% cacao unsweetened cocoa
1 tablespoon light corn syrup
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
3 large eggs
1 cup toasted chopped pecans
1 (9-inch) unbaked deep-dish piecrust shell
Salted Caramel Topping
¾ cup sugar
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
⅓ cup heavy cream
4 tablespoons butter
¼ teaspoon table salt
2 cups toasted pecan halves
½ teaspoon sea salt
Step 1
Prepare Filling: Preheat oven to 350°. Stir together first 6 ingredients in a large bowl. Add eggs, stirring until well blended. Fold in chopped pecans. Pour mixture into pie shell.
Step 2
Bake at 350° for 35 minutes. (Filling will be loose but will set as it cools.) Remove from oven to a wire rack.
Step 3
Prepare Topping: Bring 3/4 cup sugar, 1 Tbsp. lemon juice, and 1/4 cup water to a boil in a medium saucepan over high heat. (Do not stir.) Boil, swirling occasionally after sugar begins to change color, 8 minutes or until dark amber. (Do not walk away from the pan, as the sugar could burn quickly once it begins to change color.) Remove from heat; add cream and 4 Tbsp. butter. Stir constantly until bubbling stops and butter is incorporated (about 1 minute). Stir in table salt.
Step 4
Arrange pecan halves on pie. Top with warm caramel. Cool 15 minutes; sprinkle with sea salt.
And a classic Buttermilk:
Spoiler!
1 (9-inch) Pie Crust Recipe, unbaked
3 eggs
1 1/4 cups granulated sugar
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
1/2 cup butter melted
1 cup buttermilk
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 tablespoon lemon zest
pinch of salt
Preheat oven to 350º F.
Mix together eggs, granulated sugar, flour, butter, buttermilk, vanilla, lemon juice, lemon zest, and salt until well-combined. Pour into the unbaked pie crust and bake for 45-50 minutes until set and golden brown.
Remove from the oven and allow to cool prior to slicing.
Pro-Tip: Trader Joe's makes the GOAT frozen pie crusts. You can make your own but I've tried many recipes and think TJ does it best.
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i actually wore makeup everyday from around thirteen until 30 something. partly it was because it was the style/expected (mid 80s through 90s) and because sometimes it was part of being dressed for work. strikes me as a little crazy that i had to wear dresses/skirts, pantyhose, and do full hair and makeup for jobs working at the mall.
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12-01-2020, 03:18 PM
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12-01-2020, 03:26 PM
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Maybe it's because I'm male, but I'm getting "dumb corporate event" vibes out of this rather than "offensive insinuation".
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12-01-2020, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
I think the only...offensive is too strong of a word, let's be real it's an email about makeup...but the weird part of it is how it stems from the wellness side of the house. That's hilarious, and I would probably question the judgment of someone attending such nonsense, in a "let me help you show actual value and perhaps bring in business instead of going to makeup tutorials you can find on Youtube on your own time" kind of way.Maybe it's because I'm male, but I'm getting "dumb corporate event" vibes out of this rather than "offensive insinuation".
Anyways, I'm hoping a disgruntled PWC snarker starts showing up in full drag.
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