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post 1625547243 12-14-2020, 06:19 PM
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to be fair, most people who "bulk" just go on massive retarded dirty bulks and don't really retain any of their gains after cutting
post 1625549633 12-14-2020, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Extrabass⏩
wtf are you talking about!?

Fat loss will result in weight loss, *******. Obviously don't focus on the scale too much, the whole basis of weight loss is amplified by the industry, but fat loss is still gonna result in weight loss as a consequence.

And it still boils down to cals in vs cals out. Dumb fuk
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post 1625549953 12-14-2020, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag⏩
Who tf is Alan Roberts. Not gonna take advice from some nobody
bitter a$$ youtuber that's trying to gain views by bashing other fitness youtubers...
post 1625550363 12-14-2020, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Extrabass⏩
make your point you fat bastard


. Explain where I'm wrong. Post something that will yield significant results
Ho-lee-fukk

Fat loss and weight loss don't mean the same thing.
And ppl who claim all that matters are cals in/out are retarded, like you.
post 1625551013 12-14-2020, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy⏩
I used to like greg before he started doing all these useless natty or not and becoming an online persona. He started to get traction when he spoke about sarms. Decent info, sometimes wrong, sometimes right. Then he put out unnecessary drama videos and started changing his voice for whatever reason and became annoying to me. He then went after stephanie buttermore for no reason other than views.

A lot of people in the industry don't like him, but pretend to because they know his toxic fanbase will attack them if they say anything negative about greg. Allegedly there are people now doxing him and harassing his gf and family. There are legit psychopaths in the fitness industry. Guy might be digging his own grave.
I do like Greg pretty much for his entertainment value and some of his advice but he thinks he knows everything when he really doesn't, and has really bought into his own hype way too much.

People will probably think you're WK'ing Stephanie but he had solid reasoning behind what she did and is healthier and happier so what's his opinion really matter.

Shame because when you see Greg in normal day in the life vids he seems like a really cool dude, but then he takes on this act that's too much. He thinks that pros and people who inspire to look great should take none/little steroids just because he has great genetics and built a base will all the drugs in the world, and acts like now that he's cruising on TRT he's basically natty.
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post 1625552453 12-14-2020, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Extrabass⏩
I already clarified they don't mean the same thing. But losing fat is still gonna result in weight being loss, idiot. And i already stated that weight loss is amplified by the industry. One shouldn't focus on the scale.

Explain the other factors that play a significant role then. Stop just saying cals in aren't the only thing that matter and state the other chit that does. BTW I already stated on page 1 just hit your protein requirement + sufficient cals + rest + progressive overload + training frequency

What else is significantly important?
Probably gonna say some stupid **** like go carnivore or manipulate your food to manipulate your hormones.
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post 1625599023 12-15-2020, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer⏩
Good luck with your strength goals as a natty remaining 8-12% all year round.
good luck thinking nattys cant receive the same training and diets as enhanced lifters. Its crazy that every top level bodybuilding and powerlifting coach says they prescribe the same diets and exercise programming to both groups the only difference is pharma people stay a little leaner and gain quicker.

Misc is on some bullchit thinking oj is so massively different than natty, its really not as big as you incels think.
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post 1625599473 12-15-2020, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8⏩
Do you have any current proper studies. The anabrolic window was fairly debunked last I looked into it
anabolic window wasnt "debunked" also key word there is "anabolic" Did I say anything about anabolism? I said muscle protein synthesis is enhanced and muscle glycogen reuptake is enhanced. Theres plenty of studies to prove it im not going to go look for them to prove my point to you.

Honestly I am tempted to neg everyone who says "show me studies" , I am not your study chauffeur, if i make a statement i dont have some ****ing magical file I keep on my computer to readily save and pull every study I have read.

So when you ask me "do you have studies to prove it" you are asking me to go spend 15 minutes looking for the specific studies and copy and paste just to show you and you may or may not even come back to look at this thread.

No thanks jeff, do it on your own time.
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post 1625600013 12-15-2020, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Hartley110⏩
Ho-lee-fukk

Fat loss and weight loss don't mean the same thing.
And ppl who claim all that matters are cals in/out are retarded, like you.
I think where this extrabass retard is lacking basic logical understanding is that

Fat loss OFTEN also means weight loss, but in some individuals who happen to grow muslce and lose fat, they may gain weight but lose fat. It i s possible

BUT

Weight loss DEFINITELY does not always mean fat loss, ESPECIALLY bodyfat % loss. Because as you decrease weight both lean mass and fat mass, body fat % also changes because it is a percentage (fat mass: total body weight) . Also if you are predominantly losing muscle because youre too focused on calories in : calories out and eating mostly carbs and fats, your body will be burning muscle amino acids for energy if you are lifting heavy and you will then burn muscle to make up for the defecit because you eat like a dumbass following CICO as the only factor of "weight" loss.
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post 1625601643 12-15-2020, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
good luck thinking nattys cant receive the same training and diets as enhanced lifters. Its crazy that every top level bodybuilding and powerlifting coach says they prescribe the same diets and exercise programming to both groups the only difference is pharma people stay a little leaner and gain quicker.

Misc is on some bullchit thinking oj is so massively different than natty, its really not as big as you incels think.
Sure thing bro. I have a buddy on gear and he eats pizza and McDonald’s all day and looks almost identical to Ronnie Coleman. Says you don’t even need to go over 135 on any lift either
post 1625602343 12-15-2020, 09:31 AM
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He doesnt have **** against Greg, all the same BS just hes being loud and annoying as fuk. "Dont listen to guys talking about other people".

Yeah lets all be fukin monks and listen to nature. Greg has the balls to make money calling out people that are doing illegal cycles, lying about it and pretending hard work and good genetics got them to their level. You have 18 year old videogame twitch players with millions of followers now going on cycles and gaining 30 pounds of muscle while claiming it was all natty.

Someone has to call out these fukers.
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post 1625602443 12-15-2020, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By EnochsProphecy⏩
It kinda is when you add insulin to the mix. Suddenly pre-intra and post workout nutrition changes. Also enhanced users can get away with a lot more. A natty has to train near 70% of their 1rm to see results after their novice phase. Enhanced users can see results training as low as 30% of their 1rm. Protein requirement to maintain/grow muscle mass is also lower lb/lb when enhanced.

Natties also have to cut a lot longer/slower to reach 6-8% bf without much muscle loss. The enhanced lifter can cut in 1/3rd of that time when fat burners like di-nitro andcleanare added.
Theres a difference between saying natty lifters have to eat and train different than enhanced lifters and natty lifters have to train and eat different than someone taking every type of OJ substance both bulking and cutting.

But none of that negates what I said. I said programming and diets are almost always the same for nattys and enhanced. The difference is the time it takes for them to reach their goal, but everyone also has different goals. But the argument of " well a natty cant train like an enhanced lifter" or "Well only enhanced lifters can bulk a certain way nattys cant" is fukking stupid and its a cope excuse for a natty who didnt get the results they wanted NOT because they werent enhanced but because this chit is a lot harder than people think. Also most miscers know jack **** about actually lifting correctly such:

exercise selection for hypertrophy, not for ego or "BB free weight everything is the only way:
full correct RoM for the targeted muscle only
tempo of concentric and eccentric
proper program setup for rep/set schemes according to their training level
proper internal cuing of muscles targeted
well maintained accurate progressive overload consistently
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post 1625602613 12-15-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag⏩
Sure thing bro. I have a buddy on gear and he eats pizza and McDonald’s all day and looks almost identical to Ronnie Coleman. Says you don’t even need to go over 135 on any lift either
cool story

I am on oj and can rep 400 on bench 500 on squats and 600 on deadlifts and if I eat a pizza I look like chit the next day and if I go off meal plan of 95% lean meat and rice i see noticeable fat gains fast.


Its called genetics, not OJ. Your friend is lucky but by no means the standard for how OJ works.
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post 1625602663 12-15-2020, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW⏩
Can't believe anyone still gives a fuk about any of this chit, let alone follow people on IG/youtube.

- Eat moderately and healthy most of the time to offset weekend binges on pizza, wings, and other tasty schit.

- Go to the gym 3 times a week and bust your ass for 30 minutes for maintenance. Go 4 to 5 days for any specific goal you're trying to reach.

/fitnessindustry.



Alas... *******s like this exist because people lack basic discipline and drive. Mind nuked at how mentally weak the general public is.
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post 1625602703 12-15-2020, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
cool story

I am on oj and can rep 400 on bench 500 on squats and 600 on deadlifts and if I eat a pizza I look like chit the next day and if I go off meal plan of 95% lean meat and rice i see noticeable fat gains fast.


Its called genetics, not OJ. Your friend is lucky but by no means the standard for how OJ works.
It was sarcasm
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