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post 1626229903 12-21-2020, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx
Lol, question.

What is worse for your health, opiates or kratom? There's only 1 answer.

Is it easy to "just get off opiates". No, people literally die from that.

Thus, Kratom is the solution here.

The dumb ones are those who begin a Kratom dependency for no reason.
And no, people do not die from opiate withdrawals. At least not directly. Withdrawals you can die from are benzos and alcohol.
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post 1626230093 12-21-2020, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Helps me sleep. 100x better than melatonin.
Can you share more info? any particular kind? Dosage? Things to avoid?
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Hemp oil works wonders on skin. Look younger instantly, just looks softer and smoother. Not sure if it has long term effect but better than any moisturiser I've ever used.
Nobody asked about hemp oil, you retarded sloot
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post 1626230323 12-21-2020, 05:23 PM
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wouldn't the withdrawals for anything be a lot easier if you simply tapered off?
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post 1626230333 12-21-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Listen man, my addiction credentials are maxed out. You name it I’ve done it, 1000000x, and for years lol. If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t be commenting on this.

I was clean off everything for years...then started taking kratom because I thought it was just some cope bs. Ended up full blown addicted to that for years as well. I estimate I was taking 80+ grams of it per day when I finally quit lol. And then came a month+ long withdrawal. I’ve had every kind of withdrawal you can have. Opiates withdrawals are more intense, but they don’t last as long. Kratom withdrawals are a never ending hell. Just this super uneasy restless, sleepless feeling, 24/7 for a month or longer. It was a nightmare. Opiate withdrawals can be over in a week or 2.

My kratom withdrawals were MINIMUM a month, and maybe even longer.

Do what you gotta do but I’m speaking from experience
I wouldn't expect anything less.

That's literally my experience that I've seen times 100.

I literally agree with you. If you get addicted to it through recreational uses, that's on you. Don't do heroin for fun, same logic applies.

You're story is literally: I was dumb enough to take large amounts of Kratom without knowing anything about it. This happens to tons of idiots with all sorts of substances besides Kratom.

That's why I said: Kratoms true value is helping opiate addicts get off opiates.
post 1626230713 12-21-2020, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
And no, people do not die from opiate withdrawals. At least not directly. Withdrawals you can die from are benzos and alcohol.
People do die from opiate withdrawals. But you know what is much more common? Overdoses.

As a former medic, I've responded to THOUSANDS of overdoses. Go ahead and ask me how many Kratom overdoses I've responded to.

Kratom =/= Opium
post 1626230743 12-21-2020, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx
I wouldn't expect anything less.

That's literally my experience that I've seen times 100.

I literally agree with you. If you get addicted to it through recreational uses, that's on you. Don't do heroin for fun, same logic applies.

You're story is literally: I was dumb enough to take large amounts of Kratom without knowing anything about it. This happens to tons of idiots with all sorts of substances besides Kratom.

That's why I said: Kratoms true value is helping opiate addicts get off opiates.
Are you still taking kratom?
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post 1626231083 12-21-2020, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx
People do die from opiate withdrawals. But you know what is much more common? Overdoses.

As a former medic, I've responded to THOUSANDS of overdoses. Go ahead and ask me how many Kratom overdoses I've responded to.

Kratom =/= Opium
Overdose and withdrawal are two different things.

https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/y...ate-withdrawal

Read. I said you do not die from opiate withdrawals(at least not directly).
You can die from dehydration due to vomiting diarrhea etc. so like I said, you don’t die directly from the withdrawal. The things where withdrawals can kill you are benzos and alcohol
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post 1626231143 12-21-2020, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Are you still taking kratom?
No, but I worked in a business that sold massive quantities.

Before you judge, just know that NOBODY else warned consumers of it's risks more than I did.

That's also where I learned about hundreds of actual opiate addicts using Kratom to get off of opiates.
post 1626231323 12-21-2020, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Overdose and withdrawal are two different things.

https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/blog/y...ate-withdrawal

Read. I said you do not die from opiate withdrawals(at least not directly).
You can die from dehydration due to vomiting diarrhea etc. so like I said, you don’t die directly from the withdrawal. The things where withdrawals can kill you are benzos and alcohol
I've literally administered Narcan thousands of times.. I'll leave it at that.
post 1626231613 12-21-2020, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx
I've literally administered Narcan thousands of times.. I'll leave it at that.
Narcan is for overdoses

I’m not sure how you aren’t grasping this. Withdrawals and overdoses are two different things

https://americanaddictioncenters.org.../risk-of-death

Here’s another source you can read, repeating all the stuff I just said
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post 1626231723 12-21-2020, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
Narcan is for overdoses

I’m not sure how you aren’t grasping this. Withdrawals and overdoses are two different things

https://americanaddictioncenters.org.../risk-of-death

Here’s another source you can read, repeating all the stuff I just said
Yes, I know that.

What is your solution for those going through heavy opiate withdrawals? Let em be?
post 1626231963 12-21-2020, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx
Yes, I know that.

What is your solution for those going through heavy opiate withdrawals? Let em be?
Up to them. The easy way is to get them into a detox where they can be given suboxone or subutex and weened off by a doctor in a week.

Having a doctor feed you your meds while in a detox clinic is different than a fully blown addicted person trying to treat themselves with an endless supply of kratom.

For obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted By DumpsterFire
I got a buddy who got hooked on that Kratom chit. Its bad news.
the wd from it is a living nightmare took me 4 months before i felt kinda normal.
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post 1626232643 12-21-2020, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Mcfreako
I can confirm, Kratom is highly addictive if u have an addictive personality. So don’t assume it’s any less so.

The withdrawals are not nearly as intense as with real opiates, but they seem to last much longer. It’s basically a constant 24/7 anxiety/restlessness and I couldn’t sleep at all it seemed, literally for like a month

Granted I was doing an insane amount of it, for a pretty long time....but the point is, if ur worried about getting addicted to things, I don’t recommend kratom lol
I do 2 months on 1 month off. Everything in moderation. But CBD does help, older people swear by it for their joints and muscles.
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Originally Posted By Bosko
It doesn't help chit!!!
I know buddy first hand...it replaces one drug with another is why you think it helps people get off other opiates..

Watch vids on YouTube of people going through withdrawals....I was one of them!!
How much were you doing a day? I haven't had any problems with withdrawal. You slowly bring the dosing down and then take a month off and back at it. Now you start taking 50 grams a day of it you have a serious problem.
post 1626236283 12-21-2020, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted By rgnx
Yes, I know that.

What is your solution for those going through heavy opiate withdrawals? Let em be?
immodium supposedly works incredibly well srs
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post 1626237193 12-21-2020, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
I do 2 months on 1 month off. Everything in moderation. But CBD does help, older people swear by it for their joints and muscles.
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