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02-19-2021, 01:30 PM
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Based and red pilledConservatives are cucks, liberals are cucks, Christians are cucks, politicians are cucks. don’t **** your pants when you see the whole country going up in smoke when we have a country run by cucks.
02-19-2021, 01:33 PM
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Warmongers that knowingly sacrificed thousands of brave, young Americans to capture desert in a foreign land.i actually liked dick cheney and rumsfeld srs
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02-19-2021, 01:34 PM
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There's nothing I hate about the conservative viewpoint. What I hate are it's champions who are a detriment to the conservative cause. And their stupid actions and hypocrisy. Donald Trump being prime example. Ted Cruz. Margerie Taylor Greene. I could go on. We need an "Obama" tier leader who can energize conservatives without blowing up the party.
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02-19-2021, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Camecha⏩
This is a good point, I should have thought a bit more before my previous reply.I am absolutely not a socialist but wealth inequality is absolutely a problem in this country that needs to be addressed.
The religious right is also completely retarded in nearly every capacity, dumb outdated social views ect
The war on drugs is an absolute failure but retard Republicans still think you should be locked in a cage for partaking in a different drug than them (their drug is alcohol)
I voted for trump and will continue voting republican but really don’t agree on everything
The religious right is also completely retarded in nearly every capacity, dumb outdated social views ect
The war on drugs is an absolute failure but retard Republicans still think you should be locked in a cage for partaking in a different drug than them (their drug is alcohol)
I voted for trump and will continue voting republican but really don’t agree on everything
Conservatives consistently lose when:
There is a problem.
Democrats try to solve problem.
Republicans deny the problem exists.
It happens in so many ways. The wages issue is a big one. Democrats pick the most straight to the point way to address it, and even if it is a retarded solution.....it's better than looking like corporate bitches. Republicans have no leg to stand on and are supporting corporate welfare by having companies pay their employees schit wages so the govt can make it up in food stamps and welfare. I don't agree with $15 so fast, but idiotfuk repubs should have addressed this when it was ripe to address (like during Trump's term!).
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02-19-2021, 01:45 PM
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Their anti-drug policy is absolutely idiotic. It's completely contrary to the idea of Christian redemption to lock someone up in prison for a non-violent drug offense. True addicts need help, not punishment. And plenty of people who've done drugs are in fantastic positions in life (I'm one of them).
Also can't stand the genuine racism some of them spout. I've heard young conservatives, even plenty of Miscers talk about the dangers of "interracial dating" and other horsechit like that. My happiest and most fulfilling relationship to date was with a girl who was born in China and came to this country when she was 14. Smartest girl I've ever met to this day. She caused me to grow like nobody else has and holds a special place in my heart, even if things ultimately didn't work out. But some of my very conservative relatives, who I love dearly, never knew of her existence because I knew they would make things difficult. Either say racist chit to her, to talk behind our back. I think the fetishization a lot of progressive have for black people is ridiculous, but the opposite mentality is idiotic as well.
Also can't stand the genuine racism some of them spout. I've heard young conservatives, even plenty of Miscers talk about the dangers of "interracial dating" and other horsechit like that. My happiest and most fulfilling relationship to date was with a girl who was born in China and came to this country when she was 14. Smartest girl I've ever met to this day. She caused me to grow like nobody else has and holds a special place in my heart, even if things ultimately didn't work out. But some of my very conservative relatives, who I love dearly, never knew of her existence because I knew they would make things difficult. Either say racist chit to her, to talk behind our back. I think the fetishization a lot of progressive have for black people is ridiculous, but the opposite mentality is idiotic as well.
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02-19-2021, 01:46 PM
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Not much problem with the polices, but they talk a big game and then cave as soon as the media puts a little heat on them...
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02-19-2021, 01:50 PM
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not a conservative value IMO, but republicans have chosen profits and isolation > society and cohesion and it's given the left the power to take over the culture
you can only go and hide in the suburbs and count your money for so long
you can only go and hide in the suburbs and count your money for so long
02-19-2021, 01:57 PM
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Abortion
Gerrymandering black folk
Morality crusading hypocrites
Flag burning
Gay marriage
pretty much any issue where the govt or self appointed authority figures meddle in law abiding peoples lives
Gerrymandering black folk
Morality crusading hypocrites
Flag burning
Gay marriage
pretty much any issue where the govt or self appointed authority figures meddle in law abiding peoples lives
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02-19-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Conservatives hate illegal immigration because while Reagan legalized many illegals through amnesty. They mostly vote democrat as seen in California. Now the right sees minorities as anti white.I believe Republicans failed hard when given the opportunity to address immigration reform and it sucks that Biden will get something done, but it will ultimately fail anyway. There needs to be more understanding of why people want to come to the US and less hatred. But we also need liberals to get their heads out of their asses and realize that there are many people who come here with ill purpose.
If democrats abandoned their anti-gun rhetoric and pro open borders rhetoric, I would seriously consider voting democrat.
Nobody understands the liberal (because they lie). First they say illegals are good for our economy, we will let then come in. Then when Trump wants to dump all convicted illegals in California, Newsom claims he doesn't want illegals in his state.
02-19-2021, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By cashinout⏩
Yea but the problem is that liberals don't know how to build more housing. Lol many problem in the city could be solved if people owned homes / condos.not a conservative value IMO, but republicans have chosen profits and isolation > society and cohesion and it's given the left the power to take over the culture
you can only go and hide in the suburbs and count your money for so long
you can only go and hide in the suburbs and count your money for so long
$0 mortgage or rent a month would lift everyone out of poverty.
Property tax and maintenance is so low it's irrelevant.
02-19-2021, 05:57 PM
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I don't like that they've decided they're God's spokesman in America and that they know what's best. I think the rest of their failures stem from this.
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02-19-2021, 05:57 PM
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The GOP is mostly spineless *******s that would rather bend the knee the democrats than actually do what they were elected to do so.
As far as conservative values goes, getting even more hard line.
As far as conservative values goes, getting even more hard line.
02-19-2021, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
So would you say you support the police further now that they only arrest and fine conservatives and do nothing to arrest antifa. Or would you say you support defunding the police.The GOP is mostly spineless *******s that would rather bend the knee the democrats than actually do what they were elected to do so.
As far as conservative values goes, getting even more hard line.
As far as conservative values goes, getting even more hard line.
02-19-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Yeah, I meant to say this too.The GOP is mostly spineless *******s that would rather bend the knee the democrats than actually do what they were elected to do so.
As far as conservative values go, getting even more hard line.
As far as conservative values go, getting even more hard line.
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02-19-2021, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
I think conservatives who are against minimum wage, but support welfare / unemployment / medicare / social security are a special kind of retarded.I have no idea how "it's bad for the economy is we give all the money to a few guys at the top" turned into "sOsHuLiSm!"
One of you first things you learn in undergrad econ is that the goal of any economy is the optimum distribution of resources.
One of you first things you learn in undergrad econ is that the goal of any economy is the optimum distribution of resources.
The problem with liberals is they want to only tax the highest levels of income not thinking about the consequences of those actions. For example how do you take money away from businesses without pissing them off enough to raise prices?
02-19-2021, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Harbinger⏩
Same with you, what's your stance on the police then?Yeah, I meant to say this too.
02-19-2021, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Let's try a thought experiment. Let's say it was proven without a doubt that it was a choice. Would you hate gay people all of a sudden?I believe homosexuality is not a choice and people should stop acting like it is.
02-19-2021, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
I support the police, some of them are *******s, some of them are racist, some of them abuse their authority. The overwhelming majority of them are good guys doing a tough job.Same with you, what's your stance on the police then?
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02-19-2021, 07:06 PM
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The abortion issue, and the climate change issue. And could care less about homos, but will never accept the tranny ****.
More bottom feeders that get aborted, the better off society will be.
Also support euthanasia, and despise the Bible thumpers portion.
More bottom feeders that get aborted, the better off society will be.
Also support euthanasia, and despise the Bible thumpers portion.
02-19-2021, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
What exactly about the climate change issues piss you off?The abortion issue, and the climate change issue. And could care less about homos, but will never accept the tranny ****.
More bottom feeders that get aborted, the better off society will be.
Also support euthanasia, and despise the Bible thumpers portion.
More bottom feeders that get aborted, the better off society will be.
Also support euthanasia, and despise the Bible thumpers portion.
Is it that they don't want to subsidize renewable energy? That they aren't forcing people to use renewable energy? (Like how CA is banning sales of new gasoline powered vehicles... I think by 2050? And how all new homes are required to be built with solar panels)
Hypothetically if we all switched to electric vehicles, don't you think it would be a pain in the ass to recharge all of them? (You know having to sit for 8 hours in your car - imagine costco but infinitely worse)
Instead of abortion and the Republican party pushed forced sterilization for deadbeats would you support that as well?
The bible thumper portion is fine with me. The problem arises from the rednecks who think college is a scam.
BRB engineering, accounting, MD, law school all scams according to backwater rednecks.
There is a huge difference between a religious person living in suburbs who is a Dentist vs religious nutcase with mental problems who lives in the middle of nowhere who thinks you shouldn't dress improper, don't go to college, and you will be dating someone chosen by your parents.
People tend to confuse all religious people with the latter.
02-19-2021, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
I have a problem with politicians using the police as a gestapo force. Some places the police are used as a revenue generator for the state. You can rob a bank, as long as you don't speed in your get-away car you probably won't get caught. These places are usually liberal blue chitholes. Defunding the police isn't the answer anywhere unless you want to make the problem worse. A lot of these mistakes are caused by police that lack training and/or support and resources to do their job correctly. As far as the arrests at protest are concerned, there is a lot of monkey business on both sides.So would you say you support the police further now that they only arrest and fine conservatives and do nothing to arrest antifa. Or would you say you support defunding the police.
EDIT/ADD: Conservatives are generally anti-government and with that, not exactly pro-law enforecment. Generally we want to keep government out of our lives. It seems to me that every liberal I've ever known believes that people need to be told what to do and how to live their lives, In fact, law enforcement in a lot of really conservative places is kind of a way of keeping things civil. Kind of like door locks, they are for your protection, not ours. We will deal with the problem, and hogs eat everything.
Where I live, we don't even have police. We have a Sheriff's department. There is a huge difference in how that works. We ELECT our Sheriff, who then has his deputies. Police work for the Mayor.
02-19-2021, 08:29 PM
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I think the GOP could be more flexible on certain things like marijuana and better communications about alternative energy to build infrastructure for EVs while maintaining safe fossil fuels and have no issues with the LGBTQ community, maintain lower taxes across the board, then the GOP would be hard to beat.
What I am saying is that even if you don’t fully support a policy, that is the opportunity cost to get most of what you want.
What I am saying is that even if you don’t fully support a policy, that is the opportunity cost to get most of what you want.
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02-19-2021, 09:07 PM
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I actually like that the trump wing of the republican party is ascending. The status quo is filled with boomers that are just as neoliberal as dems but with tax cuts. It would be nice to see mcconnel and his brand of republicanism go away. The lolbertarians are the worst of the worst. I'll go door to door for neolib biden if it meant lolbertarians had no influence at all moving forward.
Also, weed should be permanently banned with potheads getting extensive prison sentences. It literally is a gateway drug like we all heard about in our childhoods. Plus potheads are scum and untrustworthy.
Also, weed should be permanently banned with potheads getting extensive prison sentences. It literally is a gateway drug like we all heard about in our childhoods. Plus potheads are scum and untrustworthy.
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02-19-2021, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩
I wonder why we can't have nuclear energy in an empty state like Wyoming, New Mexico, or Arizona to power the whole country.I think the GOP could be more flexible on certain things like marijuana and better communications about alternative energy to build infrastructure for EVs while maintaining safe fossil fuels and have no issues with the LGBTQ community, maintain lower taxes across the board, then the GOP would be hard to beat.
What I am saying is that even if you don’t fully support a policy, that is the opportunity cost to get most of what you want.
What I am saying is that even if you don’t fully support a policy, that is the opportunity cost to get most of what you want.
02-19-2021, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Good observation. I wonder as well.I wonder why we can't have nuclear energy in an empty state like Wyoming, New Mexico, or Arizona to power the whole country.
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02-20-2021, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
This is a pretty good list (not sure I 100% agree, but it's really good).They aren't conservative... at all. Off the top of my head:
- Trillion dollar wars in peasant countries that achieve nothing
- Socialism for wealthy and government class, rugged individualism for everyone else
- Money printers working overtime to give corporations and rich guys welfare (imagine telling Keynes or Friedman that the "conservatives" printed $9T out of thin air)
- Massive support for police which goes against personal freedom in 1000 different ways
- Gaping holes and market failures ignored in areas like energy and healthcare
- Regressive tax rates that crush the middle class
- They hold the door wide open for immigrants which artificially suppresses labor markets
- Sending all kinds of money overseas, despite being a country in decline
- Interfering with and then ignoring the hilariously bloated higher Education system, when we KNOW that's the only way to increase GDP in the long term
- Allowing countries like China to have huge leverage over us by moving our entire manufacturing capacity there
- Allowing religious interests to corrupt the party
- Sabotaging the economy while keeping plebs distracted with social issues
ALL of these things are the literal opposite of conservative.
- Trillion dollar wars in peasant countries that achieve nothing
- Socialism for wealthy and government class, rugged individualism for everyone else
- Money printers working overtime to give corporations and rich guys welfare (imagine telling Keynes or Friedman that the "conservatives" printed $9T out of thin air)
- Massive support for police which goes against personal freedom in 1000 different ways
- Gaping holes and market failures ignored in areas like energy and healthcare
- Regressive tax rates that crush the middle class
- They hold the door wide open for immigrants which artificially suppresses labor markets
- Sending all kinds of money overseas, despite being a country in decline
- Interfering with and then ignoring the hilariously bloated higher Education system, when we KNOW that's the only way to increase GDP in the long term
- Allowing countries like China to have huge leverage over us by moving our entire manufacturing capacity there
- Allowing religious interests to corrupt the party
- Sabotaging the economy while keeping plebs distracted with social issues
ALL of these things are the literal opposite of conservative.
One other thing that comes to mind is the strong Pro life stance. As I've said many times - I'm certainly not a fan of the act itself, but from a practical perspective there are already way too many mouth breathing losers irresponsibly breeding (and being drains on the system and/or creating future criminals), why the hell do we want to exasperate that by making abortion illegal?
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